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He has been responsible for all iOS versions from 1 to 6. iOS 7 is the showcase for what iOS looks without the influence of Scott Forstall. When he was fired the rumored reason was, because he was the second biggest advocate for skeuomorphic design (after Steve Jobs himself) and because he was supposed to be a jerk, not working well together with others (read Jony Ive). When Ive became also responsible for software design the ugliness happened.

The day after tomorrow real people will have iOS 7 in their hand and judge it for what it is.
Those who already prefer Windows 7 over Windows 8.

Supposedly, Bob Mansfield would not even sit in on a meeting with Forstall present as well.

Totally agree on the ugliness, but Forstall had let iOS stagnate under his watch. We just have to take the good with the bad.
 
well that is all fine and dandy, but not everyone has the latest iphone right now. Some of us are on older versions and are excited about getting something new. If you don't care then why did you take the time to create a user name and post a comment?

nah its boring
 
I sold my iPhone 5 and got Galaxy S4 when it came out thinking I'd give Android a try. Oh boy was I wrong. The S4 gave me nothing but trouble. Let me give you some examples. The proximity sensor works only half of the time. When I bring the phone up to my face half of the time the screen doesn't turn black. I have to push the wake/sleep button to sleep the screen. The phone doesn't respond for 10 seconds after I unplug it from the charger. I can't even answer calls. I bought an 64GB SD card but it doesn't work well with the phone. Every time when I take a photo and view it in the gallery, the card unmounts itself. After searching the Android forums it turns out many are having the same problems. Their solutions? 1) buy a new card, 2) flash the rom, or 3) get another app to view the photos. Brilliant. I use my phone the same way as I did with my iPhone but the S4 couldn't last a day where the iPhone could easily.

What I want to say is if you really want to switch, go with another manufacturer. Never buy Samsung again. I'll be preordering the iPhone 5S on day one.

I'll go ahead and play devils advocate:

I had a S3. It was a bad idea. I agree a lot of the things are gimmicks that don't work, things like proximity sensors to watch when you're looking at the screen. Battery life was awful, mine overheated very easilly. Lots of things. So i came back to the iphone. But i will say the issues i had with the S3 weren't the iOS, more of the over CPU'd hardware they put in and the rubbish software layers manufactures add on the the OS. I'll watch what happens tomorrow, but i do feel i may go back to android for a second chance with a better android experience (Moto X). There are things that are definitely more clever within Android compared to iOS, and i feel iOS7 will be enough to get it up to, or close to Android, but not put it above.

Each to their own though.
 
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Supposedly, Bob Mansfield would not even sit in on a meeting with Forstall present as well. Totally agree on the ugliness, but Forstall had let iOS stagnate under his watch. We just have to take the good with the bad.
True true. But you could also say, Craig Federighi has let OSX stagnate under his watch and Jony Ive has let MacBook design stagnate under his watch. But they didn't. Apple was always able to improve upon what was good about its last generation product and integrate new features seamlessly without destroying the old.

Not so with iOS7 witch is a radical departure, not maintaining what was already good about iOS6. The boring more of the same but slimmer and snappier approach worked, because Apple was a company with a vision and every iteration of their products would bring them nearer to the aimed ideal state. If you agreed with Apples ideals even the smallest changes would mean much on the way to perfection.

But with iOS7 there was a sudden shift of goals. The new UI isn't the same but better. It came with a completely new definition of what better even means. Skinny text is now better than real world icons. White backgrounds are better than texture. And I don't buy it. There was a reason things in iOS6 were like they are. iOS6 already followed basic design and usability principles which are now ignored in favor of other goals.
 
Are any prospective 5S buyers tempted by this ? What do you think, would you pay less for a decontented iPhone?

Buying the iPhone 5c would just be like buying an ugly version of the 4s I have with the nice 4" screen. But the 5s will be so much nicer looking/feeling and it will have the fingerprint sensor and the faster internals so I'm 5s all the way ;)
 
I'll go ahead and play devils advocate:

I had a S3. It was a bad idea. I agree a lot of the things are gimmicks that don't work, things like proximity sensors to watch when you're looking at the screen. Battery life was awful, mine overheated very easilly. Lots of things. So i came back to the iphone. But i will say the issues i had with the S3 weren't the iOS, more of the over CPU'd hardware they put in and the rubbish software layers manufactures add on the the OS. I'll watch what happens tomorrow, but i do feel i may go back to android for a second chance with a better android experience (Moto X). There are things that are definitely more clever within Android compared to iOS, and i feel iOS7 will be enough to get it up to, or close to Android, but not put it above.

Each to their own though.

I never have a problem with Android. It's just Samsung. There are things that Android does better than iOS but with the recent iOS7 updates they addressed a lot of complaints I have with the iOS, so I'm gonna give it another try. The only thing I want from the iPhone is to have a slightly larger screen, perhaps in the 4.2"-4.5" range.
 
iPhone 5Cs will rock because they have personality in design. I bet a lot of die hard 5Sers will crumble at the last minute and go for the 5C. People want change, and that change is color! Apple knew this before consumers knew they wanted it! Call me simplistic, but I think the 5C will be apple's best selling product ever!
 
iPhone 5Cs will rock because they have personality in design. I bet a lot of die hard 5Sers will crumble at the last minute and go for the 5C. People want change, and that change is color! Apple knew this before consumers knew they wanted it! Call me simplistic, but I think the 5C will be apple's best selling product ever!

If that 5C takes off in the developing world, as it is expected to, you may very well be correct in that assertion.
A fully featured, lower priced phone, in a fun, carefree package with universal appeal. Unprecedented success beyond even Apple's wildest expectations, all but guaranteed!!

Take that to the bank.
 
Will the 5C perhaps be 'Free' on-contract?

With our Verizon Wireless 'contract' set to end November 1, my wife and I will upgrade and 're-up.' I'm wondering whether the 5C will be 'FREE' on-contract. How likely is this?

Chris in New Hampshire
 
True true. But you could also say, Craig Federighi has let OSX stagnate under his watch and Jony Ive has let MacBook design stagnate under his watch. But they didn't. Apple was always able to improve upon what was good about its last generation product and integrate new features seamlessly without destroying the old.

Not so with iOS7 witch is a radical departure, not maintaining what was already good about iOS6. The boring more of the same but slimmer and snappier approach worked, because Apple was a company with a vision and every iteration of their products would bring them nearer to the aimed ideal state. If you agreed with Apples ideals even the smallest changes would mean much on the way to perfection.

But with iOS7 there was a sudden shift of goals. The new UI isn't the same but better. It came with a completely new definition of what better even means. Skinny text is now better than real world icons. White backgrounds are better than texture. And I don't buy it. There was a reason things in iOS6 were like they are. iOS6 already followed basic design and usability principles which are now ignored in favor of other goals.

Wow, well said. I agree.

I was referring to the stagnation in the feature set.
 
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