Apple isn't equipping their current lineup with the latest tech? Thats weird
Apple.... is not the same company. They are just into making money and no creating productive products. They are just creating fancy useless stuff.
They have no need to come up with a Mac Pro or a new iMac... for what? we are already making billions, if we need some push we could release an iMac or something but no reason to play our best cards if we are winning any way.
I don't think it'd be that fast.Apple isn't equipping their current lineup with the latest tech? Thats weird
It depends what you are doing. I run electromagnetic/optical simulation software and depending on the size of the structure I am simulating and the grid spacing it can consume a great deal of memory and the memory speed is more of a bottleneck than the processor speed.Intel has been the pinnacle manufacturer in the CPU industry for how long? 10 years or more? There is a reason for that. And if Apple wants to design an APU that will allow for LPDDR4 in the MBP they can go right ahead, but they will charge $5k for it and it will do nothing but fall short of every future Intel chip to come. I dont understand why everyone has their panties in a wad over RAM. You get a good CPU with great caching capabilities and you dont need the latest and greatest RAM. There is a reason Apple did what they did. That doesnt excuse the ridiculous price tag for the MBP however...
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Well said. And many feel that Ryzen STILL doesnt beat Kabylake...
I know people always want the latest and the best, at leas that's what it says on paper.
But I'm typing this on the maxed out 2016 macbook pro model and I don't get the complaints.
I'm a very very heavy user, and the software management of MacOS is just great. My windows computer which in theory should be much faster (desktop i7 (5ghz), 32gb ddr4 ram, gtx 1080).
while in reality my macbook pro feels much faster for programming and video editing, i only use windows for gaming.
Back to the point, the macbook pro is just a beast, and i wonder if people ever use max ram/cpu for a long period of time, cause for me everything seems to go quite fast.
Lets just cut to the chase.
Apple no longer care about Macs and any they do produce are no more than fashion accessories.
The only decent model left in the Mac range is the 27" 5k iMac which Apple will no doubt destroy in the next revision.
Apple.... is not the same company. They are just into making money and no creating productive products. They are just creating fancy useless stuff.
They have no need to come up with a Mac Pro or a new iMac... for what? we are already making billions, if we need some push we could release an iMac or something but no reason to play our best cards if we are winning any way.
Intel processors don't support LPDDR4 yet, Kaby Lake only supports it on ultra-low power, and Cannonlake has no plans for it, Apple's hands are tied in this part.
Desktops are another matter entirely.
Yes, I agree RAM is not the choking point here at all, it is just an easy target for people to jab at. That's sort of the point of my post, hope you didn't misunderstand. I wasn't critiquing Apple, but rather the inept article and especially the headline - talk about fake news!!Again....the CPU
Again...the CPU and its caching capabilities are far more important. You really want to replace Sky or Kaby with an ultra low power CPU just to get the latest standard of RAM? I dont think you'll be pleased with that result...
I think this will only happen at this point if Apple can show off benchmarks showing they can outperform Intel chips...being "good enough" or "equivalent" won't cut it to convince non-hard core Apple users, i.e. the general consumer.The title if this article is pretty inflammatory, and it sounds like alot of people posting in this thread didn't get past the headline.
From reading the article thiugh, I think this just gives apple more reason to move away from Intel, and maybe on to their own solution (ARM?) for their laptops and maybe even desktops at some point.
Incorrect. The mainstream socket 1150 was ddr 3 only. You may have built them but it would have been workstation class only. Take a look at Wikipedia page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1150I'm convinced that Apple could have killed the Current MBA.
Used the current MacBook Pro as teh new "Air"
and then released a more robust Pro that also hits everything the "PRO" people are screaming about. Keeping it with 3 computers in their lineup
MacBook for the ultra portable crowd
MacBook Air 2 for those looking for the thin and light with decent performance and the touchbar
MacBook Pro 2: where Performance is #1 and "thin and light" take a back seat
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Incorrect:
you could get DDR4 on B, Z and X chipsets starting in 2014 on broadwell. (I have built several machines as early as 2014 using DDR4)
that's why i build a hackintosh, i like macs and i love mac os but the problem is not the price, the problem is that i can't update the hardware the way i want.
Apple isn't equipping their current lineup with the latest tech? Thats weird
except almost everyone else is already on DDR4
And for power draw, DDR4 = LPDDR3. LPDDR4 will be even better overall, but keeping DDR3 for LPPDDR3 is absolutely a money saving item and has nothing to do with power draw / performance.
Mid 2012 MacBook Pro with retina: that was a great machine. Intels laptop-ready processors have not improved much since then. Very hard to justify buying a MacBook Pro. I'm hoping Apple move to inhouse chips ASAP. Otherwise I'm stuck on an iMac next time (talking pro machines).
Apple doesn't believe in updating their computers, so why bother reporting on tech advances anymore?