I'm very interested in this new integrated graphics chip. I don't really understand the pixel shader lingo, could anyone describe in real-world use, how this is better than the old Intel Integrated Graphics?
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Next Generation Intel Platform (Santa Rosa) Tracking For May
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Yes, but it's only going to be useful for a minor part of the notebook market due to the cost of 2GB SO-DIMMS.
Sorry to make everyone else a little angry or just annoyed about my small knowledge of chips but becuase it comes out in may does that mean apple wont be ablet on get its hands on it until may? surely there going to need months of research etc... surely a release of a comp with it would be better later this year not may?
Sorry for the incompetence!
Sorry for the incompetence!
You mean it will support three independent displays? I don't take that meaning out of the words "dual independent".
In theory, it means (assuming that I'm interpreting the specs properly) that something like the Mac Mini could support dual displays using the onboard graphics...presumably depends entirely on the implementation, but at least it's possible.
(...I may be in the minority, but I'd love a dual-display-capable Mini)
For a desktop it means it can support dual displays. It'd make sense for the Mac mini being capable of dual external displays.
I'm still guessing on what it means for a laptop. Then again I have seen certain Dell machines with VGA and DVI outputs using the GMA950.
From the first link in the news blurb it states the graphics engine will support DirectX version 10 which is good for folks who care about wintel world CAD and games and such. So if Macs will have this as a baseline capacity all they have to do to utilize it is virtualization, or dual-boot, or perhaps even one of the programs that run Windows apps without windows. It would be cool to run Autocad on the Mac "properly".
Also of note:
"Intel will launch four FSB800 processors in May, including the T7100 (1.8 GHz), T7300 (2.0 GHz), T7500 (2.2 GHz) and T7600 (2.4 GHz). There will also be two low-voltage versions (L7500, 1.6 GHz; L7300, 1.4 GHz) that will follow later."
I wonder of a LV L7300 could be the chip for a "tablet larger than iPhone" or if it would also use ARM chips . . .
Rocketman
Also of note:
"Intel will launch four FSB800 processors in May, including the T7100 (1.8 GHz), T7300 (2.0 GHz), T7500 (2.2 GHz) and T7600 (2.4 GHz). There will also be two low-voltage versions (L7500, 1.6 GHz; L7300, 1.4 GHz) that will follow later."
I wonder of a LV L7300 could be the chip for a "tablet larger than iPhone" or if it would also use ARM chips . . .
Rocketman
Apple will have been working with the chipset for a while now, my post earlier about how everything but the Mac Pro uses this was meant to imply that Apple will know this chipset/platform inside out and have their ranges designed with it's features in mind.
Expect MacPRo to be upgraded either in april during NAB(along with FCS 6 & (or) FC Extreme) or during Mac World in June.
As for Santa Rosa, dont get your hopes up for immediate May release. Expect this to come out in the Fall to get those kiddies ready for the upcoming Fall school semester.
As for Santa Rosa, dont get your hopes up for immediate May release. Expect this to come out in the Fall to get those kiddies ready for the upcoming Fall school semester.
Right, but Apple rarely has the latest and greatest available immediately. I'd say we'll have a month or two of "Where is my Santa Rosa machine?" threads.
Yeah, it will be late September and the incoming college freshemn will all be up in arms about not having a laptop for school! And just to spite them, Apple will refresh the MB & MBP a week after Halloween
I really think that MBP update will happen sooner than that. June latest. You maybe right in case of MM and Mini though
I'm reading this on a Linux box with a GMA 950 which is powering two displays. The existing GMA950 is more than capable of two 1280x1024 displays, so why aren't current Mac minis capable of this?
This pisses me off. Dual displays are seen as a pro feature, but the crappiest Windows box can do that these days. Every single Nvidia/Ati card for the last few years has had at least two video outs. Why not let the Mac Mini power two displays?
Two DVI ports on a Mini, and I'll replace my G4 mini tomorrow!
I think i may just buy my 20'' imac now in that case. If Hardware is staying the same except the processors which will now top 2.4GHZ then i am not bothered as i will upgrade the one on the mac i am getting to 2.33 anyway.
Pointless to wait 2 months just for a little difference.
Pointless to wait 2 months just for a little difference.
So, my current C2D MBP isn't actually true 64 bit, despite what Apple has been saying?
The updated graphics sounds great, but can someone compare the GMA950 and GMAx3000 to cards on the market from ATI or NVidia?
It's a 133 MHz boost on the front side bus multiplied by the multiplier. It's not that amazing.
It can RUN a 64-bit program. It just can't BENEFIT from being able to run a 64-bit program since you can't use more then 3 GB of RAM in the MacBook Pro.
http://guides.macrumors.com/GMA_X3000
I've seen anywhere from ATi X550 to nVidia 7300 GT performance range.
All of the Apple lines are getting long toothed. I expect a new hardware launch alongside Leopard.
https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//
GMA 950 has a 3 digit number. GMA x3000 has a killer sounding 4 digit number with the hip prefix "x". That is almost 316% better! Then you add on the prefix and another syllable, and there you have it, clearly better.
Cool. I'm glad to hear that. I want to buy my imac in the next week or so. To hear that hardware isn't getting much of an upgrade please's me.
It will be enough for what i want to do anyway
Expect a graphics card update though. If you're not looking to game then the current model is fine. At least get the 256 MB upgrade for the 20" model or the 7600GT on the 24" model.Cool. I'm glad to hear that. I want to buy my imac in the next week or so. To hear that hardware isn't getting much of an upgrade please's me.
It will be enough for what i want to do anyway
I honestly expect to see an ATi Mobility X26xxx or Geforce Go 83xx/86xx card in the new models.
The processor speed difference isn't much.
Yes, it is. To clarify what Rocketman said, Santa Rosa will allow the system to address more than 4GB of physical memory. Your C2D MBP does support 64-bit instructions and it does allow the addressing of more than 4GB of virtual memory, which are the essential ingredients of a 64-bit system.