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New York Law Enforcement Officials Operate $10 Million Lab Designed to Crack iPhones
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Really? 36 characters? lol, well, some one is clearly paranoid.
This guy is absolutely full of it.
1. Law enforcement may be entrusted with that responsibility, but it’s one they abuse daily.
2. Apple and Google don’t limit access to data for the fun of it. These devices house financial, health and behavioural information that bad actors can use for all kinds of illegal purposes.
3. If he had a clue what he was talking about, he would know there is no way to grant law enforcement access without opening innocent, law abiding users up to such bad actors.
There are daily security breaches of “secure“ systems that result in fraud and theft. Law enforcement‘s access to these devices is reactive - i.e. after a crime has taken place. Till they can prove a legitimate greater good defence for destroying security for everyone, they can kindly shove that room full of iPhones in his “radio frequency isolation chamber” where the sun doesn’t shine.
They were eating donuts and jerking each other off in their patrol cars of course, do you really have to ask?!
that’s like $140 per person..
if i were homeless, sure, a couple weeks worth of meals would be nice but...
$10million isn’t going as far as you seemingly think it will.
Funding basic human needs for the homeless is not "throwing money at the problem". Your proclamation that "shelters have been built" is vague and impossible to evaluate without data on what you mean.
"unless the people themselves want to help themselves" - do you think homeless people have easy access to shelters and food, but they just prefer to live on the street? This is a much larger discussion for another forum...
Duck the police. Bunch of crybabies
Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance Jr. built and oversees a $10 million high-tech forensics lab built expressly for the purpose of cracking iPhones, according to a new profile done by Fast Company.
The lab is equipped with "mind-bending hardware" and a team of technology experts, many of whom are ex-military. The facility itself features a radiofrequency isolation chamber that prevents iPhones being used in investigations from being accessed remotely to keep them from being wiped.
Vance's team has thousands of iPhones at the facility in various stages of being cracked. There's a supercomputer that generates 26 million random passcodes per second, a robot that can remove memory chips without using heat, and specialized tools for repairing damaged devices to make them accessible once again.
All of the iPhones are hooked up to computers that are generating passcodes in an effort to get into the iPhones, and sometimes that requires going through tens of thousands of number combinations. Those who work at the facility, including director Steven Moran, also attempt to narrow down possibilities using birthdays, significant dates, and other info that could be used in each specific case for an iPhone passcode.
Proprietary workflow software tracks all of the iPhones at the facility, including their software and their importance, for the purpose of deciding which iPhone to work on and which might be able to be cracked using a newly found third-party solution.
Vance has been a major critic of Apple and has called on the government to introduce anti-encryption legislation to make it easier for law enforcement officials to get into iPhones needed for criminal investigations. According to Vance, 82 percent of smartphones that come into the unit are locked, and his cybercrime lab can crack "about half."
Apple's frequent software updates continually make breaking into iPhones harder by making the process more complicated, which can make it close to impossible to breach an iPhone in a timely manner. "The problem with that, particularly from a law enforcement perspective, is, first of all, time matters to us," said Vance.
Vance believes that it's "not fair" that Apple and Google can prevent law enforcement officials from accessing smartphones. Vance says that law enforcement is entrusted with a responsibility to "protect the public" but Apple and Google have limited access to information "just because they say so." Vance is of the opinion that there should be a "balance" between protecting user privacy and getting justice for victims of crimes.Apple's argument is that it provides iPhone data from iCloud without breaking into the iPhone itself, but Vance says that a serious criminal doesn't have an iCloud backup. A user can also choose what information is stored remotely, and "in many cases" smartphones do not backup between the time when a crime takes place and an iPhone is shut off.
Law enforcement officials can also obtain device metadata like the time and location of a phone call from SIM cards or phone carriers, but Moran says that's the difference between being able to read a letter and being limited to just the envelope the letter came in.Vance says that he's not "whining" about the encryption problem, but his lab is "not the answer" as most of the U.S. can't afford to do the work that the New York cyber lab does.
Fast Company's profile of Vance's cyber lab comes as Apple is gearing up for another battle with the FBI. Apple has been asked to unlock the iPhones used by Florida shooter Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, and while Apple has provided iCloud data, the company will fight requests to unlock the actual devices.
For more on New York's High Technology Analysis Unit and facility, make sure to check out Fast Company's full profile.
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So you spent $10 million, and turns out the only thing you can find inside is porn.
Waste of tax payers moneyColor me shocked - yet another gov't stooge who doesn't understand you can't crack one iPhone without compromising every other as well
I wonder if he complains as loudly about the 4th-6th amendments?
"Whaddaya mean we need a warrant? What about the victims? We can just waterboard a confession out him, right? OMG! You mean our officers actually have to investigate crimes? Find evidence? Who has time for that?"
"Whaddaya mean we need a warrant? What about the victims? We can just waterboard a confession out him, right? OMG! You mean our officers actually have to investigate crimes? Find evidence? Who has time for that?"
NYPD is very corrupt. They protect their own and any action used against them, is met with heavy criticism and pandering about “tougher for our law enforcement to do their jobs!”
" About five years ago, with the introduction of its iOS8 operating system, Apple decided to encrypt all of its mobile devices—protecting both consumers and criminals from prying eyes. Google quickly followed suit, locking down its Android devices. The result has been an escalating cat and mouse game between Washington and Silicon Valley, with prosecutors like Vance trying to break into the phones, and Apple and Google racing to stop them."
This quote is from the article. It's not just Iphones that they have trouble getting into.
This quote is from the article. It's not just Iphones that they have trouble getting into.
This - source code for crazy encryption has been out in the wild for a long time and you can't get that back. If they put backdoors in the phones for the included apps, then bad folks (and likely lots of good folks too) will simply start using encryption apps that aren't subject to the back doors. We'll have gotten rid of a good and useful thing and be no better off for it.
Hey does anyone else notice how that reads like a Nazi propaganda leaflet?
The admiring tone of that article makes me want to throw up.
Fast Company, owned surely by one media empire or the other, is obviously jerking off their friends in the government. Entirely unclear by now whether the government owns these companies or vice versa - who cares anyway!
The rulers of this country were never elected and never get de-elected.
Its the same as when the NYT breathlessly reports on the heroic efforts of our troops overseas,invading other countries for money and power of the elites defending our freedom...
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Yes of course. Gun ownership is actually in the constitution as a means to prevent a tyranny in the USA. That tyranny has arrived and of course it's constantly try to remove guns, going so far as staging shootings... once it becomes clear that those who perpetrate these crimes are perfectly OK to kill people for their power games, it all becomes very obvious.
The government, and by extension the news media info wars being played on the population, don't give a **** about catching a few criminals. Criminals are not smart, by definition. At least those that get caught.
So it's not about that at all
It's only about power - they want more power over everyone
Encrypted communication threatens their power structure. They're fully aware of that.
The admiring tone of that article makes me want to throw up.
Fast Company, owned surely by one media empire or the other, is obviously jerking off their friends in the government. Entirely unclear by now whether the government owns these companies or vice versa - who cares anyway!
The rulers of this country were never elected and never get de-elected.
Its the same as when the NYT breathlessly reports on the heroic efforts of our troops overseas,
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Yes of course. Gun ownership is actually in the constitution as a means to prevent a tyranny in the USA. That tyranny has arrived and of course it's constantly try to remove guns, going so far as staging shootings... once it becomes clear that those who perpetrate these crimes are perfectly OK to kill people for their power games, it all becomes very obvious.
The government, and by extension the news media info wars being played on the population, don't give a **** about catching a few criminals. Criminals are not smart, by definition. At least those that get caught.
So it's not about that at all
It's only about power - they want more power over everyone
Encrypted communication threatens their power structure. They're fully aware of that.
So yeah, not gonna lie...until I actually read the article I thought “A 10 million dollar facility just to crack iPhones? Why don’t they just give them to a bunch of drunk college kids or a bunch of 13 year old girls?”
I must be more tired than I thought 😂
I must be more tired than I thought 😂
LOL so how would you access information from criminals then? You think criminals mail paper letters to other criminals?
I cannot grasp what people keep on their phones that are so precious?
I mean, sure, I use a simple passcode on my phone, just because I can't stand the nagging if I don't.
There is zero stuff on my phone that is not available somewhere else online already.
What I talk about with friends on Messenger, SMS, or other apps is of no interest to anybody, almost not even to me.
I really hope that none of you keep banking information on the phones, now that would be terribly stupid no matter the security.
I hardly think anyone on this forum keep national security stuff on their phones, and therefore the info on your phones are of no interest to anyone. If someone steals your phone, they most probably just want to flog it for some quick cash. A very simple passcode prohibits that. There's no need for Top Secret, For Your Eyes Only, MI6 special agent 007 kind of security. If the thief can't sell the phone, it will end up at the bottom of the closest body of water, not in a lab with million-dollars-worth of high-tech equipment to try and crack your passcode so they can watch your 3-year old eat cake.
So, the security just have to be "good enough" that your average petty criminal can't deal with it, but law enforcement with the right stuff can get in. If you are in the gang who keep very valuable stuff on your phone, you are a lot more likely to get beaten up until you tell them the code rather than they will be thwarted by your amazing 32-character, random password that makes your day a bloody misery since it takes forever to type the password every time you want to check your email.
I mean, sure, I use a simple passcode on my phone, just because I can't stand the nagging if I don't.
There is zero stuff on my phone that is not available somewhere else online already.
What I talk about with friends on Messenger, SMS, or other apps is of no interest to anybody, almost not even to me.
I really hope that none of you keep banking information on the phones, now that would be terribly stupid no matter the security.
I hardly think anyone on this forum keep national security stuff on their phones, and therefore the info on your phones are of no interest to anyone. If someone steals your phone, they most probably just want to flog it for some quick cash. A very simple passcode prohibits that. There's no need for Top Secret, For Your Eyes Only, MI6 special agent 007 kind of security. If the thief can't sell the phone, it will end up at the bottom of the closest body of water, not in a lab with million-dollars-worth of high-tech equipment to try and crack your passcode so they can watch your 3-year old eat cake.
So, the security just have to be "good enough" that your average petty criminal can't deal with it, but law enforcement with the right stuff can get in. If you are in the gang who keep very valuable stuff on your phone, you are a lot more likely to get beaten up until you tell them the code rather than they will be thwarted by your amazing 32-character, random password that makes your day a bloody misery since it takes forever to type the password every time you want to check your email.
If I knew that the police could easily get into my phone, I'd wipe my device before shooting up a place, you'll have no job, and the police would just see cat pictures in my photo library.
Be glad terrorist think their data is safe. At least there's a higher chance of something being stored in there.
Do you not understand how TouchID and FaceID work? My pass phrase isn’t 32 characters, but it’s substantially more than 10 characters (and isn’t something you could find in any dictionary). And I type it perhaps once a week. I use TouchID the rest of the time. If you’re typing your password every time you want to check your email, you’re doing it wrong.
