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New Version of Panther (Tachyon) for New Hardware?
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Although Tachyons do travel faster than light, and can cause space-sailing ships to travel at warp speeds, they are not dangerous. Also its cronoton particles that are the biproduct of cloaking devices.
Anyway... I've heard Tachyons as two different things reciently. Tachyons can be large computing systems (Usually 2-64 processors) that can be recombined into several, seperately operating computer systems, controlled by software. Also, Tachyons are large cabinents of Disk storage. Multi-Terra-Byte Harddrive RAIDS some as big as a room (Think of the Computer room from "Patriot Games"
With that data, I believe that either Apple is upping the ante in the Xserve business, adding more powerful and larger Xserves, maybe a 5U system with a standard style Xserve on top and 8 or 9 specally designed 1/2U Node systems that can run as several different Servers.
Another Idea is an Xserve RAID that is several times the current capacity. Residing in a large cabnet, and "Tachyon" is the control system.
Now off the Deep End:
Tachyon is a new system for Cellphones or PocketPCs
Tachyon is OSX for Cluster Systems, allowing for greater Flexability in Server Envrionments
Tachyon is the system designed to run Kiosks... Like ATMs, Infocenters, Cars, etc.
That's all I got now..
TEG
That's what I thought from the quote. Maybe it's Xcode. (How come nobody is talking about Xcode?!)
SEE! This proves that a G5 laptop is going to be released next week!!
[Tongue firmly planted in cheek]
Sorry. Had to be the first one to chime in on this thread about G5 laptops.
[Tongue firmly planted in cheek]
Sorry. Had to be the first one to chime in on this thread about G5 laptops. I Want Panther!!!
I hope next week in Paris Apple has a ship date, like it's ready next week. That would be good...
I hope next week in Paris Apple has a ship date, like it's ready next week. That would be good...
Re: Just the G5?
Thanks for the link.... but still doesn't entirely make sense.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1136018,00.asp
"the Tachyon development environment version 6K452. This provides the appropriate development tools for generating the SPEC binaries and installs Apple's version of the GCC compiler (version 3.3 build 1379) on the test system.""
So, this is just new development tools for the G5? You think someone just got confused?
Or, is it true, true, and unrelated?
Because... Panther Final will run on the G5's. It's not like Apple will release it with a big warning on the box - Does Not Run on G5 PowerMacs. So, its not likely they are working on a PowerMac G5 specific version after gold master of Panther.
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Thanks for the link.... but still doesn't entirely make sense.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1136018,00.asp
"the Tachyon development environment version 6K452. This provides the appropriate development tools for generating the SPEC binaries and installs Apple's version of the GCC compiler (version 3.3 build 1379) on the test system.""
So, this is just new development tools for the G5? You think someone just got confused?
Or, is it true, true, and unrelated?
Because... Panther Final will run on the G5's. It's not like Apple will release it with a big warning on the box - Does Not Run on G5 PowerMacs. So, its not likely they are working on a PowerMac G5 specific version after gold master of Panther.
arn
It does appear that it is just some sort of piece of the development tools, but my read is that it is part of the panther development specifically for the G5. I don't know anything more than I try to get out of these articles, but it doesn't seem like any indication of new hardware - do you think differently?
That doesn't mean there won't be new hardware, right?
That doesn't mean there won't be new hardware, right?
Re: Re: Just the G5?
Tachyon as described above is a Jaguar-compatible (possibly Panther-compatible) build of the gcc toolset with G5 support.
You do not need Tachyon to build G5-compatible software; you need it to build G5-optimized software.
You also do not need Tachyon for the OS to run properly; it is a developer tool release, not an OS release.
One can deduce that Apple will release, as they always have in the past, updates to the system OS which will support any new system controller chip in new hardware.
The addition of the "codename" of Tachyon was either someone's brain-fart or someone deciding they needed a code name to lend credence to that which simple logic would tell you anyways.
Tachyon as described above is a Jaguar-compatible (possibly Panther-compatible) build of the gcc toolset with G5 support.
You do not need Tachyon to build G5-compatible software; you need it to build G5-optimized software.
You also do not need Tachyon for the OS to run properly; it is a developer tool release, not an OS release.
One can deduce that Apple will release, as they always have in the past, updates to the system OS which will support any new system controller chip in new hardware.
The addition of the "codename" of Tachyon was either someone's brain-fart or someone deciding they needed a code name to lend credence to that which simple logic would tell you anyways.
new hardware
if there is new hardware next week i.e.. G5PB .... panther must run on them all ready.
if there is new hardware next week i.e.. G5PB .... panther must run on them all ready.
Hmmm... So maybe the initial Panther release is a generic build for G3/G4/G5 (yes, I know there are some G5-specific libraries include for better math performance, etc. and, obviously, G5 hardware support). Then Tachyon is a Panther point release that recompiles the kernel with the latest gcc G5 optimizations (from the Tachyon development tools). This approach would allow Apple to concentrate on getting Panther solid first and then worry about G5 optimizations.
Just a though.
Just a though.
Well, obviously that is why Apple is working on with tachyons. Apples newest hardware will be accelerated to hyper-C speeds and thus travel backwards in time to the early part of this year. Soon the timeline will straighten itself out and you will no longer retain memories of any of this.
Re: YEAR OF THE LAP TOP
So I think Steve was saying that if you're looking for something right now, don't wait cause you'll be waiting a long time. Buy a laptop and be happy until we get our ***** together.
He wanted to get the focus off desktops beacuse they had nothing to offer.
I think that statement was essentially saying that there's not going to be any major desktops released this year, which there was, but they shipped in the third quarter.
So I think Steve was saying that if you're looking for something right now, don't wait cause you'll be waiting a long time. Buy a laptop and be happy until we get our ***** together.
He wanted to get the focus off desktops beacuse they had nothing to offer.
Magic Eightball says "G5 PowerBook Announced in Paris"
I'm taking this to be another sign that G5 PowerBooks will be announced (read: not shipping 'anytime in the near future' yah Jos).
Here's my reasoning:
Software development has to coincide with hardware development (well, it doesn't HAVE to, but Apple seem pretty good about co-developing their platform). Because of Moto's production delays (out of Apple's control), software development (in Apple's control) has outstripped hardware development.
At some point, maybe a month or so ago, Apple decided that they were better off pre-announcing a G5 Powerbook in Paris even though it probably won't ship until December. Announcing a minor speed-bumped G4 would just be too little, too late. I mean, they could announce a new G4, but I think Apple are quite aware that it wouldn't generate much excitement.
I mean really, could you imagine Steve Jobs having waited to announce the the new iMacs at Paris? Completely underwhelming. At this point, a G4 update for Powerbooks would produce the same chorus of yawns that the new iMacs have.
My prediction: Steve announces G5 Powerbooks at Paris. Publicly declared shipping date: December 2003. Actual shipping date acknowledged in Cupertino Star Chamber: Feb 2004 (hah! those suckers - we've got them hooked. We can delay the delayed shipping dates by another couple of months and they'll still buy from us! Ahh, the priveleges of a loyal fan base)
It just seems as though the OS development is proceeding at a pace that would place a very short shelf-life on G4 products. I would think Apple would not want to contine development of a non 64-bit enhanced OSX much further and would look to move the G5 across all product lines fairly quickly.
I'm taking this to be another sign that G5 PowerBooks will be announced (read: not shipping 'anytime in the near future' yah Jos).
Here's my reasoning:
Software development has to coincide with hardware development (well, it doesn't HAVE to, but Apple seem pretty good about co-developing their platform). Because of Moto's production delays (out of Apple's control), software development (in Apple's control) has outstripped hardware development.
At some point, maybe a month or so ago, Apple decided that they were better off pre-announcing a G5 Powerbook in Paris even though it probably won't ship until December. Announcing a minor speed-bumped G4 would just be too little, too late. I mean, they could announce a new G4, but I think Apple are quite aware that it wouldn't generate much excitement.
I mean really, could you imagine Steve Jobs having waited to announce the the new iMacs at Paris? Completely underwhelming. At this point, a G4 update for Powerbooks would produce the same chorus of yawns that the new iMacs have.
My prediction: Steve announces G5 Powerbooks at Paris. Publicly declared shipping date: December 2003. Actual shipping date acknowledged in Cupertino Star Chamber: Feb 2004 (hah! those suckers - we've got them hooked. We can delay the delayed shipping dates by another couple of months and they'll still buy from us! Ahh, the priveleges of a loyal fan base)
It just seems as though the OS development is proceeding at a pace that would place a very short shelf-life on G4 products. I would think Apple would not want to contine development of a non 64-bit enhanced OSX much further and would look to move the G5 across all product lines fairly quickly.
http://www.googlism.com/index.htm?ism=tachyon&type=2
tachyon is worth the extra ten dollars
tachyon is far from bad
tachyon is a sure thing
hyon is imaginary
Perhaps they will use the tackyon's time-space properties to speed up the clock cycle on G4s? Though I'd be concerned that they might get the temporal shielding right and we'll all exposed to temporal radiation making the computer do the same process over and over.
Okay, I know this may seem like a dumb question, but now that we know the Tachyon is a name for the developer's tools, does that change the ThinkSecret story any?
I mean, is Apple actually workig on a modified Panther for release with a new product (I think new iBooks in this case)? Or was DePlume simply writing about Apple's developer tools work and didn't realize this is what they call them, instaed thinking it was a code name for an OSX version they were discussing.
I mean, is Apple actually workig on a modified Panther for release with a new product (I think new iBooks in this case)? Or was DePlume simply writing about Apple's developer tools work and didn't realize this is what they call them, instaed thinking it was a code name for an OSX version they were discussing.
Tachyon is a good name for a cpu. Maybe Apple could start calling their chips tachyon chips when they get board of G numbers.
hey Avie..you sure "tachyon" is ok?
Found this rummaging around the net..nice little cross-assembler for IBM z and old 390 codes:
http://www.tachyonsoft.com/txaover.html
Also guys..if you are going to write code for a "fast 64 bit Java2 server"..you might want some 128 bit cache in that G5..right now there ain't any...
<--waiting for Big Al to change his mind..
Found this rummaging around the net..nice little cross-assembler for IBM z and old 390 codes:
http://www.tachyonsoft.com/txaover.html
Also guys..if you are going to write code for a "fast 64 bit Java2 server"..you might want some 128 bit cache in that G5..right now there ain't any...
<--waiting for Big Al to change his mind..