who watch BR more, the consumer or you, the elite professionals? what you would need is BR authoring, not a BR-Rom; but of course you know that, being a Professional.
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Next-Generation iMac: Quad-Core Processors? No Blu-Ray?
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I'd rather just go buy a Blu-Ray player..because I would want a bigger screen if I am going to watch Blue-Ray.
if you look at sales charts-BR movies have been left in the dust by DDL-plus-never caught on as a storage medium;
2009 Q1&2 sales from Videobusiness and Videoscan show:
DVD $5 Billion
Blu Ray $410 million
DDL $900 million---> the BIG surprise-and death knell
rental break down is similarly distorted 90% DVD vs 10% BR
ive heard of some stores electing to freeze, or cut back the BR sections altogether YMMV
ALL disc sales are dropping-but BR have pretty much plateaued-and fizzled out at less than 10% of the market-see the writting on the wall?
SONY hasnt gotten the wake announcement yet
ya never thought about WHY there are all these up to 50% off BR firesales constantly?
A media analyst from same noted that "The sub $100 BR player may have come too late for BR-as retailers hysterically move "Black Friday" or sales prices of them from Nov/Dec 26 to Oct 15-" they are NOT waiting-not that id would want one-theyre featureless;
There is a good reason APPLE had delayed-or may never add BR to its line
2009 Q1&2 sales from Videobusiness and Videoscan show:
DVD $5 Billion
Blu Ray $410 million
DDL $900 million---> the BIG surprise-and death knell
rental break down is similarly distorted 90% DVD vs 10% BR
ive heard of some stores electing to freeze, or cut back the BR sections altogether YMMV
ALL disc sales are dropping-but BR have pretty much plateaued-and fizzled out at less than 10% of the market-see the writting on the wall?
SONY hasnt gotten the wake announcement yet
ya never thought about WHY there are all these up to 50% off BR firesales constantly?
A media analyst from same noted that "The sub $100 BR player may have come too late for BR-as retailers hysterically move "Black Friday" or sales prices of them from Nov/Dec 26 to Oct 15-" they are NOT waiting-not that id would want one-theyre featureless;
There is a good reason APPLE had delayed-or may never add BR to its line
I agree completely. I have over 80 Blu-ray discs, it would be nice to not only watch them on the Mac but also to be able to rip/convert them for playback on a home media player, my iPhone, etc.
thanks all for the Clarksfield info! if this iMac does come soon, and it hopefully will, i already have a buyer lined up for my current iMac and will get one.
LED display will be nice too
LED display will be nice too
You must not have watched HD content on an Samsung 8000 series LED HDTV (1080p). It is AMAZING!Though on an iPod or a smaller TV (42 and less) I find that HD content is overkill.
Well, its not like the leap from VHS to DVD as the physicals haven't changed. If you have the right equipment, its a generous improvement. Blu-Ray is also, slowly, becoming the format of choice for many people who simply don't want to buy 2 versions of the same film. More important for portable users, I would think, than iMac.
What a total misrepresentation of reality. The numbers you quote for direct download include all rentals, video on demand, etc.
Blu-ray players are still in GREAT demand. $100 prices will push adoption rates over the top.
Agreed. At this point, I really think Blu-Ray should be an option and not to have it will be a mistake.
The current high end penryn runs $851 so that is not that big of a jump. The 1.7 Clarksfield would be an improvement over the current 3.06 penryn and this list price is ~$300 less.
I think Apple will just start using the processor code numbers like other manufacturers i.e. 720QM, 820QM, 920XM etc.
As far as marketing is concerned all they've got to say is Quad-core i7 and they will be fine.
I highly doubt Apple is going to put the Core i7 chip in the iMac. The Core i5's make WAY more sense. The platform (chipsets) are cheaper, the CPU is cheaper and uses less power and can be faster at times due to the built-in Turbo mode.
Core i7 is left to the enthusiast crowd. Core i5 will be in the iMac.
Core i7 is left to the enthusiast crowd. Core i5 will be in the iMac.
No, not most by far. That said, you just acknowledged a reason blu-ray supporters want blu-ray in their macs. And no, blu-ray discs >>> digital copies any day.
Granted on a smaller screen, like that on a macbook, the differences may be wholly subtle, but on an external display or a 24" imac, please give us blu-ray.
What's so special about watching bluRay on Mac versus HDTV?
What's so special about watching DVDs on a Mac versus SDTV?
Maybe nothing, but they obviously adopted DVD format a long time ago, so why are they stopping with the logical evolution of optical media? Prices for players and drives, not to mention liscencing and royalty rates have gone down since the birth of blu-ray, which is making the format less of a "bag of hurt" with every passing year.
There's no reason why Apple can't even offer a BTO option at this point in the game now.
Please, if someone has watched BluRays on 32" or smaller AND on 46" or larger HDTVs, please let me know of the difference. 1080 NOT 720.
Perceptually there should be a LARGE difference between small displays and large displays...
Perceptually there should be a LARGE difference between small displays and large displays...
Considering PCs had Quad Core since 2006 and since last year Quad core processors have became standards in desktops PCs, I fail to see how putting a quad core in an iMac (and being 2 years late to the party) is going to rain crap on Windows; well unless you live in Apple land where no one would watch videos on iPod and PowerPC will doom Intel... oh wait...
PS: Mac OSX Snow Leopard has one thing that Windows doesnt have and that's iDelete! This feature alone that frees up HDD space is worth switching to macs
If they do use Clarksfield you know they are going to use a dedicated ATI or NVIDIA graphics card. I don't even think there is an integrated graphics chip that will work with Clarksfield.
Apple has a vested interest in Blu-ray. Otherwise, they wouldnt still sit on the Board of Directors and continue to participate in voting, pay the yearly fee to remain a member, etc.
Everything has to fall in place eventually. Theyve held off on substantially updating DVD Studio Pro and iDVD for years. With Snow Leopard, they purposely didnt bother updating DVD Player or Front Row. Matshita (their favorite drive manufacturer) has just now got decent slot-loading BD-R drives available. The licensing has been ironed out for the most part. Their video cards now support HDCP.
Its just a matter of time.
Everything has to fall in place eventually. Theyve held off on substantially updating DVD Studio Pro and iDVD for years. With Snow Leopard, they purposely didnt bother updating DVD Player or Front Row. Matshita (their favorite drive manufacturer) has just now got decent slot-loading BD-R drives available. The licensing has been ironed out for the most part. Their video cards now support HDCP.
Its just a matter of time.
Blu-Ray and DVD. If you watch Blu-Ray at home, you need to buy the DVD to watch it on your Mac (assuming its not a dual-BD/DVD disc).