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First, if they are targeting the "semi-professional audio/video crowd," then a matte screen MUST be an option.

Second, Blu-ray is not going to happen, especially if Apple if trying to lower the cost of an iMac. Think about it. Also, why would you watch a blu-ray on an imac, unless you're hooking it up to your HDTV?

The current iMac is a SWEET device, and the only thing that would improve it is a better mouse, more memory out of the box, and a better graphics card.

Remember, the iMac is NOT a professional device, but it is pretty darn close to one.
 
Look, Blu Ray is cool looking but so doggone hyped. At the movies, you are watching 35mm slides at about 30 frames per second. Listen what I said, you are looking at 35mm slides. That is what High Definition has been trying to achieve. Back in the day, the goal was to make television quality like that of 35mm photographs.At the movies you have what high def wants to be. Yes, movies are high def.Hello! And a bad movie like Show Girls was bad no matter what resolution(IMHO). And think about Broadway and off Broadway plays and musicals that have flopped! What is more hi def than natural light hitting your retina?
Bad is bad. So lets get off the freaking Blu Ray gripe wagon.

Watch both a BD and a DVD on a 60" screen. The difference is astounding. 35mm film might have higher resolution but that doesn't account for the conditions of the individual theater. Poor lens focus, bad lens, weak lamp, dirty/speckled film print, etc.

Why do you think more and more theaters are abandoning the supposedly superior film experience and going to 4K digital setups to get people back into the theaters?

I only want to buy one copy of a film and if the film is worth owning I want the best quality I can possibly get for both the picture and the sound. Currently that is Blu-ray. I don't want to have to buy the movie on Blu and then buy it on DVD also so that I can watch it on my Mac or rip it to watch on my iPhone.

However, this is what studios want. They want you to buy multiple copies and versions of movies so that you've purchased one for each device/format you own.

If the Mac had a Blu-ray drive not only could I watch my BD collection on it but I could rip those movies for use with my other gear.
 
AFAIK, a revision of the iMac G4 introduced a widescreen display.

EDIT: Got beat to it by mambodancer.



1. That's China, not the the US. Plus Toshiba gave up and nobody wants to buy a failed format, just like most people prefer to stay away from car makers that went into bankruptcy.

2. That's just Apple. HDDs are still a little expensive for a few, especially portable ones.

And a Blu-Ray has a single format, so it works on all Blu-Ray-equipped devices, whereas HDDs can have many formats that to the layperson may be confusing.

Blu Ray is just not catching on like Sony hoped it would. They won the format war and decided to charge far too much for most people. Another proprietary debacle for the company that has tried and failed at it many times before.

In the mean time, the Chinese have adopted and are running with HD DVD, selling them for much less and gaining much wider adoption than Blu Ray is.

The difference between Blu Ray and HD DVD is minimal. If HD DVD returns at an acceptable price, it is going to give Blu Ray a run for its money.

Given the choice, I would rather not pay for a Blu Ray drive, I've found downloading HD content works better for me than purchasing $35 BRay discs.

It's widely expected that content delivery is going to be achieved through the internet anyway, so it would make more sense to go with the cheaper option.
 
Features:

1. Slightly cheaper (1-300)
2. Slightly faster ("special" Penryn)

Nothing more. No nonsense Blu-ray, no radical case change, maybe not even LED screens.
Fixed that for you.

AppleInsider said:
Meanwhile, Apple is simultaneously said to be working on an industrial design overhaul for the iMac line which could arrive as early as this year, possibly as part of the aforementioned refresh. This much has not been corroborated by insiders with any degree of certainty, however. Indications would point to slimmer, sleeker designs akin to the company's relatively new 24-inch LED-lit Cinema Display.
I'm not too surprised at a possible redesign. A slimmer design may mean CPU TDP is limited to something below the current 55 W (Penryn equivalent).
 
Blu Ray is just not catching on like Sony hoped it would. They won the format war and decided to charge far too much for most people. Another proprietary debacle for the company that has tried and failed at it many times before.

Don't forget PS3 games are on dual-layer BDs. That's a main reason why Sony won the war.

In the mean time, the Chinese have adopted and are running with HD DVD, selling them for much less and gaining much wider adoption than Blu Ray is.

The difference between Blu Ray and HD DVD is minimal. If HD DVD returns at an acceptable price, it is going to give Blu Ray a run for its money.

IMO, Blu-Ray sounds way better and futuristic. And it is already here, the players are coming down in price, and the storage is amazing: 50 GB on a dual-layer. HD-DVD only got to 30 GB.

Given the choice, I would rather not pay for a Blu Ray drive, I've found downloading HD content works better for me than purchasing $35 BRay discs.

That's great for you, but for people like me who only get 90 KB/s at most, that is not feasible.

It's widely expected that content delivery is going to be achieved through the internet anyway, so it would make more sense to go with the cheaper option.

I do not share that belief. I believe discs are here to stay, at least until there are 1 GB/s or faster internet connections, good applications to facilitate control of the media, and ethernet or 802.11 built into TVs.
 
Blu Ray is just not catching on like Sony hoped it would. They won the format war and decided to charge far too much for most people. Another proprietary debacle for the company that has tried and failed at it many times before.

In the mean time, the Chinese have adopted and are running with HD DVD, selling them for much less and gaining much wider adoption than Blu Ray is.

The difference between Blu Ray and HD DVD is minimal. If HD DVD returns at an acceptable price, it is going to give Blu Ray a run for its money.

Given the choice, I would rather not pay for a Blu Ray drive, I've found downloading HD content works better for me than purchasing $35 BRay discs.

It's widely expected that content delivery is going to be achieved through the internet anyway, so it would make more sense to go with the cheaper option.

So many falsehoods ... where to start.

Okay, a BD player, right now, that is profile 2.0 compliant can be had at Best Buy (a major US chain) for $98. That's not much more expensive than a DVD player.

Movies don't cost $35. The last several titles I purchased cost under $10 and were major releases (Casino Royale, etc). Even my preorder for the classic Gladiator is only $22.95 from Amazon with free shipping and that is considered a MAJOR re-release of a huge film. I routinely pick up brand new releases for under $25 shipped.

It's well worth it for me to pay a few dollars more than the DVD to get the better quality of BD. If you check you will see that iTunes downloads, which you seem to be championing often cost as much or more as the movie on BD. The difference being that when you buy the Blu-ray movie you actually own it. When you download it on iTunes you simply have a version of the movie that won't play on anything else.

You are completely off target on price. Keep it up and I'll start posting links that show how foolish you are being. The only way downloads are cheaper is if they are illegal ones such as downloading Blu-ray rips through Bit Torrent.

As far as your assertion that HD DVD is catching on in China, Americans (and Europeans and the Japanese) simply don't care. HD DVD is dead here.

More importantly, the studios don't want to deal with China because piracy is rampant. No one wants to buy a movie in China, they want to buy an illegal knock off burned in crappy quality that they picked up at out on the street for $2.

It was recently estimated that US companies are losing over $47B a year to piracy in China and India. Microsoft recently announced that they can't make money in the Chinese market because piracy is common place, accepted, and there is no copyright enforcement.

So, ya, HD DVD can do as much as it wants in China it will have no impact in the Western world.
 
To me it is obvious they are talking about 1) bluray and 2) a matte screen option. Both are doable by this fall and don't require a case redesign which isn't coming this fall.

This represents the fall 2009 updates which will have typical speed bumps perhaps price adjustments but no quad-core.
 
First, if they are targeting the "semi-professional audio/video crowd," then a matte screen MUST be an option.

Second, Blu-ray is not going to happen, especially if Apple if trying to lower the cost of an iMac. Think about it. Also, why would you watch a blu-ray on an imac, unless you're hooking it up to your HDTV?

The current iMac is a SWEET device, and the only thing that would improve it is a better mouse, more memory out of the box, and a better graphics card.

Remember, the iMac is NOT a professional device, but it is pretty darn close to one.

It is no where near a professional device! Please do not pass on this horrible info. It is an outdated, over priced toy.
 
To me it is obvious they are talking about 1) bluray and 2) a matte screen option. Both are doable by this fall and don't require a case redesign which isn't coming this fall.

This represents the fall 2009 updates.

We still need to see evidence of Blu-Ray support in Snow Leopard. So far there is zero evidence of Blu-Ray support in the next generation OS beta loads that have been tested.
 
It is no where near a professional device! Please do not pass on this horrible info. It is an outdated, over priced toy.

Well, my 24" overpriced Apple branded toy runs rings around the super high end gaming Windows based PC that it replaced. It excels at running a multitude of tasks smoothly and powerfully. I can work on photos in Lightroom while listening to movies in iTunes and periodically checking blogs and email. All better than my PC could ever do.

Not to mention sitting on my desk and making no noise of any kind while I am working with it.

Something that can't be said for any PC I've owned in the past 15 years.
 
You guys don't agree, that's fine, but I don't think Blu Ray is worth the investment. Dismissing HD DVDs come back is asinine, because it is fronting a challenge to Blu Ray.

HD DVD returns and kicks Blu-ray to the gutter

Just when Blu-ray thought it had clear sailing, a tempest has risen in the East: China Blue Hi-definition Disk (CBHD). Toshiba has licensed its HD DVD to them and it will be the unit world leader in HD optical technology in just 12 months.

Why? The Times Online reports that the CBHD players are outselling Blu-ray in China by 3-1 and the CBHD disks cost a quarter of Blu-ray.

There is still the issue of content delivery moving entirely online, which is a much more efficient method of delivering content.

Blu Ray is just not as attractive as it used to be. I don't think it is worth it. Large numbers of consumers don't think it is worth it, the rate of adoption for Blu Ray is far behind what was hoped for.
 
Bluray + matte screen.

Personally, I'd like to have the option to switch between them, but meh.
 
Finally, 2 button mice out of the box. Mighty mouse doesn't count.

I agree. Mighty mouse is long overdue for an overhaul (been around unchanged for about 4 years). I used to have one but returned it because the darn thing can't right click if you are still resting your finger on the left button. And don't get me started on the side buttons.
 
Well, my 24" overpriced Apple branded toy runs rings around the super high end gaming Windows based PC that it replaced. It excels at running a multitude of tasks smoothly and powerfully. I can work on photos in Lightroom while listening to movies in iTunes and periodically checking blogs and email. All better than my PC could ever do.

Not to mention sitting on my desk and making no noise of any kind while I am working with it.

Something that can't be said for any PC I've owned in the past 15 years.

Well I really like my several macs, but I have to say you must have just owned bad PC's then. iMac's, Mac Pros, whatever, they use the same (if not worse) parts that "PC's" use. And if you spent 2 grand on a PC vs. 2 grand on an iMac, not only could you get a machine that trounced the iMac, you would get one that did so to the Mac Pro as well.

Your PC honestly couldn't edit photos and "listen to movies" at the same time and do it smoothly? What were you running, a pentium III? There is no way in [heck] that it was a "super high end gaming" machine. Nope, no way.

This just seems like FUD, nothing more, nothing less.
 
It is no where near a professional device! Please do not pass on this horrible info. It is an outdated, over priced toy.

I'm not sure if you were agreeing with me or not. The iMac is not a "professional" device, but it is still a very nice machine. Don't fool yourself. I hope you are not basing your opinion on gaming.

Regardless, I know plenty of design firms that are stocked with iMacs and colleges that use them to teach video editing/film.
 
You are aware that all iMacs since the original G5 (possibly earlier, but I can't remember) are and have been widescreen, right? :)

I mean REAL widescreen 16:9 aspect ratio which, NO, they are NOT! ;)

P.S. The iPhone also is not 16:9 and it should be. How can it be the king of media devices when it is not even true widescreen?
 
Well, my 24" overpriced Apple branded toy runs rings around the super high end gaming Windows based PC that it replaced.

Hate to break it to you... The Mac you trumpet is no more than your typical PC in a fancy case. I bet my aging "PC" in my signature could run circles around your iMac and it cost probably half of your investment.
 
My take:
  • Better Video - Possible
  • BluRay - Possible
  • Desktop Processor - Possible
  • Different design - Other than thinner or maybe loosing the chin, don't see it.
  • eSATA - Don't see it
  • Firewire 1600/3200 - Don't see it
  • Matte screen - Possible
  • SD slot - Possible
  • USB3 - Don't see it
 
Awesome great news! I am looking forward to getting a new iMac when i7 comes and this will be even better :D

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Matte for gods sake apple way way overdue.

While nice that would not leap into the "compelling" range. We all have to think larger than blu ray and matte. I guess that's why Apple does so well. They often think beyond their customers.
 
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