Its all about preference. What don't you people get. If someone feels that their experience is better than they could have with product X, thats all that matters.
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Its all about preference. What don't you people get. If someone feels that their experience is better than they could have with product X, thats all that matters.
Lol. What a joke.
Why would anyone need a graphics card like that? I can run Crysis on my iMac at max res, max settings (barring anti aliasing) at 30fps with an ATI Radeon 4850. But that's beyond the point. The point is, that PC's lack the software that make Mac's so accessible and useful. If I want to edit video on a PC i'm forced to use crapware downloads or Windows Movie Maker unless I torrent something illegally. Which is a joke in it of itself. I have yet to find software for my PC that even comes close to being as good or useful as iLife as a whole or anything for that matter. The only thing a PC is good for is gaming, which is completely null and void if you prefer consoles or just aren't interested in gaming at all.
"Its all about preference. What don't you people get. If someone feels that their experience is better than they could have with product X, thats all that matters."
see, this is just WRONG. it is NOT 'all about preference'. and that is not 'all that matters'. if anything apple is the master at demonstrating this. "spec sheets" (aka, computers, w/out the software + fancy casing), as you call them, make up the overwhelming majority of a computer's cost, & things like "money", "price", & "not being assraped by corporations who feel THEY know better than their own customers about what they want or need" is not wholly insignficant to most people.
see, this is just WRONG. it is NOT 'all about preference'. and that is not 'all that matters'. if anything apple is the master at demonstrating this. "spec sheets" (aka, computers, w/out the software + fancy casing), as you call them, make up the overwhelming majority of a computer's cost, & things like "money", "price", & "not being assraped by corporations who feel THEY know better than their own customers about what they want or need" is not wholly insignficant to most people.
HA! you think peoples preferences don't matter? THEY ARE THE ONES PAYNG FOR WHAT THEY WANT.
when did i say they dont matter?? youre again completely misreading what im saying. on the whole, apple customers are NOT paying for what they want, they are paying for what apple will give them. if -personal- preference is so important to apple (& they do a TREMENDOUS job of marketing the idea that it is, which is why every freakign thing they make is 'i' this or 'i' that), they wouldnt be the least customizable, most rigid mainstream computers on market. youre acting like exactly the bogeyman i was talking about earlier.
nt, you apparently really dont understand the concept of monopoly, apple has a MONOPOLY on OSX & their own brand. their recognition of this fact & the masterful things theyve done to take advantage of it is only hurting YOU, & anyone else who wants to buy their product. THATS why they offer an extrely limited selection of platforms & customization options. in the words of navin r johnson, "its a profit deal." it has NOTHING to do with looking out for their consumers or potential consumers & suiting their exact needs. the fact that so many people fall for apple's marketing bs, actually believing they are getting exactly what they want when they are in fact getting exactly what apple decides they should want, is sickening. if these two things happen to line up, & they apparently did for you, GREAT. usually they won't.
You apparently don't understand that if a company builds something (hardware or software) then they own the rights to it.
Maybe some other airline companies should sue Boeing for not allowing them to use their expensive flight control software in their home built airplanes?
It's simply a ridiculous argument. Apple is not interested in catering to the Hackintosh market, plain and simple. Personally I'm glad that Apple has taken a stand against crappy user experiences on computers. They have said more than once that they are not interested in selling junky computers. As soon as they start licensing OS X to companies like Pystar, that is what they will have. They have wisely realized that such a thing dilutes the value of their brand and they're not having it.
If you aren't interested in Apple computers (or if you are only interested in Hackintosh boxes) then what are you and others doing in a thread devoted to speculating on the next iMac hardware? It's insulting and a waste of time to those of us who DO like these machines.
Oh man that was rich. You don't happen to be one of Psystar's lawyers do you?
EVERY COMPANY HAS A MONOPOLY ON THEIR BRAND (unless of course the company is a partnership of others).
Oh man that was rich. You don't happen to be one of Psystar's lawyers do you?
EVERY COMPANY HAS A MONOPOLY ON THEIR BRAND (unless of course the company is a partnership of others).
Yes, I know, this guy sounds like some Chinese DVD pirate who is arguing about how the studios have a monopoly on selling DVDs of the movies that they produced.
Yes, I know, this guy sounds like some Chinese DVD pirate who is arguing about how the studios have a monopoly on selling DVDs of the movies that they produced.
How dare they have control over the product they spend the money and man hours to create, which wouldn't exist without them! For shame every company in the world, for shame!
again, missing the point...whatever. if you're fine bending over for apple, fine. i'm not.
they don't have to sell or give away any rights. they could be a lot less dictatorial. that's all i'm saying. it's a very simple point, coming from a very simple, very common pro-consumer/anti-corporate perspective.
way to miss the point you as well, nt. thanks, i really needed reminding that companies have monopolies on their own brand. ugh. think about it: nobody cares if their computer says dell or HP. they DO care if it says apple. this is fantastic for apple, bad for their customers, & they have milked this fact to the fullest. do you seriously not get it?? how can i possibly spell this out any clearer?
nt, please invest some of that money of yours in a reading comprehension class, it will do far more for your future than any mac product could. you are exactly why some many people laugh at people who use apple.
they don't have to sell or give away any rights. they could be a lot less dictatorial. that's all i'm saying. it's a very simple point, coming from a very simple, very common pro-consumer/anti-corporate perspective.
way to miss the point you as well, nt. thanks, i really needed reminding that companies have monopolies on their own brand. ugh. think about it: nobody cares if their computer says dell or HP. they DO care if it says apple. this is fantastic for apple, bad for their customers, & they have milked this fact to the fullest. do you seriously not get it?? how can i possibly spell this out any clearer?
nt, please invest some of that money of yours in a reading comprehension class, it will do far more for your future than any mac product could. you are exactly why some many people laugh at people who use apple.
Yeah, it's been really bad. Absolutely horrible. We hate it.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10019711-37.html
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2...tisfaction-up-despite-struggling-industry.ars
http://digg.com/apple/Apple_leads_2009_customer_satisfaction_survey
http://www.macnn.com/articles/05/08/16/apple.no..1.on.csi/
http://theappleblog.com/2009/05/06/apple-customer-satisfaction-its-the-experience/
http://blackfriarsinc.com/blog/2007/04/behind-scenes-why-apples-customerbase
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/ByteOfTheApple/blog/archives/2008/08/mac_customer_sa.html
http://www.cultofmac.com/apple-posts-highest-score-ever-on-customer-satisfaction-index/2553
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/22467/
http://bindapple.com/apple-satisfaction-2009-report/
http://www.macnn.com/news/25971
https://www.macrumors.com/2009/08/14/iphone-3gs-trumps-palm-pre-in-satisfaction-survey/
http://www.ipodobserver.com/ipo/article/iPhone_Satisfaction_Off_The_Charts/
http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/08/14/iphone-3gs-99-pure-satisfaction/
http://www.mactivist.com/2009/06/iphone-macs-ipod-sweep-2008-customer-satisfaction-rankings-in-japan
http://www.9to5mac.com/jobs-satisfation-rate-high
http://www.jdpower.com/Business/ratings/smartphone-ratings
http://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2248040/apple-keeps-top-billing
http://www.eweek.com/prestitial.php...ustomer-Satisfaction-Study-Finds-453807/&ref=
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2352796,00.asp
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2006/08/5002.ars
http://www.osnews.com/story/15553
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1689554/posts
https://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-224872.html
I don't need reading comprehension classes, you need to learn how to make statements that aren't full of false authority.
I bought what I wanted, a base model 13" mbp and then went to new egg for 4GB of RAM.
How is it BS? It just points to numerous reports of apple being high on the list.
Reality a problem for you guys or something?
again, good for you. your arguments only make any kind of sense either from your exact personal perspective, or if you work for apple or have large amounts of shares in their company (which you shouldve disclosed right off the bat if so). im glad thats not the case, & im glad you got what you wanted. your line of thinking is still skewed & borderline dangerous, exactly what apple leaches off of & tries to institute in their customers. i hope youre simply a satisfied customer & not some toady, & i apologize for getting/being overheated, but its frustrating arguing with people who come across as blind fanboys & seem to think they are what they own - theyre not, no matter what apple tells them.
You mean the tangible FACTS (as opposed to anecdotal opinion, feelings, and baseless assumptions)? Yup.
I will give you a good part of that list is BS but not all the list is that way. Any of the mac fan sites I do not consider to be worth much considering they will be heavily bias.
Apple makes some damn good hardware for the price point. Yes some times to have to pay a huge premium to get what you want but that is a different matter.
As for the list I failed to see what the point of it was this time. It did not seem to related at all to what quoted post was so it makes the list even more worthless.
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Well, at any rate, for those of us who'll still prolly purchase a Mac in spite of all the bellyaching from those who wish to rail against
- wouldn't it be some welcomed pleasant news for those of us who've enjoyed the Macs that we've had IF the up-and-coming iMac has improvements which are more than just minor bumps-in-the-road?
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Well, at any rate, for those of us who'll still prolly purchase a Mac in spite of all the bellyaching from those who wish to rail against
- wouldn't it be some welcomed pleasant news for those of us who've enjoyed the Macs that we've had IF the up-and-coming iMac has improvements which are more than just minor bumps-in-the-road? +++
Well if multiple surveys say Apple has the highest customer satisfaction rating, how is that BS?
Facts??
ROFLMAO.
You're the best, LTD!
Ya, the fact that Apple equipment and service are consistently top rated must just be hard for you to swallow.
When confronted with these facts you apparently revert to denial and a bunch of smiley faces to try to deflect the fact that you are wrong.
I honestly don't understand why people enjoying Apple systems cause such a problem for some people.
I suspect it's similar to the kid who buys a used Civic, soups it up and then spends every moment of every day on a BMW or Mercedes forum telling them how over priced their cars are because his is faster in the quarter mile.
News flash kiddies;
1. We CARE about the chassis and cooling design of our computers. Having a dead silent computer is wonderful.
2. We CARE about the level of service we receive and like talking to native english speakers.
3. We CARE about the cosmetics of these computers. Having a computer with almost no footprint is also wonderful.
4. We CARE about running machines that Apple designed to run OS X vs. running a Hack.
5. We CARE about buying innovative Apple products with features like next generation batteries that last 2X as long as competitors products.
All of these things cost a premium. If that is too much for you to understand then please enjoy your PC/hackentosh/etc and leave these threads to those who actually will buy a new iMac if it meets their requirements.
While I sit here typing this on my 24" iMac I have my high end work Dell laptop sitting to my right. My wife's 17" MBP is behind me. The only computer I can hear in this home office is the Dell, which sits there with fans running, hard drives chattering away even though I'm not doing a damn thing with it.
Meanwhile the iMac sits here stone silent while providing a gorgeous display to look at and no desktop clutter to deal with. Is it any wonder why some of us prefer Macs?