Can't wait!! We have had an ATV for years now, it's had it's unreliable moments but only because we have been using Plex with it, we settled on a newer ATV3 not long ago and it was well worth the extra screen resolution! Works great with Plex Connect.
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Next-Generation Apple TV Said to Launch in October for $149 or $199
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lol I thought this looked quite cool option for XBMC etc but then I read the reviews - boot problems, updates, "works eventually"..etc etc
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Apple's fourth-generation Apple TV will be released in October with a starting price of $149 or $199, according to 9to5Mac.
Article Link: Next-Generation Apple TV Said to Launch in October for $149 or $199
$149 sounds like the sweet spot for the new AppleTV. I wish the streaming service was available also. It's time to dump DirecTV.
What NAS do you own? I own a DS214play. The issue for me is subtitles. DTS/AC-3 can be transcoded fine by the NAS, but as soon as you enable subtitles, video transcoding kicks in, and that's too much for the NAS to handle.
Shhh, don't tell them that, what, are you trying to give your money away.... Millions around the world live for a year on less.
I just want a native plex client and I'm good. $149 is okay if it can do casual livingroom gaming as well
This is where something like the XboxOne and PS4 have blurred lines. $399 gets you a much more powerful box that can do full gaming, has all the same streaming optins and more.... and full app stores. (X1 will also run Win10 in a few months and Win10 apps). You can also already put Plex on Xbox One. All the apps you'll see hit the app store are things you can also get from Windows store already. Once you hit a $200 option (gonna bet $149 without gaming controller and $199 with gaming controller) you are almost better off just springing for a console unless you have no desire to game.... and than if you are that person, $60 for the old ATV or getting a Roku (which has far more to offer at this current time than ATV) would be your best option.
That was what I was thinking, I have a Chromecast, but haven't really messed with it since I bought it. My Apple TVs are so much easier to use.
I couldn't ever see my parents learning to use Chromecast, but they love the Apple TV I gave them.
I don't see it as cutting down the clutter, we'll at least compared to the current Apple TV. The Apple TV has a remote learning feature that you can program you TV remote to use with the Apple TV. So that means only one remote.
I still don't get why someone would want to use their phone, you have to unlock it each time you want to pause. A stand alone system just seems a lot better to me.
We might have the same TV. I agree that for streaming it is a good TV (I use mainly Netflix). It is miles better than the "state of the art" Philips I had before. That TV was more expensive but had so many issues that I took it back after a year of headaches. Most mind-numbingly stupid smart TV I have ever seen.
I think TV makers should stick to what they do best (making panels) or acquire really good interface and workflow specialists. But sadly they are not willing to invest in this at all.
Another area is the apps. Some providers invest quite a bit in this (e.g. netflix), but the lion's share of them see it as an afterthought, resulting in bad UI, buggy performance and inconsistent process flows.
I would love to have a dumb TV again with great image quality, where a third party device does all the user oriented stuff such as channel selection, channel sorting, settings, smart functions, apps etc.
I was thinking about that, but alot of reviews say it is slow plus only one USB port, only 2 GB of RAM
I have fiber in my building, but it is $120 a month and I would never need that speed. I stream HD/4K and anything over 18mpbs does that just fine. I think apple is having issues with a streaming service b.c they need the right channels and the right price. $40 is a lot to ask for 20-30 basic cable stations.
well with 4k streaming it makes sense they are focusing on the apps. Is the only 4k streaming device (stand alone) still the sony fmp-x10?
This is also the reason Sony invested in Android TV.
Exactly, it is the difference between a device that can do "everything" and a more focused device that is more "limited". The windows stick might be great for tinkerers, but the Apple TV should appeal to most of the people that just want things to work with spending hours twiddling settings and troubleshooting.
Henry Ford said that all his customers would say they wanted was a faster horse. Thus, there is no automotive industry. Right?
For that tiny percentage of the population that wants to spend their time configuring Windows systems instead of just watching TV and playing App store games. Apple makes tons of money ignoring those types and selling easier to use stuff to the rest of us.
Developers don't care about your demographic. There's a vast number of other people spending well over a Billion dollars a month in the App store. That's who Apple wants to connect with app developers.
I've had to deal with Comcast's customer "service" department. I'd rather give my money to Apple (or even Amazon) for any video content that I want to pay for.
http://9to5mac.com/2015/08/31/apple-tv-gaming-siri-bluetooth-remote/
Apple TV 4: Gaming and Siri will be major focuses, expect Bluetooth game controllers + enhanced wireless
Apple TV 4: Gaming and Siri will be major focuses, expect Bluetooth game controllers + enhanced wireless
Why would anyone still use a huge, clunky, outdated, slow, and expensive STB from a cable company if there was a better and cheaper alternative?
mine is a Samsung 4K, and it streams from a couple 4K sources, one is amazon prime's service. But to be honest, in a number of shows, the HD is free, and the 4K stream is a few dollars - in those cases, I'd go with free because the higher end Samsung do a super job of up-scaling HD to UHD.
I don't want an Xbox. I would never use it enough for gaming to get my money's worth. If the new AppleTV does Airplay, has a faster processor, an app store, Siri integration, and 4k, for me, $149 would be a no-brainer. If it did cost an extra $50 for the controller, I would go ahead and get it. I might like to put on an arcade style game for some quick stress relief...even though I am not a "gamer".
The Nvidea Shield is selling for $199. I think that would be the main competition.
Most people who have an interest in games are satisfied by something more like Angry Birds on their mobile phones. The percentage of the population who needs games that push the GPU of a PS4 is getting pretty small. An A8-based game rig will be good enough for the bulk of the population, including those who spend Billions on iOS App store games.. with a price equal or lower than that of a subsidized iPhone or iPod Touch.
A gen 4 Apple TV may put the same screws to the big budget Xbox/PS gaming industry that the iPhone (and Android) did to Blackberry, Symbian and Brew developers. I wouldn't depend on their being as much new content for your $300+ game console in a few years.
Nice thread so far. Here's a theory:
Tim wonders "How much should we price this thing?" The Project Manager groans, then leaves the meeting. Getting back to the cubicle, the PM yells to one of his subordinates "Hey, go fishing and call that guy over at 9to5Mac and "leak" a pricing range of $150 to $200 and let's see what kind of blowback we get on the web." The call gets made, and the leak is parroted on Mac sites with forums. Mac forums blow up over the weekend with features and comments on pricing.
Meanwhile, back in his castle, Tim sits back and reads a transcript of the comments and feedback, then calls up the PM and says "Nice marketing ploy! Now, add some more memory to that damned thing or we're going to sell about 75 of them."
Tim wonders "How much should we price this thing?" The Project Manager groans, then leaves the meeting. Getting back to the cubicle, the PM yells to one of his subordinates "Hey, go fishing and call that guy over at 9to5Mac and "leak" a pricing range of $150 to $200 and let's see what kind of blowback we get on the web." The call gets made, and the leak is parroted on Mac sites with forums. Mac forums blow up over the weekend with features and comments on pricing.
Meanwhile, back in his castle, Tim sits back and reads a transcript of the comments and feedback, then calls up the PM and says "Nice marketing ploy! Now, add some more memory to that damned thing or we're going to sell about 75 of them."
Agreed. I chatted (talked, actually) with one of their programmers earlier this year - he offered that he despises the programming API, preferring other platforms like the Tivo Roamio and iOS. Tivo moved to an Opera-based API about a year ago and some of their apps are much nicer to use than my ATV (even better with the Slide Pro remote that I'm using now). With a real Amazon Video app on my Tivo now I'm finding that I hardly fire up my ATV any more.
Oh, and one more wish, if it hasn't been mentioned here before - a frickin' unified login/authentication portal or sign-in screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, I've been thinking about making the switch to Roku for that very reason, outside of the occasional screen sharing, I really only use it for Netflix.
