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Try OmniGraffle

I did quite a few years ago. Maybe I'll revisit, as I see they now have a version for iPad as well. Maybe I'll just scrap my VM/Visio and finally be able to get away from Windows 100%. Thanks.

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since i use omnigraffle - and everything i create using it looks 100x better than the same stuff done in visio - i hardly miss it. it even can import visio files.

Thanks! I'll have to revisist the Graffle.
 
Good question. But I can tell you the odds of me not subscribing to such a model are at 100% :D

For some of us, not all of us, the subscription model will be good. I have two desktops (one a Mini with Windows VM *just* so I can use Office for Windows), a laptop, and an iPad, so being able to have constantly updated Office (plus the online storage) working on all those is worth the annual fee. I will join Office 365 the day the new suite for Mac is available, even in beta form.

In fact, because I'll be able to stop using the VM when the new Office for Mac comes out, I'll be able to stop buying the VM software, so that alone will pay for at least half the Office 365 subscription.
 
What's with all the color? Looks like an XP app? I guess Apple has deranged my mind and I like gray's for my apps, but this is a bit too much color I think for anyone.
 
Regardless, it seems a weird to immediately accuse someone of lying.

LMAO. In terms of "Someone" at Microsoft who is not a direct member here I have the right to say if they are lying or not and it's ridiculous for you to defend them. People have called Steve Jobs "Hitler" and say all sorts of horrible things about Apple employees. That's more direct than me calling SOMEONE at Microsoft a liar. :rolleyes:
 
I love outlook for mac, having my mail and calendars together in one place is so much easier from an enterprise perspective
 
iCloud

Butteryscrollin,
Do you know if iCloud support is just email or also Caldav and Carddav for contacts and calendars?
Thanks,
Peter
 
ick ... Its worse than the ribbon currently on Windows version.

Show the Chinese screenshots...... I bet that will raise awareness :)
 
A quick word in your shell-like

Could they slap any more icons on the screen …

One moment please, sir. If you'd like to take a seat, I'll be right back with an answer.

… Yosemite-style …

Thank you for waiting. I'm realiably advised that yes, sir, they can.

… "simple, modern style," … "more intuitive"

Yes, so intuitive. For …

… support for Retina displays …

Even better, sir: more than forty. Fifty! Maybe fifty-five. An iconic fresh, new style of button with deep vibrant flat use of a specially-optimised version of a font that was originally optimised … sorry, sir. I should say designed for something other than a computer. Both more modern than, and older than, the norm. Completely Mac, sir. Completely!

Your young daughter's phone, there? Of course. I'll take that to be measured immediately. Make yourself comfortable, coffee and croissants are on their way.

The design is said to be more unified with both the Windows version of Office and the iPad version …

All done. I'm sorry that you had to wait a few minutes longer than the usual fifteen, but I think you'll be delighted with how the time was spent: Apple worked quickly with Microsoft to streamline the depth of unification across all devices, with special attention to the thinner, lighter, translucent hardware that the majority of customers might not have for years to come. But let me tell you, a majority of magazine articles will be positively swooning with pleasure at the prospect. Think of all that reading you can do whilst waiting for the intended products to reach market.

i wanna excel with transparency cells

By all means. Take a seat, please. My designer colleagues – Apple likes to call them 'dolleagues' – are in the next room, making it as we speak. All up as they go along.

I hope they include Handoff features between Mac and iPad.

Would that be standard handoff, through the cells and between the devices? Between you and me, sir, it might be better to wait until the smallest of the devices becomes available in a thinner edition. The depth gained through thinness (Apple likes to call this 'flatticity') will allow more diffuse shadows, through which the continuity can flow. Modern, porous data.

It looks... weird.

Oh, I am delighted. Always a pleasure to not only meet, but exceed the customer's brief. May I pass on your compliments to my dolleagues?

When I was a kid we had to use Outlook while we were walking to work uphill in three feet of snow with only some warm broth in our bellies. Oh my those were the days. Hopefully our children won't have to suffer as we once did.

Ah, a traditionalist. You and me both, sir! I will never forget when that first 1.5 mm was lasered off the depth of Hovis. All that pesky substance. How, HOW did we ever live with it? Our children, all our children, and our children's children and their flat-headed children (Apple will like to call them 'great-grand-flildren') are sure to have the most personal devices ever. In the world. Stars on 45 are staying alive, is all I can say.

I hope that this is real news. …

Absolutely. My dolleagues are rushing to complete the design now. And just as soon as they have done so, there'll be our coffee person to write the guidelines on how to design from start to finish from iPhone to ultraMac. One size fits all five sizes, that's the software that we like to give Apple customers, sir.

They're making the things while we speak, bless those dolleagues. Making it up, making it all up as they go along.

Looks as fugly as ever. Why does all Microsoft software have to look so bloated and ugly?

Ah, a latecomer! No problem at all. You're not too late for croissants. Over here please, and here's the answer that was given before your arrival –

… Yosemite-style …

– yes, yes! That explains it. All hope of Microsoft inching towards a refined, consistent and intuitive user interface was lost when Yosemite was released. Ugly, exactly as intended and exactly as few people will notice. Tastes better now, doesn't it?

Whoa all the letters are scrambled, guess it's still pre-alpha.

It's no good. No good at all. No good trying to contain myself any longer, I'll just burst if I do.

OK. There's one more thing. It's RELEASED!

Sign me up!

Quickly sir! Here, here and here. Quick as you can now, today's freshness will be remarketed as old and ugly in six months. Now, as always in the past, we pride ourselves on offering consistency and continuity across all devices, including those that are not yet availalable, and that means continually fresh, vibrant obsolescence. Apple likes to call it 'vobrolescence', and that's something only we can provide. The best, never a crappy product.

Lync is a bit of a sore spot … Don't get me wrong, it's atrocious and needs fixing –

More than just a bit! Aim to please, that's the designer's motto. It's always good to know that a software product was released at just the right moment. May I pass on the compliment to my dolleagues?

take the experience from "torture chamber" to merely "highly annoying".

An exquisite choice of words, Mr. P.

Yosemite can, no, will embrace both of those ideals, and more.

MS lost it … the GUI layout is terrible. … why, oh god, why? …

Please. All is not lost. Apple found that thing, that uncanny ability to please some users whilst utterly pissing off some others, and gave it depth. Freshness. The exquisite horror, that exquisiteness that only our most select customers can truly appreciate, that horror of user interface actually helps the user to focus on content.

…
  1. Microsoft just made the Yosemite theme look ugly.
  2. I never liked the ribbon. It seemed disorganized and bloated from the very beginning. …

Please. I know it's late and that this post is neverending, but it's not done to let Microsoft take all the credit. Apple took the lead on ugliness with Yosemite. It's subtle, the ugliness in Yosemite. Microsoft's is measurably no more or less ugly than Apple's; it's just that Microsoft's is more in your face.

Ribbon-tastic; lets waste all that screen real-estate with pointless and useless icons. …

I like the idea. Only one problem: pre-alpha, as the other gentleman most astutely observed. So it's too late to change the essence of the visual design. And it's released, so our coffee person has their work cut out for them. Documentation, and don't spare the horses.

… that interface has become so overwhelming. …

Patience – there's more to come, sir. I knew that would bring a smile to your face. Lots, and lots of bright, bright, blue.

It's kinda weird. … those big unsightly icons …

You're welcome. Between you and me I knew, from the start, that folder-like simply wouldn't do. Bright, bright blue, weird big and unsightly. I'm quite overcome with emotion at the perfection achieved by my dolleagues.

… a flatter look …

Please. Please. I don't want to cry.

… Mail on the other hand is buggy …

Much as I'd like our UI team to take the credit for that, it's only fair to point out that we can't do everything. The lift to your right leads straight to the Continuity of Bugs team area; your appreciation of their work – their determination to continue a bug from one release to the next – will be most welcome there.

Croissant?

I am forced to use office at work and find it a horrendous peice of software to use.
With the new flat look that yosemite gives it, it looks even worse! …

Our Employer Involvement Programme does simply outstanding co-operative work for Microsoft. I'm so glad that, thanks to your employer and to Apple's clarity of vision, you were amongst the first to appreciate those qualities. Welcome to tomorrow, sir.

Welcome, sir, welcome madam, welcome, all flat-headed people. The worst may be yet to come.

I hope that this is real news. …

Everything above is real. As real as the day is long. Twenty minutes long.
 
Good question. But I can tell you the odds of me not subscribing to such a model are at 100% :D
Well, you'll be missing out on the best deal around then.
Currently for 5 users, Office 365 costs £1 per month per user for access to the latest Office (PC or Mac), all iPad apps and totally UNLIMITED storage on OneDrive.
Compare that to Apple £180 per year for 1Tb storage only, and Dropbox £70 for the same.
O365 is the price of 3 or 4 beers a YEAR! Compare that to buying the software outright, and then paying for a cloud service on top.
Frankly, it's a no brainer.
 
That person lied to you. There is absolutely no reason or benefit for Apple to hold back Microsoft from putting out a newer version of Office for Mac. It helps Apple's product sales and Apple has never tried to compete it's iWork suite against MS Office.


See normally I would say yes you're right but now that the announcement was made that it's out and live... I tend to think he wasn't lying to me.
 
See normally I would say yes you're right but now that the announcement was made that it's out and live... I tend to think he wasn't lying to me.

But what proof was put out that Apple held back Microsoft from putting out Mac Office? It really doesn't make sense for them to do that. iWork really doesn't compete with Mac Office and even if it did it still ends in a Mac sale which helps Apple so it makes no sense for Apple to block Microsoft.
 
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