This sounds to me as a controlled leak, seems someone f***ed up in yesterday's press release and because they can't say openly about working on a new display we got this tweet (to wait and not buy other third party monitors as they suggested...)
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New Thunderbolt Display With Integrated GPU Still in the Works
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Like the MXM cards in the original 24" iMacs? We sure got a lot of upgrades for those....
Probably best if they lay off everyone except their lawyers and move into the patent troll business.
I'm just venting because of the lack of updated MBPs. :-(
Is it really a lapse period, or simply one of those transitional "Apple about to release a NEXT generation model, so no more taking orders or shipping out any existing (soon-to-be-outdated) model….. cuz Apple don't wanna piss off too many customers who are still ignorantly buying old model only to find out that NEXT-GEN model is announced 1 day after they buy outdated model."
The above happens every time, doesn't it?
It does sound convoluted, but one of the reasons Apple goes with mobile discrete GPUs in their machines is heat. A 27" iMac 5K chassis that didn't need to also dissipate the scores of watts from a CPU could dedicate that thermal energy to a more powerful GPU that runs hotter. And considering the Polaris GPUs in general will run cooler, Apple could conceivably put in a GPU powerful enough to keep Oculus and gamers happy (well, at least happier) and provide more of a realistic usable lifespan.
Clearly you're not a gamer, or someone who needs fast render times to deliver on a tight deadline production project. In other words, the average Mac user.
I'd rather they just allow eGPU platforms. Tying a GPU to a display makes no sense.
Please link me to a 27" monitor with built in TB ports, USB ports, an ethernet port, and built in speakers and iSight type video camera. It does not exist that I have ever seen.
I agree the TBD needs to be updated and it is priced a bit high, but all these comments about how you can get the same monitor for half the price leave out all the features of the TBD I just mentioned and are not really valid comparisons.
As a 27" iMac 5K owner, I would not be interested in having a second 27" display that was only 4K - I would want it to also be 5K. I imagine I am not alone in that belief.
Now if Apple decides to replace a 21" 4K display along with a 27" 5K display, that would be nice.
Actually I stand corrected, and the original article should've made it a little more clear. 5K actually can be supported over a single cable now, but only through DisplayPort 1.3, and it would have to be through a discrete GPU, not integrated. So a new 5K display housing a discrete GPU could do that.
The problem lies with Apple's (current) reliance on Intel's Thunderbolt to push DisplayPort signals. But for whatever reason, Intel has lagged in its adoption of DP 1.3 for Thunderbolt, so TB3 only supports DP 1.2, which is a no-go for single cable 5K.
There may be a way forward though, and that's USB3.1-Type C, which does send DP 1.3 via its Alternate Mode. As such, we might see Apple move from TB to USB for pushing DP signals. Rumor has it that the new MBPs are going all Type C, which would allow MBPs to send to a 5K display with Type C ports using DP.
Okay that guy is clearly just blowing hot air. The press note specifically said they are done with it and suggested other avenues. At this point as much as I wish it was true if you believe this rumor, you are in the first stage of grief: denial.
No it does, but they never announce a discontinuation. They just don't feed the supply chain anymore. Thats why its odd.
This move would line up perfectly with Apple's goals. Despite the constant flak it has received over the years, Apple has reliably made its devices thinner and more power efficient. Moving the GPU to the monitor is an easy win in both regards. This is what will allow a new rMBP form factor.
I think that if they're going to release a device that combines a monitor, a graphics card, speakers, microphone, Thunderbolt ports, and USB ports, they really ought to just go ahead and put the rest of the iMac into the case as well...
Why would you want this and an updated Mac Pro? The instant you hook a Mac Pro to this, the vast majority of it's value (the graphics cards) are now out of the picture.
It makes no sense to buy a computer with a powerful GPU, then a monitor that can only use its own internal GPU.
It makes no sense to buy a computer with a powerful GPU, then a monitor that can only use its own internal GPU.
I'd hope they include compatibility for not only USB-C but also Thunderbolt 1/2 so that existing users can use it as well.
Mac Pro discontinuation would explain why they haven't updated it in so long.
I believe Thunderbolt 3 is backwards compatible with 1/2, though some sort of adapter will probably be required.
$1700 might make sense if it contains a high end desktop GPU, like a GeForce 1080. the price on that alone is currently 599.99. a 27" 5k display could easily go for up to $1,000. so if this is the sort of combination it comes with, than $1500 wouldn't be unreasonable.
You can't easily compare this to the iMacs. Not a single iMac uses a high end GPU. Most of the iMacs use intel integrated GPU which is "cheap" component as it is already part of the CPU.
Even in most desktop computers, especially gaming desktops, the GPU is the #1 expenditure that could easily drive the price of a display up if it were included.
I highly doubt this is true. Killing the line prior to a replacement and Apple reps telling users to go third party isn't a strong indicator of an upcoming replacement.
I don't know how much belief I would pour into this dude's "speculation".
1) If it were true, it means a pretty big misstep and unfortunate PR blunder for Apple. I mean they literally told you to go across the street and buy monitors.
2) If true, and they actually have intentions of releasing products in the fall (or later in 2016) there is little to no reason to announce EOL on the ATD without having a product launch ready for it's replacement. I don't think people were blinking wondering why the stock was getting short in retail stores...It could have stayed available online until EOL. They handled it much better in the past: https://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/2...ontinues-30-inch-and-24-inch-cinema-displays/.
2010 marked the end of the a long run for 30" and a short run for 24" when they were replaced by the 27" LED ACD. "At the same time, this marks the end of the road for the 24-inch and 30-inch Apple displays. According to Apple vice president of hardware marketing David Moody, those products will continue to be sold until supplies run out, at which point the new 27-inch display will be Apple's only standalone offering."
That is a very different tone then what they delivered yesterday. Time will tell...
1) If it were true, it means a pretty big misstep and unfortunate PR blunder for Apple. I mean they literally told you to go across the street and buy monitors.
2) If true, and they actually have intentions of releasing products in the fall (or later in 2016) there is little to no reason to announce EOL on the ATD without having a product launch ready for it's replacement. I don't think people were blinking wondering why the stock was getting short in retail stores...It could have stayed available online until EOL. They handled it much better in the past: https://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/2...ontinues-30-inch-and-24-inch-cinema-displays/.
2010 marked the end of the a long run for 30" and a short run for 24" when they were replaced by the 27" LED ACD. "At the same time, this marks the end of the road for the 24-inch and 30-inch Apple displays. According to Apple vice president of hardware marketing David Moody, those products will continue to be sold until supplies run out, at which point the new 27-inch display will be Apple's only standalone offering."
That is a very different tone then what they delivered yesterday. Time will tell...
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