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Newton Mail for iOS and Mac is Back for $50/Year

nt5672 said:
The problem with Apple mail, much like all things Apple these days, is that Apple's design-to use case is a teenager that mostly tweets, instagrams, whispers, snapchats, etc. and has very little use for a full featured mail app. Especially these days where teenagers want their social exchanges deleted immediately. Apple mail is good for a half dozen emails per day, but not much more.
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For me, and I email quite a bit, Apple Mail + SpamSieve works just fine.
 
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nt5672 said:
The problem with Apple mail, much like all things Apple these days, is that Apple's design-to use case is a teenager that mostly tweets, instagrams, whispers, snapchats, etc. and has very little use for a full featured mail app. Especially these days where teenagers want their social exchanges deleted immediately. Apple mail is good for a half dozen emails per day, but not much more.
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Odd perspective, I use the Apple mail app exclusively on both my MacBook Pro and iPhone and manage to read, reply to, delete, and/or file 30-75 emails a day. And I'm about as far from a teenager as you can get and not be required to draw SS.
 
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Kabeyun said:
For me, and I email quite a bit, Apple Mail + SpamSieve works just fine.
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I also use Apple mail. Does not mean I like it or think it was an improvement. Why? Because every time I started using another better mail client, they went belly up, dropped Apple support, etc. After a few times of trying to recover or convert my email history, I just gave up. Apple did that by making Apple mail free. If it was not, then someone would make a better app that is sustainable.
 
nt5672 said:
The problem with Apple mail, much like all things Apple these days, is that Apple's design-to use case is a teenager that mostly tweets, instagrams, whispers, snapchats, etc. and has very little use for a full featured mail app. Especially these days where teenagers want their social exchanges deleted immediately. Apple mail is good for a half dozen emails per day, but not much more.
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Here is the thing, your right, but I know people who use Apple Mail for work. Although it is simple, I don't feel it is centered around teenagers. It displays emails, it gives us hyperlinks, and it does it all in a minimal, yet somewhat confusing, UI. I agree with you claim, but I do not see the teen-focused aspect of Apple. If they did, then we would have a cringey Apple social media.
 
MacRumors said:
Of course, with any third-party email app, it's always worth investigating privacy policies to see what companies are doing with your data. Newton says it may share aggregated or de-identified information with third parties and works with third-party social platforms like Facebook to serve targeted ads unless you opt out, which is something to be aware of.
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If I'm paying $50 annually for a mail app, the absolute least I would expect is to not also have my information sold.
 
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The word App Store in the article links to a generic thing on what the App Store is — really?!
 
If I hadn't found a replacement in Superhuman I'd be switching back right now. But after two months of searching I came across Superhuman back in September and was all in. Even in beta stage its user interface is just as good as Newton, but adds a lot more features and shortcuts.

And yes, some of us happily pay for email service. For one, it's a business write off so it saves me money when I get to the end of the year. And two, because I can fly through my emails, search faster, find attachments quicker, etc. I'm able to save time which means increased revenue. With that said, if I wasn't using email for business I probably wouldn't be paying for an app and I can understand why people are mind blown if that's not their use case.
 
I'm going to race right out and buy this for my Essential phone. /s
 
Paying money to send an email? I've never done this since forever. Not in 1995. And surely not in 2019. Not to mention paying the money AND personal info being sold for ads targeting to FACEBOOK. Lol.
 
I actually don’t mind paying something for an email app. I donate $2 a month to thunderbird to keep it going as I can’t bear the thought of Outlook being my only option on my PC and I’d be happy using an alternative on mobile too. That said if I’m paying I expect privacy and security as a total given not an opt in. Also that price is way over inflated still. The $2 / month mark is about my limit. One thing I would say is just because something is free as in money doesnt mean it is free, it can mean you are the product. Wouldn’t use this might use something else...
 
So they are charging you a hefty YEARLY fee and STILL sell your data and spam you with Facebook ads??? Kay...
 
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KarimLeVallois said:
I use FastMail for my domain email and they are great. Their app is pants though, so have to look elsewhere...
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I did the same. Came from Office 365 in fact, since I realised I could use multiple domains from 1 single account, with complete inward and outward capabilities. Fastmail is great. The app is, yes, pretty spartan and just a reflection of the web interface. They are focussing heavily on the mobile aspect only now, I guess.
 
macintoshmac said:
I did the same. Came from Office 365 in fact, since I realised I could use multiple domains from 1 single account, with complete inward and outward capabilities. Fastmail is great. The app is, yes, pretty spartan and just a reflection of the web interface. They are focussing heavily on the mobile aspect only now, I guess.
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I did the same, moved from Office 365 as I couldn't cope with Microsoft adding random folders to my IMAP structure! lol Plus they have great push on iOS devices, so was a no-brainer.
 
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Newton says it may share aggregated or de-identified information with third parties and works with third-party social platforms like Facebook to serve targeted ads unless you opt out
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So you pay $50 a year and they still serve you ads? Am I reading that right? If so, wow, who thought that would work?
 
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I'm terribly sad about this. Newton was a fantastic Mail app, absolutely worth the $39/year I had originally paid. When I heard it was back at $50, I was thrilled even at the higher cost.. Until I read their updated Privacy Policy.

Having gone from:

"All the information we collect from you is only used to give you the best possible experience using Newton. We don’t run ads inside the product or sell data to make money. We’ve built a good product and charge our users a subscription to run the business."
[Old Privacy Policy]

to

"We may work with third-party social platforms, such as Facebook, to serve ads to you as part of a customized campaign, unless you notify us that you prefer not to have information about you used in this way by sending an email to notices@newtonhq.com indicating the email address you wish to have removed from customized ad campaigns.
[Current Privacy Policy]

..is absurd for a product that charges any fees.
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What dimwit of a product manager do you have to be to charge an annual software subscription and serve ads on top of that?

There aren't (yet) a lot of people willing to pay a software subscription fee. And of the few there are, many of them do so in order not to get ads and/or a terrible privacy policy.

Congratulations, Essential Inc., you've once again destroyed your potential market segment.
 
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randomplaydo said:
If I hadn't found a replacement in Superhuman I'd be switching back right now. But after two months of searching I came across Superhuman back in September and was all in. Even in beta stage its user interface is just as good as Newton, but adds a lot more features and shortcuts.

And yes, some of us happily pay for email service. For one, it's a business write off so it saves me money when I get to the end of the year. And two, because I can fly through my emails, search faster, find attachments quicker, etc. I'm able to save time which means increased revenue. With that said, if I wasn't using email for business I probably wouldn't be paying for an app and I can understand why people are mind blown if that's not their use case.
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Hm. Can you refer me?
Where can I read their privacy policy?
 
I swore subscription models would never work but man, they never go away.
I don't see how this is feasible unless your company is paying for it and there would be no reason to do that with the robust free options.
If you are spending $50 a year to look at your private emails and spam, PT Barnum is pumping his fist in his grave today.
 
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