I already have two people in the my office that opted for new Dells (one to replace his MBP) because they offer 32GB of RAM. I am myself struggling using VMs because 16GB is the max I can go for. Meh.
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Next-Generation DDR5 RAM Will Double Speeds of DDR4 RAM as MacBook Pro Remains on LPDDR3
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But I want the fastest memory possible so I can win on the lottery! 
Maybe this is the delay in getting the NEW Mac Pro - mine has DDR2 RAM.
Maybe this is the delay in getting the NEW Mac Pro - mine has DDR2 RAM.
yay?Good news for Mac users, Apple will update the lineup to DDR4 once the DDR5 is available in the market for 2 years. No matter how you look at it for Apple an upgrade still an upgrade.
LGA 1151, was when DDR4 was first made available;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1151
and While i was wrong about Broadwell supporting it, DDR4 and 1151 was still launched in 2015, which means DDR4 has been mainstream for 2+ years at this point.
Yep that is correct. You were suggesting Broadwell in 2014 before which is all I was challanging. The first Desktop Skylakes were available from August 2015, so DDR4 in the mainstream is still less than 2 years old at this point.
in IT land, 2 years is a long time
I admit i was wrong on Broadwell, But still, DDR4 has been the standard for 2 years, and 2 generations now of Intel CPUs (Skylake and Kabylake), and has been available in standard kit form for 2+.
this was just countering the original poster I responded to who said DDR4 kits were new and just becoming available. Which is wrong. it's been available as standard memory for 2 years. Which means Apple's computers not using DDR4 isn't because of lack of availability, but some other decision making processes
Whats the capacity of the RAM youre using? Cause ya, 16GB might not be enough for that particular application. Which goes back to the point I was making about making the MBP a little thicker and putting 32GB of Mini-DDR in it instead of low power RAM.
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I must have misunderstood your post. I apologize. I agree completely that people are complaining about something that is not hindering their performance one bit.
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It doesnt do much. RAM capacity is far more important when using memory hogging applications. In the gaming world there are dudes who are obsessed with OC'ing their RAM and usually all it does is increase FPS by 2 or 3 frames, and causes system instability.
my dear friends let's be realistic a year after DDR5 hit the market then that is when apple "MR Cook" is going to start putting DDR4 in their Macs, that is if we still have Macs by the year 2020
i just hope Tim is not the CEO by 2020
also DDR4 start at 2133 then it goes to 2400 2666 etc
so if apple decide to put a DDR4 in a mac late in the game then they should put the fastest speed available not the older first generation, "the lowest one"
so before apple put a DDR5 in their MAC they have to put a DDR4 first
i have 2133 that was the first DDR4 speed available when DDR4 came out, the good news is that i can OC that to 2666 tweak the timings and boom faster RAM for free
man you guys should try iram disk for rendering if you have a slow hard drives
i can also run games off iram disk
i have a super fast raid card but i don't like wearing them out
that's why i use iram disk to give the SSD a rest
macs have limited ram so you can't create a big iram disk
that's why having more gigs of ram is important
anyway to close this up don't jump quick into the first generation of DDR5 wait bit until the technology matures, price drop and goes down. then you will get faster speed for less money
i just hope Tim is not the CEO by 2020
also DDR4 start at 2133 then it goes to 2400 2666 etc
so if apple decide to put a DDR4 in a mac late in the game then they should put the fastest speed available not the older first generation, "the lowest one"
so before apple put a DDR5 in their MAC they have to put a DDR4 first
i have 2133 that was the first DDR4 speed available when DDR4 came out, the good news is that i can OC that to 2666 tweak the timings and boom faster RAM for free
man you guys should try iram disk for rendering if you have a slow hard drives
i can also run games off iram disk
i have a super fast raid card but i don't like wearing them out
that's why i use iram disk to give the SSD a rest
macs have limited ram so you can't create a big iram disk
that's why having more gigs of ram is important
anyway to close this up don't jump quick into the first generation of DDR5 wait bit until the technology matures, price drop and goes down. then you will get faster speed for less money
Sorry, I know this is a couple of days old, but genuine question here:
"Desktop RAM" as in it's not the specific LowPower. But they are SO-Dimms, obviously. And having set up a few Skylake Lattitudes, they are excellent portable computers.
I'm not dogmatic about this. If Apple is saying they're not going to re-engineer their line just yet for marginal RAM improvements only to lose battery life, I get it. I'm not one to think Apple plays games with customers as much as they are actually dedicated to standards they have to make the software and machine integrated.**
**At a markup I am not fond of, and swaddled in marketing that leaves me jaded.
Similarly, Dell deserves praise for making giant improvements in their line of laptops. Their XPS and Lattitudes are well-made machines. And while Apple can say they tailor their OS to their hardware, Dell and Windows 10 have upped the ante for the Windows experience. This is all in my anectdotal experience and humble opinion.
What was the point of this pseudo news? Yes, DDR5 will come. Yes, they mentioned it won't be available in quite a while so there's no point whining Macbook Pro will still be in DDR3 because no other computer will ship with DDR5 now or in the near future. Or possibly even in the far future.
What comes to DDR3 vs DDR4, that was the only reasonable decision. If they can't use low power version of the DDR4 there's no point in using it. The battery in the 2016 MBP is a joke as it is. It'd be more fit for a pocket calculator. They should pull their heads out of their ... well, you know.. and make a computer someone can actually use. Still waiting for one version and then probably jumping to X270 or something. Actual, real life all day battery is a must for me. Currently I make do with a x220 hackintosh which does the job much better than the new MBP with 1/10 of the cost. And it has a better keyboard, too. Too bad the touchpad isn't even near Apple level but then again, a slightly worse touchpad is ok if you can actually use it all day compared to a perfect touchpad which runs out of power halfway through.
What comes to DDR3 vs DDR4, that was the only reasonable decision. If they can't use low power version of the DDR4 there's no point in using it. The battery in the 2016 MBP is a joke as it is. It'd be more fit for a pocket calculator. They should pull their heads out of their ... well, you know.. and make a computer someone can actually use. Still waiting for one version and then probably jumping to X270 or something. Actual, real life all day battery is a must for me. Currently I make do with a x220 hackintosh which does the job much better than the new MBP with 1/10 of the cost. And it has a better keyboard, too. Too bad the touchpad isn't even near Apple level but then again, a slightly worse touchpad is ok if you can actually use it all day compared to a perfect touchpad which runs out of power halfway through.
Intel's next-generation Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake processors do not support LPDDR4 RAM beyond ultra-low-power chips, while Cannonlake processors expected by early 2018 are not designed for the MacBook Pro.
I've been holding on to my 2011 MacBook Pro until a worthy upgrade and this is the first time in almost 20 years that I think I'm starting the transition back to PC. Starting to feel like Apple thinks I'm a complete idiot.
I've been holding on to my 2011 MacBook Pro until a worthy upgrade and this is the first time in almost 20 years that I think I'm starting the transition back to PC. Starting to feel like Apple thinks I'm a complete idiot.
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