Agreed. These morons have no idea what's going on in the digital world. Why would anyone pay that much when are dozens of free options.
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New York Times' Print and Digital Units Reportedly Disagreeing Over iPad Content Pricing
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Agreed. These morons have no idea what's going on in the digital world. Why would anyone pay that much when are dozens of free options.
Majority of people are just simply going to switch to the free alternatives or just don't read news at all, they are not going to pay 30$ a month, plain and simple.
I want NYT to go 30$ a month, because they'll learn the hard way that they'll kill most of their revenue fast and will just lose majority of their customers that would be willing to pay 1-5$ a month.
I'm going to guess that NYT will do the "ESPN 360" agreements with several ISPs and provide free access for those customers.
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I don't blame the newspapers for experimenting with the paid subscription route. It takes a lot of money to run a newspaper, so why shouldn't they get paid? Ads don't take in a lot of revenue until you have an enormous amount of hits.
I know you can find free news on many other sites, but that doesn't mean that newspapers don't deserve to make any money. Also, a lot of times the sites that report the same news get their info from other, more well-known, papers.
If the quality of journalism is there, people will pay for it.
I know you can find free news on many other sites, but that doesn't mean that newspapers don't deserve to make any money. Also, a lot of times the sites that report the same news get their info from other, more well-known, papers.
If the quality of journalism is there, people will pay for it.
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Thanks Steve for price hike on eBooks. What next? Free news for money. Nice. Keep up a good work on your magical MAXIPAD!!!
If somebody was smart enough to pay for MAXIPAD, it should be alright to pay $20-$30 green backs for free news for each news provider. I do not see anything wrong with it. Nothing personal, it is business folks.
Thanks Steve for price hike on eBooks. What next? Free news for money. Nice. Keep up a good work on your magical MAXIPAD!!!
If somebody was smart enough to pay for MAXIPAD, it should be alright to pay $20-$30 green backs for free news for each news provider. I do not see anything wrong with it. Nothing personal, it is business folks.
It's about time that the old-fashioned publishers such as New York Times get off their high horse and embrace the reality: News in paper form will eventually disappear. Just like digital cameras replaced traditional film cameras. If they don't be aggressive towards digital market share now, it won't be long before it's too late to act. Look at Kodak and their digital division.
$20 to $30 per month??? Are they nuts? No one would pay that.
I think you'd be nuts to ask more for an electronic subscription then for a paper version. If the price is not lower the whole thing will not fly.
My Los Angesel Time subscription costs less than $10 a month and for that they print all that paper and deliver to my house .
I might pay $10 a month for eletronic delivery but not on a 10 inch screen. I will continue with paper until the electronic screen is as easy to read as paper.
I think you'd be nuts to ask more for an electronic subscription then for a paper version. If the price is not lower the whole thing will not fly.
My Los Angesel Time subscription costs less than $10 a month and for that they print all that paper and deliver to my house .
I might pay $10 a month for eletronic delivery but not on a 10 inch screen. I will continue with paper until the electronic screen is as easy to read as paper.
The home sub price is a lot more than $30 a month. I pay $23 for Sat/Sun delivery (I like to have a paper with my coffee on the weekend
)When it comes down to it, is ANYONE really gonna pay ANY kind of subscription fee for a newspaper on the ipad? A huge reason the newspaper industry is going down the tubes, is because we can now get all the news we would get in a newspaper, on the internet for FREE. And not only can we get all the information for free, but we can get it much faster than having to wait until the next morning to find out what happened the day before. If something newsworthy happens in the world, it's on the internet 5 minutes later. I mean, most newspapers probably sell because people just want something to read on their commutes to work. Now they won't need newspapers, they'll have all the news in the world right on their ipads...without having to pay a cent (besides cost of ipad and 3g service of course)
Sorry newspaper companies, you're just not needed any longer. Please clear a path for the ipad.
On the other hand...I'd be glad to pay a $20-$30 one time fee for a yearly magazine subscription on the ipad
Sorry newspaper companies, you're just not needed any longer. Please clear a path for the ipad.
On the other hand...I'd be glad to pay a $20-$30 one time fee for a yearly magazine subscription on the ipad
Why? You can't type in all three at once. The apps load instantly when activated, and if they save your current position in your document (they do) then there is no need for what is traditionally defined as "multi-tasking."
What background processes in Keynote do we need to keep running while working in Pages? What background processes in iBooks do you need to keep running? Maybe if there is audio content/text to speech? My guess is that will remain active just as iTunes remains active while doing other things. Also, if the instructor is pushing content to the students, that remains active in the background too, assuming you turn that on for each app in the settings.
In other words, the multi-tasking lament is not as cut and dry as it's made out to be. Yes, it's frustrating if you are playing a game and get a call and your game ends, but shouldn't the game coder save your spot so you can return to it? Why must the game start over, multi-tasking or not?
And it's totally frustrating that internet radio apps and such turn off and must be relaunched, but I would imagine that Apple is working hard to include a form of "media multi-tasking" for OS 4. We'll see.
Here is what they need to do....
1) Cut EVERYTHING that others can do for less. They don't need to report "news" CNN does that. What NYT can do is write analysis and longer pieces that don't need to change up to the minute. Do editorials. So in total you have about 12 pages of content.
2) Charge 1/2 or 1/3rd the price of the paper version. After all you have zero distribution and printing costs
1) Cut EVERYTHING that others can do for less. They don't need to report "news" CNN does that. What NYT can do is write analysis and longer pieces that don't need to change up to the minute. Do editorials. So in total you have about 12 pages of content.
2) Charge 1/2 or 1/3rd the price of the paper version. After all you have zero distribution and printing costs
You need it to implement "drag and drop". The other process must be there to accept the "drop" event. There are other cases where two unrelated application need to interact.
I think that the Minneapolis Star & Tribune at $15 a year is a great deal, but the NYT needs to rethink their ego. Sorry NY, you are not the center of the world.
Don't confuse NYT application with the actual newspaper. The NYT application is up to date constantly on the news and will include new opinions and other articles as it comes in. Not to mention it'll probably include videos, audios, color pictures and so on. That's the difference between the NYT newspaper typical price and this iPad application.
Crazy? No. Clueless? Yes.
First off, I am in the publishing industry. My previous employer also owned a newspaper, so I can testify how clueless they were/are about online media. The only thing they were more clueless about was making money.
That being said, while distribution costs are negligible, productions costs are not zero. Yes, the actual printing & paper costs are eliminated, but there still will be an additional cost for producing the online version. While much has been written about the iPad, very little has been revealed about content development for the new medium.
Thus ends my defense. NO ONE IS GOING TO PAY $360 per year. While it sounded like a great idea in the boardroom, it will fail. They need to go the other way, and charge a ridiculously low amount like $12 or maybe $25 per year. Price it low enough and it will become a game of numbers, as in volume. One only look at the example of micro-pricing as evidenced with the success of iTunes and the new fledgling Ap industry. Get 10 million subscribers and the amount starts to look respectable, and probably a lot more than they are actually making in profit now.
Get enough subscribers, and you also can make some more revenue with your online adverts. Get a paid readership of a few thousand customers, and no one is go to care enough to buy your ads.
First off, I am in the publishing industry. My previous employer also owned a newspaper, so I can testify how clueless they were/are about online media. The only thing they were more clueless about was making money.
That being said, while distribution costs are negligible, productions costs are not zero. Yes, the actual printing & paper costs are eliminated, but there still will be an additional cost for producing the online version. While much has been written about the iPad, very little has been revealed about content development for the new medium.
Thus ends my defense. NO ONE IS GOING TO PAY $360 per year. While it sounded like a great idea in the boardroom, it will fail. They need to go the other way, and charge a ridiculously low amount like $12 or maybe $25 per year. Price it low enough and it will become a game of numbers, as in volume. One only look at the example of micro-pricing as evidenced with the success of iTunes and the new fledgling Ap industry. Get 10 million subscribers and the amount starts to look respectable, and probably a lot more than they are actually making in profit now.
Get enough subscribers, and you also can make some more revenue with your online adverts. Get a paid readership of a few thousand customers, and no one is go to care enough to buy your ads.
