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What "schmuck" would be able to even crack a simple 4-digit code, and who would even bother? Your average "schmuck" that steals your phone wants some quick cash, not access to your "memories".
No access to the data on the phone without that 4-digit code and you thwart 99.999% of "evildoers", the .001% will get to your data using other methods, and they will not be so easily stopped.
I think most of you gives the average petty criminal way too much credit!
I mean, are iPhone thefts even a thing anymore? Everyone and their pets knows stolen iPhones are pretty useless, unless you logged out of iCloud. And, if they threaten you at gunpoint to divulge passwords, would you die rather than letting them erase and sell your phone?
 
NYC spending $10 million for such a stupid anti-consumer intrusive purpose.... they could have spent it instead on the countless homeless and vagrants roaming the streets of NYC.

or they could have spent it in an effort to get Amazon or other corporations to move to NYC.

Who wouldn't want to add more higher paying jobs and income to NYC by inviting Amazon to NYC ?
 
What "schmuck" would be able to even crack a simple 4-digit code, and who would even bother? Your average "schmuck" that steals your phone wants some quick cash, not access to your "memories".
No access to the data on the phone without that 4-digit code and you thwart 99.999% of "evildoers", the .001% will get to your data using other methods, and they will not be so easily stopped.
I think most of you gives the average petty criminal way too much credit!
I mean, are iPhone thefts even a thing anymore? Everyone and their pets knows stolen iPhones are pretty useless, unless you logged out of iCloud. And, if they threaten you at gunpoint to divulge passwords, would you die rather than letting them erase and sell your phone?

You have LITERALLY no understanding of this topic. Zero.
 
Now that's a way to engage in fruitful discussions... :rolleyes:

Whereas trying to shut down an entire discussion by telling everyone they're wrong because they don't share your blasé attitude to privacy is the pinnacle of intellectual debating skills o_O

You're embarrassing yourself now. If you are not interested in the security of your electronic devices then that's fine, but don't expect everyone else to agree.
 
What "schmuck" would be able to even crack a simple 4-digit code, and who would even bother? Your average "schmuck" that steals your phone wants some quick cash, not access to your "memories".
No access to the data on the phone without that 4-digit code and you thwart 99.999% of "evildoers", the .001% will get to your data using other methods, and they will not be so easily stopped.
I think most of you gives the average petty criminal way too much credit!
I mean, are iPhone thefts even a thing anymore? Everyone and their pets knows stolen iPhones are pretty useless, unless you logged out of iCloud. And, if they threaten you at gunpoint to divulge passwords, would you die rather than letting them erase and sell your phone?

That is all I want to accomplish for my Macbook Pro, if stolen stop the average thief from viewing my files, they can wipe the drive, reformat and sell it, so you are writing that we don't need to get crazy, OK.
 
My argumentation is around the fact that iPhones users crave impenetrable security for their devices, whereas the protection they really need is that whomever steals their device cannot view the contents or sell the device.
If that is so, simpler encryption could be used, and law enforcement could crack it open with the right tool and a reasonable amount of time, following court order, of course.
That would make it quite similar to wiretapping phone calls or breaking down your front door to conduct a search of the premises.

Too many here seem to rejoice in the fact that law enforcement is kept out, rather than be able to break in at cost, to actually acquire evidence.
How many people here is at risk of getting unlawfully apprehended by the government and risk lengthy jail time due to the contents of their smartphone? Or risk getting their precious personal info stolen by badass pickpocketers with free supercomputer power at hand?
 
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