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Wish we could integrate this in cars that will not support iOS in the car.

Pioner AppRadio does. I have the AppRadio 3 in my car. Allows me to control my iPhone 5 from the 7" touch screen in the dash. Can do Pandora or Waze or any other app. I can press the steering wheel butting to activate Siri and use voice commands to change the music, send texts, make calls, etc.
 
Because "value" isn't just about money. Value is also about spending time with my kids, eating dinner at home, helping with homework, picking them up from school, going to activities ........ lots of things that single hipsters don't have any idea about.

I've never really understood this whole time has value argument.

Many people don't get paid overtime, so it only comes down to the hours worked. If it takes you twice as long to get to work by mass transit then you will spend more time commuting but you won't earn less for the month.

Some people here think that people spend every second of their day doing something that could be earning themselves money. In fact, taking public transportation has its upside: take a nap, read the paper/book/kindle/notes for work, RELAX, listen to music, read some email.....or simply do nothing and enjoy the morning. I've seen people who draw molecular diagrams on the bus on their laptops. This is productivity that they wouldn't have had if they themselves had to drive. Many people/student look over document, notes, etc...... Again, things you can't do while driving. So it is not only convenient but good for the environment, can actually save you time, and can get you to relax a bit in the morning.
 
Apple maps still don't provide directions in my country. I use both iOS and Mavericks and Apple maps are completely useless for me :mad:
 
I've never really understood this whole time has value argument.

If so, probably because you have nothing going on in your life and don't really need to be anywhere, be w/ anyone, etc. Too much time on your hands = devalued time. Sorry about that. :(
 
As someone who takes mass transit and doesn't even own a car: this (and Apple Maps in general) is completely useless to me.
Well I guess Apple should stop working on this then. Clearly there aren't enough cars in use to warrant the development of this.
 
+1

The true efficient, affordable, and convenient mode of transportation.
A car is a symbol of freedom for the male species, that is also efficient affordable and convenient mode of transportation. The iOS in the car just further enhances that experience. I have literally put off buying a car for two years because I want that complete iOS in the car experience. It's going to be funny how people make purchases in the near future, their decision will most likely include what type of Mobile ecosystem they are using.
 
Tesla iOS in the car?

Tesla's v6.0 firmware update is due in the next month or so. It is rumored to be a major upgrade. Perhaps the timing is to be available with the launch of iOS in the car? The vertical 17" screen has an aspect ratio that would be a natural to mirror a vertical iPad or iPhone leaving space above and below for the car's native apps. There have been rumors of Siri integration into the Tesla.
 
Looking forward to using this with my AppRadio 3. Already do stuff along these lines with it but an integrated implementation will be nice too.

dont hold your breath. Pioneer will have to program an implementation for iOS in the Car, and release a firmware update. theyre not very good about this.
 
As someone who takes mass transit and doesn't even own a car: this (and Apple Maps in general) is completely useless to me.

thank you for this valuable information. i will be sure to relay to the appropriate divisions within apple. they need to understand there is a guy who doesnt use a car.

again, thank you for the alert.

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Wish we could integrate this in cars that will not support iOS in the car.

you can -- just buy an aftermarket unit that does. problem solved.

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Main question I have is how this can be retrofit to those ancient, rusty, 2013 and 2014 vehicles out there that have in dash screens but no iOS goodness :) Wondering if I'll have to add an aftermarket video input and an Apple TV otherwise.

the solution will be to ditch the manufacturer's head unit and purchase a third-party unit that does.

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Have they actually improved maps well enough to make someone want to use it to navigate?

The last time I used it (just a couple months ago) it took me several miles away from the location I intended to arrive at. A GPS isn't worth a penny if it doesn't actually give proper directions.

google and apple maps both are generally reliable for me but infrequently have errors.
 
I'm guessing you have to be in NYC, because I can't think of any other city on earth where you'd really think you can live your entire life in the single city. I do 95+% of my traveling by public transit, but I still own a car for when I want to go someplace that the transit system doesn't go, or I want to go there at a time when it doesn't.

My car obviously doesn't support iOS in the car, but maybe I'll spring for it in my next car (probably at least 3 years away... My current car is still running quite well.)

There are lots of cities where 100% transit is possible. Many European cities, all major Canadian cities (Vancouver and Toronto at least), SF and NYC. And now there are services like Go cars for when you do need to briefly use a vehicle. There's also rental cars if you're taking a trip out of town somewhere where there's no transit.
 
There are lots of cities where 100% transit is possible. Many European cities, all major Canadian cities (Vancouver and Toronto at least), SF and NYC. And now there are services like Go cars for when you do need to briefly use a vehicle. There's also rental cars if you're taking a trip out of town somewhere where there's no transit.

Yeah, I have a friend who lives downtown, works downtown, walks to work and any shops he needs, and spends time mostly with friends who either (a) also live downtown, within walking distance, or (b) own vehicles, so he can get rides from them if needed. (Myself included.) He lives close to a transitway corridor where major bus routes whisk him to the nearest large malls, train station, airport, universities, etc. within minutes.

He's perfectly happy with this arrangement and for him, life works just fine without a car.

Meanwhile I live in a suburb of the same city and work in an industrial park. I live about 10 miles away from work, which would be at least an hour's bus ride due to the convoluted and infrequent suburban bus routes. I could bike, but it would be 45 minutes. The nearest grocery stores are a few miles away so walking or biking, while possible, is inconvenient. And I spend my time doing activities and visiting people who live relatively far apart. For me, losing access to my car for even one day would be highly inconvenient.

Sometimes I wonder who's really the winner here.
 
AC / lights?

The main "car" usage looks to be only audio, navigation, and phone.

What about control of AC/Heat/Thermostat?
 
As someone who takes mass transit and doesn't even own a car: this (and Apple Maps in general) is completely useless to me.

As someone who drives a gas guzzling SUV with a huge V8, your post (and posts like this in general from "it's all about me" posters) is completely useless to me.

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+1

The true efficient, affordable, and convenient mode of transportation.

Want... to... reply... can't... stop... laughing... though...
 
A car is a symbol of freedom for the male species, that is also efficient affordable and convenient mode of transportation. The iOS in the car just further enhances that experience. I have literally put off buying a car for two years because I want that complete iOS in the car experience. It's going to be funny how people make purchases in the near future, their decision will most likely include what type of Mobile ecosystem they are using.

I'm surprised Apple isn't teaming up with Audi, since their design most closely matches Apple's design philosophy (in my opinion.)

In terms of transportation, the car is convenient, and nothing more. It's a convenience item and the US is built around it. In many countries (especially Europe) many cities offer amazing mass transit (subway, tramway, bus) systems that make the care a PITA. Example: With the subway, you can go into the city, not worry about parking, making it not only cheaper but giving you more flexibility. You can walk two miles one way and then use public transportation to get back home. With a car, you have to go back because you parked your car somewhere. Affordability is also a thing. Americans think they need it (which in the case of the US is correct). Once you need something, you loose judgement because the price doesn't really matter that much. It becomes like the price of electricity or a microwave. Not relevant because life without it is no fun. However, as soon as you have a choice to either take the subway, for example, or drive the car, the car becomes relatively more expansive. You really have to make an argument why you need it. In many European cities, most people still have a car, but they realize this is a convince and luxury and therefore don't complain about how expansive it is. But in many places, it is a luxury.

In terms of a car being the "symbol of freedom for the male species" is complete BS. This is exactly what car manufacturers want you to believe. Ever look at Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Jeep, Dodge, Ford, Chevrolet ads? They all try to tell you that if you want to masculine, you NEED this. They'll play some cool rock music and label their car "charger" "challenger" avenger" "magnum" "liberty" "patriot". I would say this is part of the evolution of man. Europe is past this and has more important things to worry about than driving a car. There's more to life than driving. And people wo think they're cool behind the wheel rarely are.
 
I'm surprised Apple isn't teaming up with Audi, since their design most closely matches Apple's design philosophy (in my opinion.)

In terms of transportation, the car is convenient, and nothing more. It's a convenience item and the US is built around it. In many countries (especially Europe) many cities offer amazing mass transit (subway, tramway, bus) systems that make the care a PITA. Example: With the subway, you can go into the city, not worry about parking, making it not only cheaper but giving you more flexibility. You can walk two miles one way and then use public transportation to get back home. With a car, you have to go back because you parked your car somewhere. Affordability is also a thing. Americans think they need it (which in the case of the US is correct). Once you need something, you loose judgement because the price doesn't really matter that much. It becomes like the price of electricity or a microwave. Not relevant because life without it is no fun. However, as soon as you have a choice to either take the subway, for example, or drive the car, the car becomes relatively more expansive. You really have to make an argument why you need it. In many European cities, most people still have a car, but they realize this is a convince and luxury and therefore don't complain about how expansive it is. But in many places, it is a luxury.

In terms of a car being the "symbol of freedom for the male species" is complete BS. This is exactly what car manufacturers want you to believe. Ever look at Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Jeep, Dodge, Ford, Chevrolet ads? They all try to tell you that if you want to masculine, you NEED this. They'll play some cool rock music and label their car "charger" "challenger" avenger" "magnum" "liberty" "patriot". I would say this is part of the evolution of man. Europe is past this and has more important things to worry about than driving a car. There's more to life than driving. And people wo think they're cool behind the wheel rarely are.
The freedom I was talking about was not from a marketing perspective. It was a more positive note.
 
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It is expected, as 'Siri Handsfree' and Airplay is all third party supported.

I'd hope Pioneer has
1. New head unit coming out, hopefully slim-lined of all the other AppRadio garbage, and running just this.
2. A firmware update for AppRadio 2/3.

My wishlist.
1. 6+ inch touch (can't decide smooth responsive capacitive touch, or glove compatible resistive)
2. AM/FM/HD Radio tuner built in
3. Bluetooth audio.
4. iOS in the Car via wireless link, maybe using hybrid version of airdrop protocal?. For short distance, a new local place I want nav to find... I don't need a power link. Just leave device in pocket. Power hookup can be separate as far as I'm concerned, but nice option to have.

That's it. CD optional, not necessary. Line in, if it's hidden around back maybe for someone to route to their glovebox. I'd like a clean front.

I'm with you...The having the option for a CD would be nice though. Maybe I am old school but I still like the feeling of going to a store (like Best Buy) and physically buying the disc. Then unwrapping the shrink wrap (probably struggling with the label tape at the top - all part of the experience) and then playing that new CD that I have been dying to hear...It is what I did when Pearl Jam's Lightning Bolt came out last year...it felt GREAT!
 
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