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Next-Generation iMacs to See Price Cuts?

Ricanlegend said:
wow :eek: people still use desktop ?
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Definitely - I can't stand laptops. I have a Mac Pro to do my real work on, and all I ever need to do when I'm out and around is check email or something similar. I'm not about to buy a laptop (or "netbook") just for that - that's what my iPhone is for :)

If it ever comes to me needing to take work "on the road" with me, then I'll consider a 15" MBP.
 
archer75 said:
Price cuts are always welcome. I'd also like to see a Core i7 and a optional high end video cards. Yes, there are high end laptop cards now.
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Yep. I put up a HP 2185DX laptop on display today. 17.3", Quad core 9000, 6GB ram, 500GB HD and an ATI 4650 video card with 1GB of it's own memory.:eek: $1,300 :eek:
 
Shake 'n' Bake said:
I don't see why we can't have it at $999. It must be the cost of the Al. Apple should put the white iMac back into the lineup if that is the case (no pun intended). Transplant the current low-end internals into it, get rid of the glass and replace the IPS display with a TN one.
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Based on fact that the current low-end iMac has lots of color shifting and yellow off-axis, I would say they are already using TN on the low-end 20" iMac. They might be using IPS or IPA or similar on the 24". I wish they would actually say.

And give me/us an Option to have a non-glare screen.
(some call it 'matte' but in reality, it would be non-glare, anti-glare. Matte finish is a photo-finishing, printing-finish term... ;)
 
GoKyu said:
I think my early 2008 Mac Pro has a 1000 watt PSU...
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so you don't need a macTower but a Mac Pro....

Your Mac Pro is made to run multiple CPUs and GPUS....

the MacTower, if there ever was one, would be with specs around the same of iMac but with desktop parts and a better graphics card (ok and a quad core).
 
whatever said:
Don't think so. Last Friday my sister's Apple Store sold 65 Macs along with their inventory of iPhones. That's not a bad day for one retail store.
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But is Apple GAINING market share? I don't think so. Maybe treading water, at best. And the recent market analysis posted on this site and others substantiates this fact. Win 7 IS a big deal to Apple, regardless of what you may think. I have it installed on my MBP and those of us that do, actually see how the gap has narrowed: we're not just drinking the Kool-aid. Apple is worried...and they should be. Apple is cutting prices. Apple has, essentially, made 10.6 a 'free' upgrade for OS-X systems, compared with Win 7's just announced pricing scheme. These are all the right moves in anticipation of the Win 7 marketing juggernaut that is going to hit in a few months.
 
beginnersview said:
Based on fact that the current low-end iMac has lots of color shifting and yellow off-axis, I would say they are already using TN on the low-end 20" iMac. They might be using IPS or IPA or similar on the 24". I wish they would actually say.

And give me/us an Option to have a non-glare screen.
(some call it 'matte' but in reality, it would be non-glare, anti-glare. Matte finish is a photo-finishing, printing-finish term... ;)
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just sold my iMac 24" tonight for 1110, im so happy its gone because at any givin moment, they can come out with new models, and kill my value on the imac.
 
It's interesting to see people say the 20" should be discontinued, because having recently upgraded from the first white Intel iMac to a 20" aluminum model in March, the size difference is superb and feels "just right" for an entry level model.

I've looked at the 24" in the Apple Store here in Glasgow and while it's a stunning piece of kit, the screen is just too big for my needs ... 20" is a nice entry level size, it's big without being overpowering.

And I read someone say that while they love their iMac, they get embarrassed when asked how much they paid for it. I'm the opposite ... when I tell people who much I paid for mine in March I am greeted with the usual expression, which is :eek: .... followed by the question, "How"?

Corporate Business Discount, £612 ... even the Refurb Store couldn't beat it.
 
PhixionFilms said:
just sold my iMac 24" tonight for 1110, im so happy its gone because at any givin moment, they can come out with new models, and kill my value on the imac.
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I disagree with that comment mate, simply on past experience selling on old iMac's after new models launch.

Provided you have the original box, all the discs and paperwork, etc then you find the value is still exceptional, even after new models have been introduced.

Unfortunately the one part of your post that's true regardless is that Apple can come out with something new at any time ... something that is far more likely from Apple than any other electronics manufacturer. I am pleased they strive to stay ahead, but the rate of their "refreshes" is somewhat bizarre at times, and I can see why consumers are getting annoyed, especially with the current prices, when their new computer is superseded so soon.
 
It's only in the US that prices have gone down. Everywhere else, i.e. for the majority of people, prices have gone up.

Before I hear an exchange rate argument: Apple didn't make stuff proportionately cheaper when the dollar was weaker, and China isn't paid in dollars.
 
Shake 'n' Bake said:
I can imagine that. In fact, it has happened. Cough, uMB, cough. Cough, 13'' and 15'' MBP, cough. :rolleyes:
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I think it was a mistake for Apple to drop the ExpressCard slot on the 15" MacBook Pro, since many photographers like the ExpressCard slot when working with digital SLR's. That is unless Apple will offer the ExpressCard 2.0 slot with USB 3.0 ports during the regular MacBook hardware refresh cycle in October 2010 (ExpressCard 2.0 and USB 3.0 hardware will be available in 2010).

Maserati7200 said:
Apple will definitely not do that. Apple emphasizes with the iMac, their consumer desktop, that it is superior because it does not have the mess of a tower and that it is an all in one simple design.

The Mac Pro is a different story.
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I have to disagree on this! Remember, most desktop tower computers already have all the port connections on the main system box itself, and the only external connection you need is the video cable from the computer to the monitor. I do think if the economy continues to be poor Apple may be forced to build such a minitower to replace the iMac, especially nowadays when you can get a highly-loaded top-end PC plus 24-25" widescreen monitor for around US$1,400 (to get the Mac equivalent you have to shell out around US$2,000).
 
I think Apple would see huge sales of an iMac that boasts a $999 price tag. So that's $200 bucks from where we are now. But I do agree with comments that most new users will be attracted to laptop.
 
Veri said:
It's only in the US that prices have gone down. Everywhere else, i.e. for the majority of people, prices have gone up.

Before I hear an exchange rate argument: Apple didn't make stuff proportionately cheaper when the dollar was weaker, and China isn't paid in dollars.
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I agree and that's the best sum up I've seen in a long time! :cool:
 
beginnersview said:
Based on fact that the current low-end iMac has lots of color shifting and yellow off-axis, I would say they are already using TN on the low-end 20" iMac. They might be using IPS or IPA or similar on the 24". I wish they would actually say.

And give me/us an Option to have a non-glare screen.
(some call it 'matte' but in reality, it would be non-glare, anti-glare. Matte finish is a photo-finishing, printing-finish term... ;)
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They are IPS and have been since mid '07, except the 20'' which was TN then. I'm sure the 20'' has an IPS display now.
 
Hopefully we see quads in the laptops and the iMacs next year... and a better Mini. ;)
 
Drag'nGT said:
Hopefully we see quads in the laptops and the iMacs next year... and a better Mini. ;)
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That reminds me of my C2Q rant.

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Originally posted here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/709265/
 
Ricanlegend said:
wow :eek: people still use desktop ?
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And if Apple would come out with a Core i7 MiniTower at a reasonable price, there'd be a lot more people using desktops. Apple's laptop sales are a high proportion because their desktops turn a lot of people off...


Would anyone like the new Apple xMac at $749
  • Intel® Core™ i7-920 Processor (quad core, 8MB L3 Cache, 2.66GHz)
  • 3GB DDR3 Tri-Channel SDRAM at 1066MHz - 3 DIMMs
  • 500GB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache
  • 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
  • ATI Radeon HD 4350 512MB
  • Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
  • 1Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis
  • Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1, 64-Bit
(Actually, the specs and price are for a Dell Studio XPS.)
 
Veri said:
It's only in the US that prices have gone down. Everywhere else, i.e. for the majority of people, prices have gone up.

Before I hear an exchange rate argument: Apple didn't make stuff proportionately cheaper when the dollar was weaker, and China isn't paid in dollars.
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The Chinese actively peg their currency to the dollar minus an offset. May or may not being paid in dollars, but to assert that the Chinese currency doesn't or may not reflect moves in the dollar is a huge stretch. China is hugely dependent upon a hugely tilted trade imbalance in their favor. They tweak their currency to help make sure that happens.


The operating costs for Apple is not the same in every country. Unless things have radically changed Apple doesn't even distribute in every country (in some places there are "middle men" distributors who add their own mark-up. )

Finally, if Apple's competitors in other countries are not competing as hard, prices will be higher. Very straightforward market segmentation.
 
Apple have to be careful, they position the brand as a premium product discounting is never a good idea for premium branding, but windows 7 is coming and (if MS can get it right this time) should close the gap on OSX.
 
elgrecomac said:
But is Apple GAINING market share? I don't think so. Maybe treading water, at best.
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Apple is gaining market share by dollars and units in US and internationally. Their dollars are also up year over year. The one measure that is not up year over year is desktop units. But it fell less then their competitors.
 
DaBrain said:
A 1 KW Power Supply? Yeah Right! :rolleyes:
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The Nvidia GTX 285 peaks at 305W per card.

The ATi 4870 peaks at 385 W. The ATi 4890 peaks at equal or a bit less.

So, yes. If I have dual cards in, plus the CPU, accessories plugged in [RAID and more options] I'm going to need >= 1kW.

The Mac Pro 2009 Power is at 1KW and it can't push Dual ATi 4870 HDs.

It's one of the reasons you can have dual double wide high end GPGPUs on the Mac Pro.

More and more PSUs are > 1kW.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010320058 113142550&name=1001W above
 
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