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Apple_Robert

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I went to store buy new apple watch. I usually wear sport loop or woven nylon bands. Don't like sport bands. Decided to try braided solo loop. At store they one time use measuring kits, and my measurement was almost 10. They brought size 10 and 9 bands to try. Size 10 was bit loose and 9 nine was perfect, but little tighter. Decided to to buy size 9. After few hours of wearing it I have to say I made right choice. So in my case going with 1 size smaller was right decision. Based on some other replies, it looks that other experienced same. So it might be good ideas to go one size smaller then actual measurement using apple tool. On other hand, it is most comfortable band I ever had. Only negative thing that I can say about it is price. It is highway robbery at $100.
If you feel it was highway robbery, you shouldn’t have bought it. Griping after the fact renders your point rather meaningless, seeing how the item is an accessory you wanted and didn’t need.
 

ahendarman

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I just picked up a Space Gray Aluminum with Black Solo loop. The measurement showed that my wrist is in the middle of size 8. It was however, way to big, when I get it. I think I should've been size 7 if not 6.

Problem is I can't return/exchange just the band. Since it's a kit, I need to return the watch as well and the watch now is sold out until early October. Not happy ...
 
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Sinochick

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I went to store buy new apple watch. I usually wear sport loop or woven nylon bands. Don't like sport bands. Decided to try braided solo loop. At store they one time use measuring kits, and my measurement was almost 10. They brought size 10 and 9 bands to try. Size 10 was bit loose and 9 nine was perfect. Decided to to buy size 9. After few hours of wearing it I have to say I made right choice. So in my case going with 1 size smaller was right decision. Based on some other replies, it looks that other experienced same. So it might be good ideas to go one size smaller then actual measurement using apple tool. And it looks that Apple store employees might be aware of the sizing issue, since she brought size that should fit based on measurement and another one that was size zmaller On other hand, it is most comfortable band I ever had. Only negative thing that I can say about it is price. It is highway robbery at $100.

I did the exact same thing as you (went to Apple Store - measured my wrist - tried the size 9 and 8 braided). My AW6 came with the size 7 black solo loop which was too tight so I actually exchanged it for size 9 solo loop. I tried both the size 8 and 9 solo loop and the 9 felt like a perfect fit. I tried the 8 and 9 for the braided loop and while both fit pretty well, I did sense that the 8 was just snug enough. However, given that the size 9 for solo loop was best fit for me I decided to get the size 9 for the braided loop as well. I've worn my braided loop strap all day and I notice the watch slipping slightly down my wrist over the course of the day (this usually occurs after washing my hands....It seems my wet hand/wrist area causes the braided loop to loosen a bit).

I'm debating whether I want to go back to the Apple Store to swap the braided loop size 9 to an 8 (while keeping the size 9 solo loop since that just fits like a glove).

Is it weird that on my wrists the braided loop seems better one size down compared to the solo loop?
 
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Sinochick

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I just picked up a Space Gray Aluminum with Black Solo loop. The measurement showed that my wrist is in the middle of size 8. It was however, way to big, when I get it. I think I should've been size 7 if not 6.

Problem is I can't return/exchange just the band. Since it's a kit, I need to return the watch as well and the watch now is sold out until early October. Not happy ...

I bought the space grey aluminum AW6 with size 7 black solo loop and I was able to go to the Apple Store to swap the solo loop band only to a 9 (I was actually between an 8 and 9). If you can get to an Apple store you won't need to return the watch.
 
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Apple_Robert

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Sep 21, 2012
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In the middle of several books.
I just picked up a Space Gray Aluminum with Black Solo loop. The measurement showed that my wrist is in the middle of size 8. It was however, way to big, when I get it. I think I should've been size 7 if not 6.

Problem is I can't return/exchange just the band. Since it's a kit, I need to return the watch as well and the watch now is sold out until early October. Not happy ...
Buy the band you want separately and sell the one that came with the watch.
 

kawalerzysta

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If you feel it was highway robbery, you shouldn’t have bought it. Griping after the fact renders your point rather meaningless, seeing how the item is an accessory you wanted and didn’t need.
Since when we cannot complain about prices?. When I was buying it I knew that the band is overpriced for what it is. And you should have noticed that I have listed pros and cons, with pros being ultra comfortable for me and con it being too expensive for what it is. I think it is valid gripe.
 

Apple_Robert

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Sep 21, 2012
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In the middle of several books.
Since when we cannot complain about prices?. When I was buying it I knew that the band is overpriced for what it is. And you should have noticed that I have listed pros and cons, with pros being ultra comfortable for me and con it being too expensive for what it is. I think it is valid gripe.
The time to gripe is before you buy. If you hate the price that much, you shouldn’t have bought it. You didn’t have to buy the band. You bought it because you wanted it even paying $100 for it. Your argument about price was rendered moot as soon as you made the unnecessary purchase out of want. That is the ugly truth.
 
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twanj

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The time to gripe is before you buy. If you hate the price that much, you shouldn’t have bought it. You didn’t have to buy the band. You bought it because you wanted it even paying $100 for it. Your argument about price was rendered moot as soon as you made the unnecessary purchase out of want. That is the ugly truth.

I hear you, but after you buy you know what you've gotten.

It's a more informed gripe! :)

Anything is fair game.

Exorbitant pricing, double the loops which are already crazy markup.

(Not saying I'm not getting one tomorrow if they have em in store :)
 

GrumpyMom

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The time to gripe is before you buy. If you hate the price that much, you shouldn’t have bought it. You didn’t have to buy the band. You bought it because you wanted it even paying $100 for it. Your argument about price was rendered moot as soon as you made the unnecessary purchase out of want. That is the ugly truth.
I’d personally like to hear the griping of someone who actually has had it or handled it at the store and can fairly assess if the materials and construction and feel are worth what the price. Someone who actually shelled out for the product has the best basis to judge whether or not they felt they got their money’s worth. It’s often hard to know the value of something until you’ve had the experience of it.

However, what’s missing from the equation currently is how well knockoffs would compare to the Apple brand.

$99 IS too damned much for a glorified hair scrunchie. But until we get knockoffs to compare it to, it’s hard to just dismiss it as a glorified scrunchie. Once you see the cheap and easy option and see just how craptastic these other options can be, if you really like this style band, then maybe $99 will seem worth it.

That’s been my situation with Apple Sport bands, especially the Nike styled ones.

That’s a case where most people think Apple sports bands are too expensive and a knockoff is completely comparable. I have experience owning both and so I have reason to think the Apple choice is worth it after all, given my specific issue of being very sensitive and intolerant of the toxic smell of plasticizer in the knockoffs and hating their sticky squishy feel.

I’m a little worried that even the Apple name and quality may fail me when it comes to the solo loop. Stretchy silicone is almost always stinky and squishy from what I can tell.
 

wilberforce

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I just picked up a Space Gray Aluminum with Black Solo loop. The measurement showed that my wrist is in the middle of size 8. It was however, way to big, when I get it. I think I should've been size 7 if not 6.

Problem is I can't return/exchange just the band. Since it's a kit, I need to return the watch as well and the watch now is sold out until early October. Not happy ...

You can actually exchange the band (that came with the watch) at the Apple store. I did exactly this. On paper they have to "return" the entire watch plus band, but I walked out with the exact same watch I bought, plus a different band, for no extra charge.
 
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Senseotech

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You can actually exchange the band (that came with the watch) at the Apple store. I did exactly this. On paper they have to "return" the entire watch plus band, but I walked out with the exact same watch I bought, plus a different band, for no extra charge.

This is super unfortunate for those of us in locations with closed stores; I just checked and the nearest store thats actually open is roughly a 4 hour drive one-way. Its even more frustrating since Apple's own measurement print-out seems to be flat out wrong; I ordered my watch with a size 10 Inverness Green braided solo as that's what the printout said, then my wife ordered a standalone Pink Punch braided solo in size 9 based off the print out. Her band arrives and turns out the size 9 is a little loose on me and just slides all over her wrist, so we kicked off a return on the pink band and now I'm just waiting for my watch to arrive with the wrong size.
 
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HazyCloud

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This is super unfortunate for those of us in locations with closed stores; I just checked and the nearest store thats actually open is roughly a 4 hour drive one-way. Its even more frustrating since Apple's own measurement print-out seems to be flat out wrong; I ordered my watch with a size 10 Inverness Green braided solo as that's what the printout said, then my wife ordered a standalone Pink Punch braided solo in size 9 based off the print out. Her band arrives and turns out the size 9 is a little loose on me and just slides all over her wrist, so we kicked off a return on the pink band and now I'm just waiting for my watch to arrive with the wrong size.

Ugh. I know the feeling. I'm sitting here waiting for UPS to drop off mine with the wrong size. None of my stores are open either so I guess I'll be selling my Braided Charcoal Loop. I'll attempt to return it via chat, but I don't have high hopes.

What bothers me the most is that we all printed out the instructions, followed them, only to discover the size Apple told us is actually wrong. If we don't have an open store close, we're probably screwed. (Yes, you can return the whole thing, but what a pain and wait.) This doesn't sit well with me at all and I've only purchased 2 Solo loops (Sport and Braided). I can't imagine if someone ordered quite a few colors in what they thought was the right size. Now they're mostly sold out until November.

Speaking of which, has anyone used Apple's guidelines and it was actually the right size for them? I don't think I've seen any posts.
 
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puckhead193

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I ordered a 9 and it was way to big... went to the apple store to exchange it for an 8. Lucky it was an easy swap and they had it. I got home and tried it on my S4... still find it too big....
tempted to go back and just get a normal sport band.
 

Senseotech

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Nov 23, 2009
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I ordered a 9 and it was way to big... went to the apple store to exchange it for an 8. Lucky it was an easy swap and they had it. I got home and tried it on my S4... still find it too big....
tempted to go back and just get a normal sport band.
From what I've been seeing across the web, the consensus seems to be that its roughly 2 sizes off; e.g. if you measure at a 9, you probably need a 7, which makes the mis-sizing even more noticeable than if it was just a single one off.
 

twanj

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My findings from going into my only local Apple store that's open (Boca Raton :( )

Braided & reg solo loop are comfy! They were all out of the middle numbers.

- I'm apparently a size 8. I measured my wrist last week & it was 7 inches. I thought the chart said I was around there but forget? I use pin 4 on M/L 44mm usually. Or pin 3 (looser, when I want it loose).

- the Braided loop doesn't look great around the connectors but I think some of the pics are of 40mm braided solo loops on 44mm watches. the employee didn't seem to be too knowledgable about bands and was handing me wrong size stuff at first.

- the Apple employee didn't know there was a size guide online. she also didn't know the size numbers were on the band. on the solo loops they're on the back. on the braided they're on the lugs with the 40/44mm markings.

- I asked if the braided loops will get looser over time & she said no, if anything they'll get tighter??
 

Renho

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Sep 15, 2014
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I did the sizing online, it said i needed a 10.pre ordered online and got a 10. it just got delivered today. the oxygen reader kept not working saying too loose. it felt kinda loose but not to bad. i went into the apple store today and tried on a 9. much better fit. So i wanted to return the 10 for a 9. They said i can not exchange or return just the band. i would have to return the watch and band. they issue me a refund, then i have to buy another watch and band just to get the band in my right size. so basically i take another $580.00 hit for 2-3 days before the refund gets put back on. I think that is BS that i have to be without $580 for 3 days just to get a different size band when THEIR sizing was wrong. I get that this is a new product so they dont have an exchange program in place but really, the bands are packaged seperate and you sell the bands separate as well. I have a feeling all the pre orders or online orders who didnt go in to get sizing will be in trouble...... So not happy about this part.

If you havent purchased yet go on and try on if you can, if not. whatever band it says to get, get one size smaller.
 
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twanj

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so basically i take another $580.00 hit for 2-3 days before the refund gets put back on. I think that is BS that i have to be without $580 for 3 days just to get a different size band when THEIR sizing was wrong. I get that this is a new product so they dont have an exchange program in place but really, the bands are packaged seperate and you sell the bands separate as well. I have a feeling all the pre orders or online orders who didnt go in to get sizing will be in trouble...... So not happy about this part.

If you havent purchased yet go on and try on if you can, if not. whatever band it says to get, get one size smaller.

yes, that is BS! sloppy!

if I was in this situation, I'd be pissed.

the watch and the band should be 2 separate transactions.

they need to fix the sizing.

and/or THEY SHOULD GIVE A WARNING NOT TO PICK ONE OF THESE NEW BANDS WITH A WATCH.
 

professor peach

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Posting the above as it may help some people...

Just received my "44mm Charcoal Braided Solo Loop" in size 12 and it seems like a very comfortable fit to me.

The photo's are in the following order:

Cut-Out Template (As tight as it would go)
Cut-Out Template (Comfortable Fit)
Template from Apple Store (As tight as it would go)
Template from Apple Store (Comfortable Fit)
Photo showing my Index finger between the loop and my wrist
 

twanj

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Wow, looks like there's a much longer thread (in the wrong place) :)

 

artfossil

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- the Braided loop doesn't look great around the connectors but I think some of the pics are of 40mm braided solo loops on 44mm watches. the employee didn't seem to be too knowledgable about bands and was handing me wrong size stuff at first.
I bought, received and returned the braided loop so I can confirm both that I definitely had a 44mm band on a 44mm Watch and that the transition to the Watch on my braided loop was terrible. Here's a composite of Apple's rendering vs a detail of another userss Watch (much better than my crappy photo). Not the gap on the ends of the user's Watch where the braided loop lug is not long enough. (The user photo also shows the metal lug showing which is another issue).

The materials and fit were terrific but I couldn't live with the gap.

braidcomposite.png
 
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Renho

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yes, that is BS! sloppy!

if I was in this situation, I'd be pissed.

the watch and the band should be 2 separate transactions.

they need to fix the sizing.

and/or THEY SHOULD GIVE A WARNING NOT TO PICK ONE OF THESE NEW BANDS WITH A WATCH.

ya so mad. So what i ended up doing is ordering a 9.($50) then I am going to put the 10 in the 9 box and return it! Ha, they will not get me in the end..haha
 

PurBle

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I bought, received and returned the braided loop so I can confirm both that I definitely had a 44mm band on a 44mm Watch and that the transition to the Watch on my braided loop was terrible. Here's a composite of Apple's rendering vs a detail of another userss Watch (much better than my crappy photo). Not the gap on the ends of the user's Watch where the braided loop lug is not long enough. (The user photo also shows the metal lug showing which is another issue).

The materials and fit were terrific but I couldn't live with the gap.

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Maybe it’s just me but I think I could live with that gap. It doesn’t look that bad to me.
 

artfossil

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Maybe it’s just me but I think I could live with that gap. It doesn’t look that bad to me.
That's great if you can! The material is wonderful and it's very comfortable. But I found it ugly--especially on my aluminum Watch. I expect better build quality than this from Apple.
 
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DotCom2

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I bought, received and returned the braided loop so I can confirm both that I definitely had a 44mm band on a 44mm Watch and that the transition to the Watch on my braided loop was terrible. Here's a composite of Apple's rendering vs a detail of another userss Watch (much better than my crappy photo). Not the gap on the ends of the user's Watch where the braided loop lug is not long enough. (The user photo also shows the metal lug showing which is another issue).

The materials and fit were terrific but I couldn't live with the gap.

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Being an OCD person, I could never live with that.
 
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