good point about them wanting to sell apps from the new app store. i still think there will be SOMETHING with a price drop at least on the 32. have to wait till the end of summer i guess to see. and at least touchmod is working on a gps attachment 
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iPod touch next gen ipod touch. whats in store??
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I think they upgrade wireless to n instead of g. g is just too slow for my taste. Longer battery life is also possible.
However a larger memory capacity may be too expensive right now. Two 32 GB flash drives would cost you almost as much as the iPod.
I love the touch. It's capacity and screen resolution are the only things that are keeping it from perfection. The apps store and iPhome 2.0 software should more than make up for any flaws though
However a larger memory capacity may be too expensive right now. Two 32 GB flash drives would cost you almost as much as the iPod.
I love the touch. It's capacity and screen resolution are the only things that are keeping it from perfection. The apps store and iPhome 2.0 software should more than make up for any flaws though
I'm really hoping for a new backing. I'd like to see the anodized aluminum backing or at least some sort of scratch proof backing cause I hate the one it has now. Though I know for a fact I will not purchase a new one anytime soon.
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I agree, commercials are annoying, but I recall there are times when they have 2 hours of commercial free music or something. I haven't listened to radio since 2005 when I got my first iPod. Sometimes I do miss it though
I forgot to add, hopefully they'll change the scratch-prone back of the iPod touch to something else. I miss how scratch resistant my iPod nano was.
I do think they will update the iPod touch though, because in the past few years they always update all the iPods at least once a year, usually at the Paris expo. Battery technology might not have improved much, but there has been more energy efficient components since the iPod touch came out.
Oh, my bad! guess i shouldnt assume!
the only reason i still listen to some radio is to hear new stuff, but thats only 10% of the time
for those who want wifi N, it is a battery hog, and for the touch, there wouldnt be a notacable increase in internet speed, G is fine....
It would also be nice for a diffrent back, kinda like the knightcreations one
well, the wireless chip would cost more and there's not enough demand to spend to have it in every unit
64 GB is what I am waiting for. I don't NEED anything else in my new iPod execept that. As long as I can fit ~30 gigs of music and ~20 gigs of movies/TV shows, I'll be ducky. I'm holding onto my 4th gen 20GB Classic and praying that it doesn't conk out before October/January (whenever they give the memory boost) (it already has died at least twice but has been puttering along fine for the past 2+ years).
I also hate that black painted rim around the screen. If you scratch it off the metal shows gold and that doesn't look very attractive. Maybe they could use a different material.
802.11n would be pointless in the Touch. Its faster transfer speeds only benefit file transfers between machines on a local network. 802.11g speed is much faster than the average broadband internet connection can saturate, therefore the extra speed of n would be wasted on the Touch which only uses wireless for internet access.
Not to mention there's not enough room in the Touch to put the necessary additional antennas for wireless n.
The only reason I could see for 802.11n in the Touch would be to keep all-N networks from downshifting to G speeds when the Touch is connected.
Not to mention there's not enough room in the Touch to put the necessary additional antennas for wireless n.
The only reason I could see for 802.11n in the Touch would be to keep all-N networks from downshifting to G speeds when the Touch is connected.
Well beign that it is a multimedia device, and can be compared to computers in many ways. I think that is what they will concentrate on. Building it that way. Not as a phone. A camera may be posible buta GPS is probably not going to happen without an external device.
I think tht is something tey could focus on. Increasing what apps and external devices do together is something that is needed for a device of this sort to thrive. Imagine an external battery that could improve the life of the device while being minimal problem. Maybe even have a lace to put a memory card.
I think that is what they should focus on. Most of the tools are in place, but they need to emphasize what they have here is not just for listening or watching, but it is for doing things. It doesn't need to be a phone, but it can be something in it's own.
Also isn't bluetooth technically capable on current iPod touches? I mean all you have to do is have the right application for it, and also have something connected to the dock. Of course if battery life is your concern, I think if something like that were to come up, then I would expect somebody to make a small battery to cover for the bluetooth at the very least.
I think tht is something tey could focus on. Increasing what apps and external devices do together is something that is needed for a device of this sort to thrive. Imagine an external battery that could improve the life of the device while being minimal problem. Maybe even have a lace to put a memory card.
I think that is what they should focus on. Most of the tools are in place, but they need to emphasize what they have here is not just for listening or watching, but it is for doing things. It doesn't need to be a phone, but it can be something in it's own.
Also isn't bluetooth technically capable on current iPod touches? I mean all you have to do is have the right application for it, and also have something connected to the dock. Of course if battery life is your concern, I think if something like that were to come up, then I would expect somebody to make a small battery to cover for the bluetooth at the very least.
For the life of me I can't understand why anyone would think there would be GPS or 3G in the new iPod. Think about it, why would Apple create something that directly competes with the there own product? (iPhone) This makes absolutely no sense.
At most, you'll probably see a an increase in capacity, probably white/black and the only real option from the iPhone would be the camera, but that's a stretch.
At most, you'll probably see a an increase in capacity, probably white/black and the only real option from the iPhone would be the camera, but that's a stretch.
And considering the cababilities of the device alone if somebody wants to make a device to add on as a camera, I don't think there is anything stopping it.
Although bluetooth is something I don't see as hurting anything to do with the ipone. Really, it is just another way to connect and build things with. The more ways you can connect to something, the better, and should know that.
GPS : that's what ive heard
Camera : unlikely
Mic : No-Friggin-Way
64gb : perhaps, as usual
Price drop ? I personally dont think so. Maybe a price shift and 8Gb getting discontinued.
------- ***** I doubt a speaker might be added though. It's the most realistic simple feature. I mean, why not?!! there's so many apps that needs a speaker to have full effect. I'd love to see a speaker in the new touch too.
mic/speakers/camera: no, no, and no. apple isn't that nice, although i personally would love a camera. we can all dream can't we?
also, unless people were willing to fork over 1-3 GBs for maps data, GPS would not make itself onto the ipod touch. if GPS were implemented, would it need a different chip than the iphone has? or does the "assisted GPS" of the iphone have enough functionality to position without help?
and i think everyone is missing out on the single feature that, although it wouldn't complement apps, would be the single thing that would restore the touch back into full "media player" territory. external volume/playpause controls! either that or apple could introduce a sort of blind-touch system as people have discussed earlier.
possibly activation by double-tapping the sleep button, and touching once to play/pause, swiping up/down or left/right for volume and track skipping.
also i am a bit confused about the idea of a "price drop/shift." does this mean existing capacities are all dropped lower, capacities are upped and prices stay the same, or capacities are upped AND prices drop? i think it is the former two...
also, unless people were willing to fork over 1-3 GBs for maps data, GPS would not make itself onto the ipod touch. if GPS were implemented, would it need a different chip than the iphone has? or does the "assisted GPS" of the iphone have enough functionality to position without help?
and i think everyone is missing out on the single feature that, although it wouldn't complement apps, would be the single thing that would restore the touch back into full "media player" territory. external volume/playpause controls! either that or apple could introduce a sort of blind-touch system as people have discussed earlier.
possibly activation by double-tapping the sleep button, and touching once to play/pause, swiping up/down or left/right for volume and track skipping.
also i am a bit confused about the idea of a "price drop/shift." does this mean existing capacities are all dropped lower, capacities are upped and prices stay the same, or capacities are upped AND prices drop? i think it is the former two...
I am more than willing to dedicate 1-3 gb to maps data for gps. If they do this, I'm buying one immediately for myself.
While they're at it, they might as well add that camera too. Hardly costs them a thing.
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Well, the home page article this morning refers to new clearance notices at major retails for the Touch. There will be new ads this Sunday and if it's true we'll see those stores trying to clear out old product in anticipation of new models next month.
I'm expecting a new package, color backs, at least one hardware improvement (I'd prefer bluetooth, but GPS would be the Apple-Unique thing to do), and more memory for the same price points.
I'm expecting a new package, color backs, at least one hardware improvement (I'd prefer bluetooth, but GPS would be the Apple-Unique thing to do), and more memory for the same price points.
Does this silly argument never die? In what way does GPS make an iPod Touch into an iPhone? Unless you're using it to train carrier pigeons, GPS has absolutely nothing to do with a phone, and is singularly incapable of planting the Touch in the iPhone's market space.
As for 3G, I don't think anyone asked for it in this thread, and I've not seen many people asking for it in general, precisely because 3G *is* a cell-phone[1].
There are a bunch of things that could (not 'will', 'could') be added to the Touch without in any way harming the 'iPod' ethos, or competing with the iPhone. Many of these would serve to strengthen the app store since it would expand the market for apps that use features that are currently iPhone only. Quite a few of them will soon become standard in competitor products. A few of them could give Apple a way to leverage whole new market possibilities. Of the latter group, GPS is one of the most compelling, since many cars can be optioned with iPod docks, and a GPS enabled Touch, or iPhone that can seamlessly integrate with the car's audio system to provide audio alongside vocal turn by turn satnav, could be a real winner.
[1] Yes, I know you can use 3G as a data only service, but it requires a service plan, and I don't see Apple selling an iPod with a required service plan. Not, because it'll allow the 'pod to compete with the iPhone, but because the iPhone would at that point too effectively compete with the Touch. In other words, it'd be an expensive feature that very few people would ever use. More likely is that Apple tweak the OS to allow ethernet over USB such that the Touch could use 3rd party 3G USB dongles.
1-3GBs that I can selectively assign to GPS maps, or music/video, and not pay an extra couple of hundred dollars for a Garmin? Done deal.
Don't forget, a GPS enabled Touch would be a new purchase, not someone with an 8GB G1 wondering if they really want to sacrifice the space. If, hypothetically, I was in the market for a 16GB Touch, and a sat nav, why wouldn't I just spend an extra hundred on the Touch, get the 32GB model. i save a hundred bucks, and I get an extra 12 GBs to boot. That's a winner to me.
It'd be standard GPS, I imagine, I.E. no assisted. Your lookups would take an initial half a minute or so to get a fix. So, where with the iPhone, it'll get a rough fix in seconds, then a more precise fix a short while later, the Touch would act just like any normal car based GPS system, where when you first turn it on, it takes some time to get itself orientated.
I think that people need to be realistic about the touch. It's a great device the way that it is. There is no need to bump the wireless to n other than for range however n isn't even an IEEE standard as of yet so I really don't see that happening as I don't think that there's a need for the increased speed on the iPod touch.
Storage: This is the area that the touch could actually use a boost. Being that the nanos and touches are being given away to students at the moment I see both products being updated in September. My thought is that the touch will be available in a 16 and 32 GB model at the $299 and $399 price point. The iPod Classic however is becoming outdated and I can actually see it being replaced by a fatter iPod Touch with a 160GB hard drive. I have a couple reasons for seeing this as a likely outcome:
As for anything else coming to the iPod touch I don't think that anything will be changing really, they have the iPhone for the do everything device and I don't think that they'll be willing to have the iPod Touch take any of the draw away from the iPhone with things like GPS.
Either way I'm excited for the September announcement as I'm thinking that there will be some exciting products.
Storage: This is the area that the touch could actually use a boost. Being that the nanos and touches are being given away to students at the moment I see both products being updated in September. My thought is that the touch will be available in a 16 and 32 GB model at the $299 and $399 price point. The iPod Classic however is becoming outdated and I can actually see it being replaced by a fatter iPod Touch with a 160GB hard drive. I have a couple reasons for seeing this as a likely outcome:
- The app store: Apple wants the app store to grow even more and this would be another device to make use of it as it would be replacing the iPod classic and would therefore take that market share.
- Video space: The screen on the iPod Touch is a great size for video and I for one have plenty of video to fill up any of the current iPod touch offerings (if you include my music I'm starting to push the limits of the current hard drive sizes in the iPods).
As for anything else coming to the iPod touch I don't think that anything will be changing really, they have the iPhone for the do everything device and I don't think that they'll be willing to have the iPod Touch take any of the draw away from the iPhone with things like GPS.
Either way I'm excited for the September announcement as I'm thinking that there will be some exciting products.
iPod Air.Thinner? Jeebus, if they made it much thinner, they'd have to rename it the iPod paper
I don't want to pay $2000 for a contract, period.
iPod touch with speakers and GPS.
iPod touch nano with ≈3" display, no speakers, no GPS.
These are my realistic predictions:
8 GB $249 (maybe), 16 GB $299, 32 GB $399
Design change to match the iPhone (no plastic though)
Possibly improved battery life
No other changes
I'm really hoping it's just the standard price drop/storage capacity increase. I've wanted one for a while, but been held back by the fact that if I wanted to put my music collection on one, it'd have to be the 32gb, and that one's just too pricey. I won't buy a traditional iPod because they still use hard disk drives - I don't want that thing tumbling around in my pocket.
I have a 4gig 2nd-gen nano - just need something with a bit more storage. I really hope they move back to something resembling the old design with the nanos though - the 2nd gen was perfect! They really need to get rid of those mirrored back panels on the ipods, they scratch so easily and look like crap after a couple months.
I have a 4gig 2nd-gen nano - just need something with a bit more storage. I really hope they move back to something resembling the old design with the nanos though - the 2nd gen was perfect! They really need to get rid of those mirrored back panels on the ipods, they scratch so easily and look like crap after a couple months.
I want them to change the look. Leave the screen the same size, but make the case unique to differ from the iPhone. Change the corners to a tiny radius. Reduce the top and bottom black area around the screen. Put a textured fingerprint-proof back on it.