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I'm gonna withhold criticism until I've had a chance to see the new series. So far, the franchise has gone down hill after DS9. TOS, TNG and DS9 = with the exception of a few garbage episode like Shades of Grayo_O very little complain about. I liked DS9 the best.

Voyager and Enterprise = meh. Too much focus on geewhiz gadgetry and not enough meaty plot for my taste.
 
I wonder how long it will take to show up on free/network tv?
I can't see myself paying for another streaming service just for one show.
 
I'm gonna withhold criticism until I've had a chance to see the new series. So far, the franchise has gone down hill after DS9. TOS, TNG and DS9 = with the exception of a few garbage episode like Shades of Grayo_O very little complain about. I liked DS9 the best.

Voyager and Enterprise = meh. Too much focus on geewhiz gadgetry and not enough meaty plot for my taste.
Enterprise was too focused on T&A for most of its run to tell a coherent story.
 
I'm gonna withhold criticism until I've had a chance to see the new series. So far, the franchise has gone down hill after DS9. TOS, TNG and DS9 = with the exception of a few garbage episode like Shades of Grayo_O very little complain about. I liked DS9 the best.

Voyager and Enterprise = meh. Too much focus on geewhiz gadgetry and not enough meaty plot for my taste.

While - in general - I welcome a return to the Star Trek universe - and think the new re-booted movies excellent, I have to share your concerns.

Moreover, I agree that TOS, STNG and DS9 were - in general - excellent. As a woman - and as a woman interested in science and as someone who wants to see far more representations of successful, professional women on screen, I liked the premise of a female commander for Voyager, but felt the series as a whole lacked the depth of some of the others.

Enterprise was bloody awful; or rather, I stopped watching it after the first series, it wasn't ensemble acting or playing, - which had a been a strength of both STNG and of DS9 - and the characters were clichéd cardboard cut-outs, the plots weak, and the dialogue risible.

However, I'll wait and reserve judgement until after the new series debuts. Candidly, I'd love to see an excellent, meaty, and intelligent series.
 
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I wonder how long it will take to show up on free/network tv?
I can't see myself paying for another streaming service just for one show.

I'm not pleased by it being on a paid streaming service either. That said, I will probably sign up for a month or two, watch the show and then cancel my subscription.
 
I'm not pleased by it being on a paid streaming service either. That said, I will probably sign up for a month or two, watch the show and then cancel my subscription.

Well, I assume that it will materialise in Europe sooner or later, possibly half a year, or a season in arrears. Needless to say, those subscription channels are ones I have never heard of.
 
Considering the way the franchise has been evolving, I won't get my hopes up.

Surely, you mean de-evolving, as demonstrated in that wonderful STNG episode where the crew reverted to various more primitive life forms? (I have a distinct memory of an amphibian Worf, who appeared to have been quite a terrifying creature…)
 
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It has been evolving to fill a very specific niche: an ever expanding consumer base.

Ah, yes.

Economics, rather than science, and populist blandness over creative, original, thought-provoking content, strong characters who exhibit actual character development, interesting plots, intriguing settings, and complex world building, good (ensemble) actors, ensemble playing, (a decent budget, because, while I'm the last person on the planet to surrender to the notion that special effects from insanity should supersede stuff such as plot, - and plot should never be sacrificed to special effects - a scifi world does need a sufficiency of special effects that are not…..risible) and intelligent scripts…...
 
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I'm gonna withhold criticism until I've had a chance to see the new series. So far, the franchise has gone down hill after DS9. TOS, TNG and DS9 = with the exception of a few garbage episode like Shades of Grayo_O very little complain about. I liked DS9 the best.

Voyager and Enterprise = meh. Too much focus on geewhiz gadgetry and not enough meaty plot for my taste.

If they remove the big budget, and thus lens flare galore, then what is left? The new Trek movies are shiny, but not really Star Trek...

I agree absolutely with the above comments. The new movies, to me, were just typical hollywood action movies set in space. They weren't good sci-fi, and definitely didnt feel like star trek.

If the new show is going to be some generic action show in space, then i'd rather it not exist than dilute the star trek universe with mediocrity.

But I'll keep my hopes up and will definitely watch it, in the off chance that the new team can rival the likes of Ira Behr and Ronald D Moore.
 
Looks interesting, but I won't sign up fora other streaming service I'm sticking withy Netflix, and possibly Amazon Prime if I decide that the other parts of it are worth the subscription.
 
I hope it's set in the Star Trek Prime universe - while I liked the reboot movies (first more than the second) I couldn't get into some of the changes.
 
I hope it's set in the Star Trek Prime universe - while I liked the reboot movies (first more than the second) I couldn't get into some of the changes.
Since CBS (Then Paramount) owns the rights to the franchise I assume it will follow the TV version.
 
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