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It's also possible that Apple is ready to release a new iPhone AND a new iPod with a different form factor around Christmas. Same software, just better camera specs and a different form factor.

It makes sense with the naming. iPhone 3Gs was just a minor improvement to the 3G get something out of the door a year later. If Apple didn't release anything at WWDC 2009, Apple stock would have plummeted. They had to release something.

Boy, that would piss off people who bought the 3Gs!
I have major doubts they would release a new iPhone so soon
 
Not revolution, but evolution. A revolution is when the iPod Touch came out. An evolution is when the third-gen iPod Touch comes out later this year.

I think Apple understands that people won't upgrade as often as they release new generations. Wasn't it "only" supposed to be every two years or something?
Yes there is nothing revolutionary in the touch line now or in the future, a camera maybe but that is a fairly minor improvement and nothing to make me want to get rid of my gen1 touch, Now an ipad type device with a larger screen and aimed at internet access and game playing would be revolutionary and would have me opening up my wallet to get. I think Apple knows this.
I think it's coming just when is the question.
 
Maybe 64 Gb, Camera Video, Voice Control iPod, Compass.... OLED screen.

We might get a speaker at both ends of the device as well....and a bit of a re-design... perhaps that bezel that was sprouted from that HK parts vendor..

it will have the same screen as the iPhone does, so no OLED. And two speakers? What for? That would be waste of money and space. On what are you basing that guess on?

It's always funny to see people list their favourite dream-features as the "likely upgrades" for the next version. I would like to get gps, but I don't think that's likely.
 
I have major doubts they would release a new iPhone so soon

well i think they might.... if all the investigations bout Phone exclusitiity blow over and AT&T's contract of exclusitivity expires and apple goes to Verizon for example, then i think Apple will have a new desighn to draw in people from Verizon to get the iphone..... and i shure as helllzz know i will if this happens!
 
I might think that the CPU would no longer be throttled back from 833mhz to 600mhz like the current 3Gs currently is.

IMO, that would be a mistake. Developers already have to profile games for the slow iPhone 3G, faster Touch v2, and fastest iPhone 3GS. Adding another performance optimization level would be silly, even if battery life is less of an issue.

Additionally, I am upgrading from a Touchv1 to a 3GS, and I want the fastest app processing and gameplay on any device!
 
I don't think most people would upgrade their PMPs each year even if the upgrade was bigger. Sure, some people like to have the latest and greatest, but for most, just having a PMP doing what you want - and doing it well is enough. Cost, of course also comes into consideration. It may be hard to justify an upgrade each year, even if one easily can afford it.

Also, I don't think Apple really expects people to upgrade every year. More likely, they plan for people skipping generations. (e.g. iPhone -> iPhone 3GS). The point beeing that over time, the willingness to upgrade becomes greater.

I'm also skipping 3GS because I have the 3G-version and really can't justify an upgrade at this time.:)

Apple doesn't expect people to upgrade every year, but that's their goal. In fact, tons of people who had the 3G now have a 3Gs. The bottom line is that if you already OWN an iPod/iPhone you're less likely to purchase another iPod/iPhone than some other person who does NOT currently own an iPod/iPhone. Apple has already achieved most of the latter market, and they need to focus on the former - getting people who already own these devices to buy new ones. They need to create a new "need" somehow, and it's getting harder for them to keep making things revolutionary.

For example, if you had a 3 or 4G iPod, it was very easy to get people to upgrade to a 5G -- you get a nice color screen, video, photos, etc.

If you had a 5G iPod, many upgraded to the iPod touch (even though the storage capacity wasn't quite there).

If you had a 1G shuffle, you may have upgraded to the 2nd gen one.

If you owned the original iPhone, you probably wanted to get a 3G seeing as you'd get big features like 3G, GPS, etc.

If Apple can't attack the "already own an iPod" market they will run out of steam.

So if Apple adds a camera to the new nano, they have a good chance of getting people to ugprade from 1st/2nd gen iPod nanos.

They will thus need to come up with more attractive upgrades. Remember the transition between iPod mini and iPod nano? The difference between the 2 devices was drastic, and the transition went well. However, if you look at another transition, such as 3rd gen to 4th gen iPod, it just wasn't the same.

Yes I believe that is the case! But nothing is written in stone here. Apple has also stated that they want releases of products when they are ready thus no more Mac World.
Dave

I'm glad MacWorld is done in that I feel their launches will go over more smoothly now. However, it's disappointing because keynotes were very exciting.

Regarding the product lifecycle - if another member can confirm - I recall reading about a Phil Schiller interview where he said September is iPod month and June is iPhone month. September has been iPod month for the past little while and June has been iPhone month, too.
 
Curious...

Did it really take 2 months for Pinch to data mine the logs to 'stumble upon' the "iPod 3,1" iPod entries... or was that so as not to distract from the 3Gs launch... :rolleyes:
 
and also who in their right minds rates these things negative?

I've posted that same question over and over!

...and always entertaining to see one ambient guess responded by another :D

Seriously, "I have no more knowledge of this than you, but I'll mock you for what I think is wrong".


Anyway, I have a 3rd Gen ipod, the 5 gen was not enough to make me switch, the TOUCH should've been enough, but apple had to go with a flash drive only product, and then keep making them slimmer as if that's what everyone wanted...

So FINALLY there will be a Touch with more capacity than my 5 YEAR OLD IPOD!!! That is really inexcusable. I'll be getting a Touch soon!
 
Will the 64 GB ipod touch cost the same as the 32GB ipod touch? Apple might just want to raise the prices.
 
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