Where is the built in CF slot for the iMac and MacBook? SD slots are a nice addition, but why forget about a CF slot? Almost all the PCs I have used have them. I hate using card readers.
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Next-Generation iMac With SD Slot, Quad-Core, Possible Xeon? New Mouse and Remote in Pipeline?
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1. Quad core/Xeon/hyper-megathreading-$@#$$-hypertransport whatever
2. Much thinner
3. New cooling technology
I dunno, I just remember something about new cooling technologies being explored by Apple. You never know. They changed up the battery game, after all.
2. Much thinner
3. New cooling technology
I dunno, I just remember something about new cooling technologies being explored by Apple. You never know. They changed up the battery game, after all.
If it is true i might purchase one. Not that i need a new Mac, but it would be really tempting.
Next generation ? 3 or 4 years after pcs had quad core ? Can Apple afford to fall that far behind.
Clamoring ? For things to happen faster on their computers ? Yeah, lots of people clamor for that.Why thinner ? To keep up with Steve ? It's a desktop. It needs to be thicker by about an inch to have proper desktop components that are faster, will run cooler with a proper sized chassis and less expensive than using mobile components.
But the way things have been going the last couple of years, you're probably right.
I'm waiting to give Apple my money.
Seriously, a triple post? Well it didn't beat your quadruple from earlier in the thread....
Anyway, I love how everyone talks about what it takes to be a "proper" desktop as if there is some sort of set rule or even close to a consensus in the industry. Apple does its own thing and it works great for millions and millions of people. Clearly the industry has taken notice that average consumers don't need the sheer horsepower in many of todays systems, otherwise they wouldn't be taking their exploratory steps into the labels "nettop" and such. There are atom and ion desktop solutions that work beautifully for the average person. Many of us nerds and spec jockeys here fail to consider that we are in the minority when demanding top of the line cutting edge technologies.
3 or 4 years after PC's had quad cores? The Mac Pro has had a quad core for as long as I can remember.Next generation ? 3 or 4 years after pcs had quad core ? Can Apple afford to fall that far behind.
Why thinner ? To keep up with Steve ? It's a desktop. It need to be thicker by about an inch to have proper desktop components that are faster, will run cooler with a proper sized chassis and less expensive than using mobile components.
But the way things have been going the last couple of years, you're probably right.
Oh and people wanting things faster is fine but no one should actually NEED a quad core for simple editing. If you are actually using it as a workstation then you should've got the Mac Pro.
The last thing Apple will do is make it thicker. That's basically backtracking by their standards.
You know I wasn't refering to workstations. The iMac is not a workstation.
How do you know what anybodies needs are except your own. Major case of personal projection.
To keep making computers thinner until they disappear like Steve. Why ? Are we running out of space ? Does everybody live in a closet sized apartment in Japan. Apple's design anorexia is seriously compromising the functionality of it's computers. Would an inch thicker iMac be the end of the world ?
Because the iMac is not targeted at people who need to use it for a heavy workload. Like someone stated, MAYBE if Apple were to release an iMac Pro or something along the lines then it would be plausible, but I don't see that happening. The iMac is not targeted at people who need quad cores. It's not personal projection, it's Apple's projection.
Listen, you are looking at things from your perspective. Apple just put up an environmental section on their website comparing their iMacs and making it thicker would not in any way shape or form fit on that page.
My home Mighty Mouse is still going strong after more than three years, and the work one after 1 year. Wash your hands.
this post would suggest that the overwhelming majority of mac's market is exactly what the PC kiddies say, either ignorant users who fall head over heels for good advertising or yuppies who care more about their computer looking good in whatever the 21st century equivalent of the sitting room is than what it does.
even though we're 'spec jockeys' here, as you say, we also have at least some understanding of price-to-performance. i think the idea that anyone here wants their imac to post some sexy benchmarks or whatever is a complete red herring. thats clearly not what an imac is for & we all know it (if it can, all the better, but thats really the pro's job). the people complaining (if i can speak for them, since im one of them) just dont want to be ripped off.
anyway, if we could see a $999 imac & an up-to $2999 imac pro, as someone suggested, wow. that would be heaven.
Then Again, for many Moons now, not just a few
-liking folks have been clamoring for an -Puter which fits exactly in-between the MacPro line and the iMac line..With the Economy currently on the <<blink>> and money getting scarcer, Apple is prolly flexible enough to have been capable of adjusting it's "projection" in accordance to our 'changing times'..
A souped-up MacPro in the hands of genuine still-active (bidness-wi$e) power-users pays for its pricy-ish self in a cost-effective moment of time.
Meanwhile, there are those of us who will not or can not fork over a barrel of hard-earned loot for a Snappy MacPro, YET, who likewise, back in March/April '09, did NOT want to purchase an iMac which, even when juiced to it's hilt, could be bettered in some real - and significant - ways by less-dear PC's..
We - In-Betweeners™ - are now - a distinct niche in Apple's galaxy: and Apple being Apple (and therefore smart..), prolly knows about us..
Therefore, I've my money a-waiting for that soon-to-be-released
Power iMac! Right Apple? +++
That's not entirely true. The iMac uses mobile components for a number of reasons, not the least of which is to make it a nearly silent (or silent) computer when doing normal tasks).
Additionally iMacs have pretty good components by mobile standards. C2 Duo chips yes, but they are the Extreme versions with the biggest cache possible, they offer higher end video offers than other all in one computers.
The iMac is actually a pretty powerful computer for the 'all in one' segment.
The addition of an LED backlit display (and maybe a larger one) is a must at this point.
Certainly the features that would heat up the airwaves would be Blu-Ray and an i7 Quad Core chip, the real question is if it would sell more machines since those components would drive the cost of manufacturing at least another couple hundred dollars.
Needs? Pretty easy to assess that. Are Macs selling? Yes. Apple is actualy selling *more* Macs in a recession, despite the availability of cheaper alternatives. Clearly, we've moved beyond raw specs into a stage where consumers consider many other factors, including form. People who buy them and are satisfied (and overwhelmingly, they are, year after year) are having their "needs" met.
If you want to generalize, then generalize from the facts available, taking into account the largest segment of Apple's market.
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That's a whole lot of "needs" being met.
Your first problem is that you think Apple doesn't know what it's doing and doesn't understand consumers. Obviuosly, the exact opposite is the case. Then again, if you think imacs are "crippled" to begin with, then you're wasting your time. They are what they are, and they are incredibly successful being just that. Might as well hang out on Winsupersite.
How? Even a netbook will do the job that your average person needs today, albeit a bit slowly. You don't need the highest end hardware to do what a normal consumer does.
How is buying for your ACTUAL needs ignorant? I find it ignorant to suggest that otherwise.
i agree completely, the point im making is that paying $1000+ over the price necessary to satisfy those needs is either ignorant on the part of the consumer or a tremendous leap of luxury. the latter is fine & a matter of choice (albeit one that i definitely dont want to make), the former i feel sorry for, if those people are actually out there (i dont know any, but they may be).
Its ignorant to spend the money you see fit to get the experience you want? Better go tell all those people with expensive cars/houses/etc, after all you can get the "equivalent" for MUCH cheaper right?
I feel that all the little touches completely justify the price I paid for my 13"MBP, you don't get them anywhere else. I believe a computer is more than just the spec sheet, its more about the experience, while the hardware is merely a part of delivering that. I'm so much happier with my computing experience that I can barely believe it, computing is fun again.
Look, we know you don't like to be disagreed with. I understand.
In three years of selling Macs I've switched several hundred pc users to Macs. And you ?
i think were basically in agreement, maybe missing each others points. im not rich but i paid 3K for a computer i dont 'need' a few months ago & would gladly do so again at later date. that was my decision & theres nothing partic. wrong with it.
the point im making is that at the upper end of the non-pro spectrum, the costs become unjustifiable imo. there is a massive difference b/w paying $1200 for middling hardware on an otherwise great machine (like a 13 inch mbp), & $2500 for superior middling hardware on an otherwise great machine. right now the upper-end of the imac & macbook pro spectrum are simply terrible consumer decisions. they do not offer enough bang for the buck & are multiple years behind the hardware curve. this is just a fact. if you want to pay the $ for them, thats completely your choice, of course. im not going to make fun of anyone who does, though i would try to convince them not to before they did. its just the fact that apple relies on these people, whether they are making the decision informed or no, that gets them mocked by people who dont feel it necessary to own a mac -- and frustrates these people as well, because i for one love osx & the 'apple experience', but at the moment i want something in-between a 'gateway' computer & high-end computer. apple is not satisfying this market at the moment, & an imac overhaul could accomplish that. thats why im cautiously hopeful we'll see more than what some people are suggesting here.
And PC industry does its own thing which works for billions of people. N ot everyone is a fat tight shirtwearing latte sipping wanna be artists who needs theirs computer to look supercool. Others are normal human beings who unlike the "mac community" dont share any emotional bonds with their computers!
PS: You're right though in one part. It doesnt matter what components they use. It's not like it is going to increase their worldwide %3.5 marketshare! Who cares PC users get to use latest and most advanced ATI Radeon 5870 graphcis card yet; at least you can upload movies directly to youtube in Quicktime X! that should even out!
Wow, the ignorance is appalling.
And by your statements, why can't people be allowed to choose what they want without people like you judging them for it?
Wow, the ignorance is appalling.
And by your statements, why can't people be allowed to choose what they want without people like you judging them for it?
The real gnorance is the belief that pcs with similar specs are just as good as macs. I built over 30 computers ranging from P90's up to high end gaming machines. I still vastly prefer my iMac for all non gaming tasks I now perform. It's fast for my purposes, it has a great display, it's silent, and (best of all) it was built to run OS X.