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No thiner "Powerbook", more performance... please!!!

There is "Power" standing in the name... give me the power!!!

 
Xactly

This may seem wierd but...indeed, we may see a slightly thicker powerbook g5. INVESTING in a Ti g4 now is dumb since a revision 2 is due out in the next 3-4 months.
 
The new PowerBook will probably have a 600mhz G4, maybe 667. They PB uses the 7410 G4, thus the speeds aren't as high but the power consumption is lower than the desktop G4s. Apple doesn't support USB 2.0, that would be illogical for it to have any ports of that kind. They would have most likely put any knew interfaces in the Quicksilver G4s anyways, if they were going to do that. Besides, Firewire will jump to 800mbs soon enough, much faster than USB 2.0's 450 or 420, I forget what exactly it is. I feel Firewire has a brighter future for high speed than USB 2.0 does. USB is great for gaming pads, mice, etc, but for DV and other high speed transfer devices, Firewire is the future. Apple and Microsoft both fully support it, but neither independently support USB 2.0 and probably won't anytime soon.

I could be way off on a lot of this stuff, but so could all of you, keep that in mind :)
 
I would love to see a 600 or 700 MHz CPU in the titanium, but what I really would like to see is a much better graphics processor. I want to run the upcoming Doom 3 and the minimum requirements for that are a GeForce2 or a Radeon.

Personally I don't do much video editing except school projects and the like, so I don't really care about a much larger hard drive. I have trouble filling up 20 gigs. But big numbers are always appreciated.

I can wait until July 02 for a revision to the Titanium, or even a new PowerBook. So what do people think the system's going to look like in July?

By the way, and this is COMPLETELY unrelated: go see Apocalypse Now Redux.
 
Originally posted by Curiousstrngmint

I can wait until July 02 for a revision to the Titanium, or even a new PowerBook. So what do people think the system's going to look like in July?

You won't have to wait that long...I'd say there's a 90% chance the PowerBook gets a revision in September -- albeit not a major one. You won't see any new chassis or anything like that in September -- speed bump maybe. The current model is due, first and foremost, for a new graphics board, followed by a processor upgrade...

I'd be shocked if you don't see an NVIDIA card in the September model. And disappointed, too, given that that's when I plan on upgrading from my Pismo.
 
The next rev to the PBG4 will probably have a GeForce2GO or a Radeon MObility, leaning towards the first.
This is just my input, but if you want to run an upcoming game from id, which will most likely use the latest in 3D techniques(That's Carmack fer ya), get a Desktop. A Dual 800 G4 will probably run Doom 3 without a single hitch :)
There will be a major revision to the current Powerbook G4 most likely in September. And as for waiting until next July, it is almost impossible to predict what will happen to the PB by then. That is 11 months away, a lot can happen in that time.
 
Originally posted by JoyBoy

There will be a major revision to the current Powerbook G4 most likely in September.

This might be a bit premature....remember the Pismo last September? A dippy hard drive upgrade....
 
About 6 months seems to be the pattern though, but of course it's Apple and they aren't ones for patterns. When I said major I didn't necessarily mean totally new Powerbook or anything, more of an internal update. Like graphics chip, processer speed, updated I/O bus that the iBook has, combo drive. If all of those come true, that's a rather substantial update. A new graphics chipset alone is major, major over the weak Rage 128.
 
I'll be surprised with no combo drive. The free CD-RW firewire drive offer expires about the time an update would come. The iBook has it, it only seems logical for the next revision PB to have one.
 
Dvd, CD RW good

Combo is a good idea. The ibook's have it. I would lke to see some CDRw's too.
Sorry, I didn't make that very clear.

[Edited by MrMacman on 08-13-2001 at 09:23 PM]
 
Re: Dvd, CD RW good

Originally posted by MrMacman
Combo is okay. I'm not sure that a combo is a good idea.

1) The question isn't whether it is a "good idea" or not...the question is whether it is likely. The fact that the promo expires makes it likely...that fact is also why I sort of expected the TiBook to remain stagnant at MWNY, and as we all saw, it did.

2) Why on earth WOULDN'T it be a good idea? You can talk all you like about the virtues of your iMac, but as a PowerBook user, I have to say that it SUCKS to wag around a burner with me. I'll be glad when I can consolidate. Sure, you have to take time to copy one CD to disk image format on the HD....but whoop-de-doo.
 
Do you agree...

Do you people agree that the most important update the titanium can have is a 3d graphics accelerator card like Go or mobility built into it. Then it will become a good gaming machine. Otherwise I think it rips throuigh cd burning and the usual mac only cool stuff. So please hope for a upgrade in the graphics motherboard.
 
Thanks iboy

Another question people, is there like any rumor anywhere that has a proposed release date of Ti2? I am getting impatient. Its like, theres no hope in sight.
 
Re:`Thanks iboy

Originally posted by Kela
Another question people, is there like any rumor anywhere that has a proposed release date of Ti2? I am getting impatient. Its like, theres no hope in sight.

Paris...Sept 26 (I think)
 
I'm curious as to why a combo drive isn't a good idea?
Watch DVDs and Burn CDs on the go? What other alternative could you want?

I think I said this before, if you want to play games on a serious "gaming" machine, get a desktop.
 
Originally posted by JoyBoy

I think I said this before, if you want to play games on a serious "gaming" machine, get a desktop.

If the PowerBook gets a graphics card upgrade, this advice won't pack quite the punch it does now. Cross your fingers for a nice, new board with lots of VRAM....
 
About the powerbook not being a gaming machine:

Of course it's not. It's not supposed to be. It's supposed to be one inch "thin" and all that. Can you imagine lugging a G4 tower on board a plane? But while a laptop isn't meant primarily for games it would really be nice to have the option in case I want something else to do in the car or on the train.
 
New graphics chip

plus the iBook shares the same graphics processor as the TiG4... it would be nice to see them differentiate the TiRev2 by upping the graphics processor... I know as a Web Designer and casual gamer this would be a welcome addition.

I am about to venture into unfamiliar territory here so correct me if I?m wrong.... I am curious if the new nVidia & ATI cards are the same dimensions as the current ATI card in the TiG4... my thinking is this... if a new card can be placed in there without a major reworking of the internal architecture then we could see the rev in Sept., if it requires a major overhaul of the components then I would bet my money on a later date.
 
Originally posted by john123

If the PowerBook gets a graphics card upgrade, this advice won't pack quite the punch it does now. Cross your fingers for a nice, new board with lots of VRAM....


Actually, it will pack the same punch. I don't remember a Powerbook being able to upgrade it's graphics board. And to say a 600mhz 7410 or whatever it will be G4 can even come close to a dual 800 w/ GeForce3 doesn't go far.

I doubt the new ATI and nVidia boards are bigger, they're designed to be put in portables, besides Apple is the king of design, they always figure it out. I wouldn't worry too much.

[Edited by JoyBoy on 08-13-2001 at 09:19 PM]
 
Apple will have a Ti book have at Seybold. Seybold is for pro's and the Pro Graphic designers go to seybold. They will have them at Paris as a (major) release, cause it is apple's expo. Remember, Steve is at Paris while At Seybold the Vp is their. Steve will use the Digital phone from Paris.
 
Originally posted by JoyBoy
Originally posted by john123

If the PowerBook gets a graphics card upgrade, this advice won't pack quite the punch it does now. Cross your fingers for a nice, new board with lots of VRAM....


Actually, it will pack the same punch. I don't remember a Powerbook being able to upgrade it's graphics board. And to say a 600mhz 7410 or whatever it will be G4 can even come close to a dual 800 w/ GeForce3 doesn't go far.

[Edited by JoyBoy on 08-13-2001 at 09:19 PM]


Um...you're missing a few key elements:
1) For the upmteenth time, if you don't have things that are taking advantage of multiple processors (the game or the OS), then that "dual" doesn't help you nearly as much. With the growth of OS X, the playing field changes somewhat, but you aren't comparing like 1.6 Ghz here to 600 Mhz.

2) Games must be especially optimized for the GeForce3 to take advantage of much of its special stuff. Check out other threads here on that subject....
 
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