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Next-Generation iMac With SD Slot, Quad-Core, Possible Xeon? New Mouse and Remote in Pipeline?
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Hey all,
Long time AI lurker, but registered to post a thought here.
I remember reading a story on AI about Apple patents or something with a possible new cooling approach. Does anyone remember that?
If that is the case, it might be entirely possible to see a higher level cpu that what we all think will be able to fit into the iMac.
To the gentleman that posted the idea of an iMac Pro, I believe this makes complete sense to me.
If you think about it, with all the investment in behind the scenes technology that Apple has made with 64bit, Grand Central, OpenCL, it would make obvious sense to me that they didn't do all this for nothing.
Are we really there yet? Of course not, but I believe this is part of Apple's bigger roadmap.
We might actually get a Xenon or Quad, or even something more special.
Again, I like the iMac Pro idea, it fits in with the Macbook/Mackbook Pro segregation and offers a low cost line for consumers as well as a higher power line for professionals/prosumers.
If Apple releases some fantastic tricked out iMac with and LED backlight and Quad/Xenon processor, with some exotic cooling solution and thinner, I'm going to be making a purchase.
hf
Hey all,
Long time AI lurker, but registered to post a thought here.
I remember reading a story on AI about Apple patents or something with a possible new cooling approach. Does anyone remember that?
If that is the case, it might be entirely possible to see a higher level cpu that what we all think will be able to fit into the iMac.
To the gentleman that posted the idea of an iMac Pro, I believe this makes complete sense to me.
If you think about it, with all the investment in behind the scenes technology that Apple has made with 64bit, Grand Central, OpenCL, it would make obvious sense to me that they didn't do all this for nothing.
Are we really there yet? Of course not, but I believe this is part of Apple's bigger roadmap.
We might actually get a Xenon or Quad, or even something more special.
Again, I like the iMac Pro idea, it fits in with the Macbook/Mackbook Pro segregation and offers a low cost line for consumers as well as a higher power line for professionals/prosumers.
If Apple releases some fantastic tricked out iMac with and LED backlight and Quad/Xenon processor, with some exotic cooling solution and thinner, I'm going to be making a purchase.
hf
Personally, I'm thinking we'll see a press release on Tuesday instead of a media event. The rumors don't point to enough of a tech advance or redesign (for either the iMac or MacBook) to warrant a dog and pony show.
Wouldn't be a bit surprised to see the new machines released the first Tuesday in October.
you mean there not going to show a new designed imac??? I disagree, i say they will go with a media event to take away some attention from Microsoft.
Assuming the iMac gets an SD slot how long will it be until people start screaming about PC getting SD slots coping apple....
My answer is took apple long enough to put in something that been installed on PC for over 5 years now.
My answer is took apple long enough to put in something that been installed on PC for over 5 years now.
If has the same power saving methods the i7 have then that could work, but if doesn't the i7 is the better choice(as it can produce heat).
I don't see the point of a single Xeon when the i7 would be fine. Plus, I don't see an abundance of ECC SODIMM modules, and while it may be possible to have a Xeon without ECC, I've never personally seen a Xeon-based machine without it.
I think an i5 or i7 system running at 2.66Ghz would be nice.
I think an i5 or i7 system running at 2.66Ghz would be nice.
We will have a special event. Remember last keynote at the end Steeve Jobs say's, "Thank you for coming, SEE YOU SOON" with a little smile in his face.
Here's my prediction:
1-iMac pro 30 inch with Blu Ray at the same price than the actual high end iMac
2-Three other iMac without Blu Ray but cheaper than the actual and only 24 inch, no more 20 inch
3- New Apple TV , three model 160 Gb, 320 Gb and 500 Gb. Hopefully a 1T but it's a dream, support of 1080p, with support of iTunes extra and LP
4- The macBook will be the tablet
Here's my prediction:
1-iMac pro 30 inch with Blu Ray at the same price than the actual high end iMac
2-Three other iMac without Blu Ray but cheaper than the actual and only 24 inch, no more 20 inch
3- New Apple TV , three model 160 Gb, 320 Gb and 500 Gb. Hopefully a 1T but it's a dream, support of 1080p, with support of iTunes extra and LP
4- The macBook will be the tablet
You don't have to use the ECC memory. Maybe you can save some money.
You can drop in a UP Xeon into any socket compatible board as well.
Chill out guys these are RUMORS.
Really nothing here to get stressed about. Here are a few comments:
1.
Xeon is not a problem and in lots of ways makes good sense. It all depends upon how Apple positions the hardware. For most of us though the big factor would be that it allows Apple to control pricing.
2.
If they don't go Xeon the Clarksfield is the only other reasonable choice. It is basically the same thing as Xeon anyways.
3.
12GB of RAM makes sense on the high end model if it is indeed Xeon as that would imply three channels.
4.
It would actually make perfect sense for Apple to deliver different models with different innards. This could explain conflicts with respect to rumors.
5.
An SD port also makes sense due to wide availability or implementation of the standard. I say that with a large investment I'd Compact Flash cards for my DSLR. Even the DSLR world seems to be moving to SD.
6.
If you have seen Intels fiber optic link demos you will realize that the two companies are real tight. Nothing would surprise me right now from this dou of Intel and Apple. That means I would not discount the possibility of a special run of Xeons built to Apples spec. I expect that this will be a heavily refactored iMac that will hopefully surprise many.
Dave
Really nothing here to get stressed about. Here are a few comments:
1.
Xeon is not a problem and in lots of ways makes good sense. It all depends upon how Apple positions the hardware. For most of us though the big factor would be that it allows Apple to control pricing.
2.
If they don't go Xeon the Clarksfield is the only other reasonable choice. It is basically the same thing as Xeon anyways.
3.
12GB of RAM makes sense on the high end model if it is indeed Xeon as that would imply three channels.
4.
It would actually make perfect sense for Apple to deliver different models with different innards. This could explain conflicts with respect to rumors.
5.
An SD port also makes sense due to wide availability or implementation of the standard. I say that with a large investment I'd Compact Flash cards for my DSLR. Even the DSLR world seems to be moving to SD.
6.
If you have seen Intels fiber optic link demos you will realize that the two companies are real tight. Nothing would surprise me right now from this dou of Intel and Apple. That means I would not discount the possibility of a special run of Xeons built to Apples spec. I expect that this will be a heavily refactored iMac that will hopefully surprise many.
Dave
Not all Nehalem or Westmere processors are triple channel. The only viable model for the iMac would be dual channel and a Lynnfield derivative.
Clarksfield is just a power and thermal optimized Lynnfield. The same was true for Penryn mobile and the S Series Core 2 Quads.
I'd rather 4 channels, like i7 offers, which allows you use to a max of 16gb of ram but best yet make it cheaper just to run 8gb of ram.
Noooo!!! There needs to be a 20 inch iMac still! I don't really have enough room on this desk to fit a 24 inch.
It might barely fit, it would be really cutting it.
Noooo!!! There needs to be a 20 inch iMac still! I don't really have enough room on this desk to fit a 24 inch.
It might barely fit, it would be really cutting it.
20 inch will stick around for the education market. It has to be there.
You keep repeating this on multiple threads, as if repeating somehow makes it more valid.
What are you basing this on, a dream you had?
Can't we get this all in one thread?
Lots of news overlap with the Macbook and iMac updates. What's the benefit of Xeon in an iMac?
Because xeons were designed to be in 1u server chasis (1.75" thick) core2Quad's are not?
what I heard was...
I think they'll release a 30" iMac alongside new 30" LED ACDs. Then they'll go Quad-core xeons, bluray, dual ethernet, dual display out, PCI slot(s), 5 firewire, 5 USB, an option for a multitouch/matte display, up to 16GB RAM. The iMac's stand will allow for landscape/portrait rotating, swivel horizontal/vertical, raise up and down. Display in to use the display with a laptop or mac pro. Just what I heard from my sources.
I think they'll release a 30" iMac alongside new 30" LED ACDs. Then they'll go Quad-core xeons, bluray, dual ethernet, dual display out, PCI slot(s), 5 firewire, 5 USB, an option for a multitouch/matte display, up to 16GB RAM. The iMac's stand will allow for landscape/portrait rotating, swivel horizontal/vertical, raise up and down. Display in to use the display with a laptop or mac pro. Just what I heard from my sources.
Forgive me if you want me to ignore the vendors placing desktop processors in notebooks, mobile Core 2 Quad, and Core 2 Quad S Series.
I don't see imac having such all power somebody is describing, for the moment. Mac Pros have yet to be sold...
And, I don't think they'll put 12 Gb RAM either...
I'd think in a MINIMUM restyling, sticking with 20 and 24", 4 and 8 Gb RAM, more powerful CPU's and GPU's. SD card slot is fine, it can be useful and it's according to the last MBP line.
Eventually, a slight price drop of 150-250 USD, depending upon models.
And, I don't think they'll put 12 Gb RAM either...
I'd think in a MINIMUM restyling, sticking with 20 and 24", 4 and 8 Gb RAM, more powerful CPU's and GPU's. SD card slot is fine, it can be useful and it's according to the last MBP line.
Eventually, a slight price drop of 150-250 USD, depending upon models.
Jobs will announce a temperature distortion field for the new iMacs. Problem solved.
The Xeon L3426 along with many of the i5/i7 processors are dual channel not tripple. I still hope that apple puts 4 SODIMM slots in the iMac instead of just two though. That would let you put in 8GB cheap and max at 16GB.
I agree almost all of the new DSLRs are going SD.
cooling
guys, I was just trying to hint at the cooling solution type thing.
I know everyone is looking at the thermal output of new chips to base their ideas on, which makes total sense.
If in fact they did figure out something cooling wise, it upsets the balance on that is all I'm saying.
I didn't see the battery life charging intelligence coming earlier, which paid huge dividends.
Just wanted to throw out an idea, it's ok to pick it apart, it's a message board
hf
guys, I was just trying to hint at the cooling solution type thing.
I know everyone is looking at the thermal output of new chips to base their ideas on, which makes total sense.
If in fact they did figure out something cooling wise, it upsets the balance on that is all I'm saying.
I didn't see the battery life charging intelligence coming earlier, which paid huge dividends.
Just wanted to throw out an idea, it's ok to pick it apart, it's a message board
hf