You completely misunderstood it. You don't have to add yourself. The person eavesdropping has to add themselves, and you don't know about it. And they can even see your video. Let's say your phone is ringing, and you press the power button to make the call go away, and your camera turns on, and the other person can see everything. You don't notice that, because your screen is off, and you think you've cancelled the call. You could be straight out of the shower naked, and the camera is silently on.
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New York Officials Investigating Apple's FaceTime Eavesdropping Bug
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You completely misunderstood it. You don't have to add yourself. The person eavesdropping has to add themselves, and you don't know about it. And they can even see your video. Let's say your phone is ringing, and you press the power button to make the call go away, and your camera turns on, and the other person can see everything. You don't notice that, because your screen is off, and you think you've cancelled the call. You could be straight out of the shower naked, and the camera is silently on.
What you think might be more interesting if you based your opinion on the facts. YOU don’t have to add yourself. The caller/bad actor has to add himself. And FaceTime doesn’t go to voicemail.
My friends that I tried this with said they could not pick up the call. I was listening to them until I turned my phone off...
Upsetting an Apple troll, apparently.
I’m disappointed in Apple, and this was handled badly. But this is a screwup, not a sinister plot. It is in no way comparable to what Google and FB are intentionally doing to invade users’ privacy to harvest even more data. Apple is no saint, but does not deserve to be tarred with same brush about this issue.
Andrew Cuomo is furious! “Let me make this damn clear: no one violates the privacy of the citizens of the great state of New York except me!”
Used to have a manager shout "You don't see the big guys having these issues!!!". I have sent him email after email to his personal, work and the group dev account every time so major bug occurs. Amazon has gone down, Rackspace has failed, I tried ordering from Staples and the Cart page gave me a JAVA exception! and it never ends.
Btw, I got a fake C&D that the manager created stating I will be sue if I continue to email the group account (he's blocked me from all the other accounts)
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They should investigate all the medical software out there.
Apple was only about privacy because it didn't affect their bottom line, as they transition from a hardware company to a services company see how quickly their stance will change regarding privacy and data collection.
Yes, jail developers for missing bugs in their code. This bug required you doing something no normal person would ever do and it was disabled the same day he went public with it.
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Not sure that logic follows or we've seen evidence of that. I don't think Apple has to bend on privacy to make their services model work.
Let them investigate. What will they find? That's it's a bug and Apple dealt with the situation quickly with a patch to follow?
wait...Apple must be guilty......you have said numerous times here on MR if a company is being investigated...they are guilty or else they wouldn't be investigated. Haven't you said that about other companies? Why is it different for Apple?
But you loose voice when you start video feed, it’s not a “too”. An either or.
Yeah, Apple is guilty. Of releasing a bug. What is NY State going to find? That Apple did that maliciously with the objective of incorporating a backdoor that blew up in their faces? Much different than the anti-trust (sic) investigations of Qualcomm, of which there may be a reasonable premise to the investigation.
Can you imagine if Apple purposely did this ? That would be like the NSA going 180 degrees in "protecting the contrary"
That is not accurate. It had been over a week since the bug was reported to Apple. However, it had not been over a week since the reporting party went public with it. Apple did disable the feature within a day of it being made public.
Now ...you're back tracking...Wasn't Apple under investigation by the same agencies though? The DOJ....SEC.... numerous times....
Don't you presume Apple innocent until proven guilty...but then when Apple has a conflict with Qualcomm...you say Qualcomm must be guilty simply because they are under investigation.
Seems like your brand favoritism gets in the way of equal treatment.
The prior post was a restatement of a previous post in different language. There is also quite a difference between New York State "investigating" vs the SEC or some other governmental regulatory agency.
They should investigate Apple, probably to find out how this happened. If the testimony is not sealed.
But if I did say what you state with certainty, you should be able to show the post, where I was so definitive. (As opposed to stating an opinion)
Qualcomm is being investigated across the globe. The point is there must be some merit to these investigations, which is quite different from saying they are guilty of the alleged corporate behaviors. Again, I challenge you to find the post where anything more than an opinion was stated.
Our government has a very different opinion about that. They think that they are not just above the law, they are the law.It's as if elected officials all think that they've been granted summa potestas.Sorry fellas, but no one is above the law. No one.
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Tim Cooks response:
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On a positive note at least people will realize they have more phone choices. You can’t trust both apple or android so you might as well get the phone you prefer if you’re damned either way.Too late, Apple. I've already switched to Android where I know my personal information is kept safe!
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On servers overseas.Too late, Apple. I've already switched to Android where I know my personal information is kept safe!
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Here is the link and quote.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...for-2019-iphones.2164794/page-4#post-26999753
Just Google how many times Apple has been under investigation worldwide.... Tax evasion...to planned obsolescence to unfair business practices...products being banned from patent infringement
So there must be something to it all. If we apply the same conclusion to all fairly.....
Again....your brand loyalty seems to always give Apple the benefit of the doubt but not others.....