interesting.... time will tell if these rumors are true; i'm still waiting for my powerbook g5
I have one in the marketplace. Go check it out.
I'm selling it because it will weight the unicorn down too much as it flies me to the moon tonight. 
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I have one in the marketplace. Go check it out.
I'm selling it because it will weight the unicorn down too much as it flies me to the moon tonight. I don't think we have see benchmarks for Envy 15 yet. There, I would kind of beg to differ about the Envy 15, as its not really a gaming laptop, its a bit more of an entertainment laptop(has Monster Beats Audio system). Its a bit like the MBA(as it also has no optical drive, and is thin for its class). I would like to think with its standard battery it should be around 4.5 hours as I hear with the extended it should be getting close 6-7 hours.
i agree, let us see (non gaming) laptops and that might clearly tell the battery performance.
Yea, I gave up on ever being able to ever scroll up again with my mighty mouse. It seriously pisses me off that this great giant company cannot make a simple device...a mouse...properly. It is the little things that stumps them. I am ok with the right and left click, just do something about the scroll wheel...DAMMIT!
I am very much looking forward to the new iMac by the way, did not want to be the one throwing this thread off topic as I rant and rave about the Mighty Mouse.
I was excited to read about a Quad Core iMac, but did not realize that a Xeon chip would be too hot for a slimmer iMac. I am no engineer, so that was surprising for me to read. I am all for a BluRay player/recorder. I think Jobs' statements about BluRay are idiotic to say the least. How in the hell can BluRay be a big bag of hurt? It has not hurt me...I love BluRay!
Yes those are desktop ones, and the price you pay at Newegg is the retail price. Apple would buy from intel in a large order and get better prices. You can see a basic list of prices in batches of 1000 on intel's website. There is an i7 mobile processor for $384 (720QM)but it is only 1.6 GHZ.
I don't see what the issue is with it being a 1.6ghz, these will still be faster, and use that power more efficiently than a 2.8ghz Core 2 DUuo BTW these new intel cpu dont use FSB standard any more.
Throw in the SD adapter for micro-SD cards (that many micro cards come with) and you have another multi-million device body of devices (phones. Photos/music/video without having to mess with some sync program.) .
Then throw in that the current CF standard is at a dead end (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_flash#CFast). Largely because SDHC is now at the stats that CF was. CF isn't the card format to target if want broad coverage.
It looks like the Turbos on Clarksfield are 2/8/9.
So that's 266 MHz for 4 Cores, 1066 MHz for 2 cores, and 1200 MHz for a single core of Turbo Boost.
Yeas I agree the 1.6 Clarksfield would be faster then anything we have now. What I was getting at is you can have a 45W Clarksfield for $384 running at 1.6 GHz (Turbo to 2.8) or a 45W Xeon (L3426) running at 1.87 GHz (Turbo to 3.2) for $284. The Xeon makes more sense.
Can the Xeon disable cores? If so that that is a good point. I don't why Apple can't give us a Lynnfield Core I5 quad in the imac. That should be even faster than Xeon and Clarksfield with out turbo mod.
The Xeon L3426 is essentially a rebadged i5 without hyperthreading disabled. The Xeon would be faster then the i5 at the same clockspeed.
Yes it can disable cores. The turbo is even more aggressive then clarksfield or the i5 at 2/9/10. That is 2.14 Ghz 3 cores/3.06 2 cores/3.2 Ghz 1 core.
Anything based on Nehalem or the Westmere architecture can shut down the cores to a C6 deep sleep state and overclock one, two, three or four cores in some cases if there's enough thermal overhead.
The latest Xeon 55xx and 34xx are Nehalem.
http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-029908.htm
http://www.intel.com/technology/turboboost/
Is this Xeon a desktop cpu, or mobile cause the i5 I was referring to was desktop. Just trying to clear it up a bit. Are these Xeons then using the 1366 socket then? I guess for some reason I was thinking you guys were not referring to newer Xeons that just came out.
Xeon is tailor more toward the workstation and server markets but in the uniprocessor sense they are just the standard desktop versions with ECC RAM support.
A LGA 1156 based Xeon X34xx will work in a P55 board even if it's not called Core i5/i7 8xx. They're all based on Lynnfield.
Clarksfield is power optimized Lynnfield for the mobile environment. The better chips get sent to mobile while the hotter ones go to desktop or server.
The Xeon is actually designed to be put in very small 1U rack mount servers or small office servers, i.e. low power. It uses the LGA 1156 socket.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors#.22Lynnfield.22_.2845_nm.29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynnfield_(microprocessor)
Really? So, then performance difference should not be that significant?
I thought I read somewhere that the new workstation cpu/Xeons were using the 1366 socket? Is that wrong?
Clarksfield and Lynnfield at the same clocks are identical. You're just going to toss around prices for thermal performance and clock multipliers.
The Xeon X34xx/L34xx series is just Lynnfield with ECC RAM support and the low voltage variants.
So, Clarksfield would not have lower performance because it's a mobile cpu then?
Why not put an express card port on it instead?
I really do not want a low end camera card port on it... that may become useless as new SD standards are implemented in the coming years.
With an Express Card reader, you and plug in any module you want to. So many options - SD reader, eSata, CF-or USB 3.0-(soon). I know it will not happen, but it would still be an awesome feature - since we could tailor the system to our needs, not what Apple thinks we need.
I really do not want a low end camera card port on it... that may become useless as new SD standards are implemented in the coming years.
With an Express Card reader, you and plug in any module you want to. So many options - SD reader, eSata, CF-or USB 3.0-(soon). I know it will not happen, but it would still be an awesome feature - since we could tailor the system to our needs, not what Apple thinks we need.
It's just lower clocked to meet the thermal requirements and higher priced for that too.
If you drop a Lynnfield down to the same clock speeds it will spit out the same performance as Clarksfield.
Does the -field and -dale make sense for a quad core and dual core? Intel's code names aren't that bad this time around.
Conroe
Wolfdale
Clarksdale
Kentsfield
Yorkfield
Lynnfield
Merom
Penryn
Arrandale
Penryn-QC
Clarksfield
There is a new SD standard coming out called SDXC, which wont be compatible with current SDHC readers(and I am not sure a firmware update will help).
I agree, I think Apple figured out that most consumers didn't use the express card slot because most of them couldn't figure out what it was, i.e. that you could buy a reader. So they just switched to a consumer recognized port.
They should have just stocked express card readers in the apple stores, maybe even designed them to match the MacBook Pros then just sold them as accessories like the DisplayPort Adaptors. I think 90% would have bought a reader with their MBP.
Where does bloomfield fit in? Which is the dual cores or are these all quad cores?
A bit OT, but what is interesting is I have seen in a Honda CR-V an express card slot(from factory). Not sure what it really used for, unless its for a express card slot memory to playback music and videos? Odd considering we are assuming Apple thinks many consumers have not use for it, but a company like Honda thinks we may have a use for that slot. I know in some Audi's you get one or two sd card slot to play music.