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Next-Gen Apple Pencil Could Work on Any Surface

So, now let's take Apple's argument regarding the blood oxygen sensor in the Apple Watch and say, "There isn't a product with that surface patent yet, so I can just ignore it. Patents only apply once the product has been unveiled."

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jnc said:
let me guess, you're not an artist
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I'm not an artist but use an apple pencil regularly for annotating documents etc. I've had to get three of the things (so far!) for different versions of ipads. I'd like just one that works on them all.
 
I really really would love a stylus that would work directly on the MacBook Pro trackpad. That would completely eliminate my need to carry around a crappy Wacom that has a 3 hour battery life and can only connect to Bluetooth when it feels like it, then pressure stops working for no reason requiring a restart (because their driver is absolute garbage) and the Wacom driver being the most unreliable piece of software ever written in the modern age. Yeah that would be so nice.
 
If one could use this on the trackpad or even the table the MacBook was sitting on, I would switch to an MBA and sell my iPad mini 6 and Mac mini m4 and have the one device for all my classwork.
 
akbarali.ch said:
Seriously, i'm not happy. from single iphone model to having 3 pencil and now 4th pencil in line. I'm really not liking bloating of the product line.

Few days back a Colleague came and asked me which ipad to get, this is a clear failure. if a customer is confused and that to a customer who is working in a gaming VR field, then this is an utter failure of the clarity once Apple had with its product line where things were so clear as to what to buy.

after being a Apple customer since 2008, i myself keep comparing features as to which one to buy. BAD!
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Yep…adding a ‘Pro’ model to an Apple Pencil is the height of Cook greed.
 
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The ancient 10+ year old laser system in the Magic Mouse doesn't even work on any surface, unlike Bluetrack, Darkfield etc
 
Apple Vision Pro... This is likely a pen for AVP. If it works for my Macbook aswell... SWEET!!!

I have painted in the Meta thing, it works! And it works well, this is absolutely an awesome addition. I was suggesting I should be able to use my Ipad Pro screen/pen combo within AVP, but this will work even better probably.


No, I am not going to buy a M2 Apple Vision Pro. If the M5 version comes 2025/2026... It is probably my next bigger investment.
 
doelcm82 said:
Steve Jobs was either

1) wrong, or
2) saying that no one wants a device that can't be used unless you have a stylus

I think it was #2.
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I think you’re right. The visual of someone slouched over using an Apple Pencil on a MacBook Pro screen or even a iPhone would probably not have been received well back then.
 
Xade said:
I'm not an artist but use an apple pencil regularly for annotating documents etc. I've had to get three of the things (so far!) for different versions of ipads. I'd like just one that works on them all.
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Of the three additional Apple Pencil models so far, probably only one was really initiated by Apple, and that was the move from Pencil 1 Lightning to Pencil 2 magnetic charging, which I think most agree was a good move. With no outside forces, Apple likely would have remained with those two Pencils, with the Pencil 1 staying around for the cheaper non-magnetic iPads. But the two subsequent Pencils—USBC and Pro—were likely initiated by the EU and Apple’s customers. The EU pushed Apple to make iPads USBC so Apple needed to replace Lightning Pencil 1 with Pencil USBC. And customers wanted a landscape camera for iPads which required a redesign of the Pencil 2 due to the subsequent change in charging mechanism. Apple also added more features and renamed it to Pencil Pro.

But as older iPads fade away, Apple will stop selling Pencil 1 and 2, and as it would have been, there will only be two options: a cheaper basic model compatible with all iPads (Pencil USBC) and a more expensive fuller-featured model compatible with higher end iPads (Pencil Pro). Basically digital artists should get higher end iPads and Pencil Pro. Everyone else should get any iPad and Pencil USBC, unless they really want a Pencil Pro with their higher end iPad too.
 
As someone who has wanted to be able to natively draw in macOS for decades now, I will be watching out for this product with great interest.
 
jnc said:
let me guess, you're not an artist
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true, I am not. But I still use my Apple Pencil for pdf annotations, Freeform and GoodNotes.
I’m not anti Apple Pencil, I’m anti adding another pencil to the already confusing lineup.
There should be 2 max, Apple Pencil and Apple Pencil Pro, and both should work with every iPad model
 
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akbarali.ch said:
Seriously, i'm not happy. from single iphone model to having 3 pencil and now 4th pencil in line. I'm really not liking bloating of the product line.
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Likely this would replace the existing Apple Pencils. The reason the Pencil lineup got confusing is that it was an afterthought. Steve Jobs expressly did not want the iPhone to use a “stylus” and the iPad evolved from the iPhone. Pencil support came later. Apple made a few bad design decisions with the original Pencil (Lightning port, cap) that boxed them into a corner when they introduced the iPad Pro with USB-C. They made another bad decision with Apple Pencil 2 by assuming the camera would always be in “portrait” that necessitated Apple Pencil Pro when they moved the camera to landscape. But now all current iPads are compatible with Apple Pencil USB-C and all but the base iPad work with Apple Pencil Pro.

This new Pencil might work with all current iPads, iPhones, and Macs.
 
Let me use it with the MacBook! Like a Wacom tablet... so we can draw in Photoshop/Pixelmator/Affinity on macOS. Would be great to have one Apple Pencil which you can use on macOS or iPadOS. Plus then could use it for DaVinci Resolve as well. So many applications! :)
 
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