Next-Generation iPad and iPad Mini Rumored for March Launch

[MagnusVonMagnum]

I'm not sure I'm understanding you correctly, but I just purchased a "vintage" 3rd Gen iPod Classic, 2nd Gen iPod Mini and I have a 2nd Gen iPod Classic. Plugged each one in to my brand spanking new iMac. Each one was recognised by iTunes, each one had an upadte (updates were probably released years ago but the fact they're still on Apple's servers sounds contrary to your statement).

I mean you cannot update to the latest operating system for iOS and THAT means you CANNOT and I mean CANNOT get most newer software packages since most do not support iOS 3.x any longer. What good is a 1st Gen iPod Touch without software? I'm stuck with the software I got for it two years ago and using it as a music player (most videos won't play either unless they are at a specific resolution whereas newer iPods can play virtually any resolution) so its function is severely limited. Apple could at least have an App Store sort by OSX 3.x and keep older software versions that are compatible with it available (i.e. I could still get most older versions of many software packages for my PPC PowerMac because most sites keep older versions around for just that sort of thing. The same is not true of iOS devices. Once you can no longer get the latest OS version, software will start drying up very quickly.

 

[bmt134]

..have fun with every company that develops new products..spitting..in..your face?

How many companies release an inferior product (iPad Mini) when the have all the capabilities to release a Retina Mini at the time of release. Enjoy being gouged by Apple

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Do you get mad every time you see a new toaster oven model in Wal-mart?

Do you get mad when the new 2013 cars hit the dealership?

Do you get mad when Apple releases a new iPhone/iPad/iPod?

Do you get mad when a fresh batch of donuts is made at the bakery?


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Irrelevant post. Try again.

 

[apolloa]

I mean you cannot update to the latest operating system for iOS and THAT means you CANNOT and I mean CANNOT get most newer software packages since most do not support iOS 3.x any longer. What good is a 1st Gen iPod Touch without software? I'm stuck with the software I got for it two years ago and using it as a music player (most videos won't play either unless they are at a specific resolution whereas newer iPods can play virtually any resolution) so its function is severely limited. Apple could at least have an App Store sort by OSX 3.x and keep older software versions that are compatible with it available (i.e. I could still get most older versions of many software packages for my PPC PowerMac because most sites keep older versions around for just that sort of thing. The same is not true of iOS devices. Once you can no longer get the latest OS version, software will start drying up very quickly.

But that's Apple's business model, force you to upgrade to make them money. It'll be daft when the iPad 3, iPhone 4 gets dropped from support but that's how Apple does business.
It's obvious it makes the large majority of it's money from iOS devices so it's in it's best interest to force people to upgrade as much as possible.
Their's no use complaining about it really.

 

[A Hebrew]

How many companies release an inferior product (iPad Mini) when the have all the capabilities to release a Retina Mini at the time of release. Enjoy being gouged by Apple

Is the min really an inferior product because they sacrificed screen quality for a better battery life and weight? It is all a matter of perspective.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

It would be nice if iOS 6 used even the iPad 3's processing power, as the OS seems to struggle doing simple tasks.

Are you sure? What are you running on it? Like 30 apps simultaneously? My iPad 3 takes advantage of it's processing power just fine. But it does get alittle hot at times.
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[Tigger11]

How many companies release an inferior product (iPad Mini) when the have all the capabilities to release a Retina Mini at the time of release. Enjoy being gouged by Apple

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As has been pointed out repeatedly by myself and others, Apple didnt have the capabilities to make a Retina Mini when they came out with the Mini. Its doubtful they will have a Retina Mini until the fall, thats what the screen folks suggested earlier that the screens for such a device would be available. Getting mad about rumors on macrumors is a silly thing, most of them aren't true.

 

[MrDc2]

How many companies release an inferior product (iPad Mini) when the have all the capabilities to release a Retina Mini at the time of release. Enjoy being gouged by Apple

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Irrelevant post. Try again.

"It would be if they redesigned in 2012. Have fun with Apple spitting in your face."

First it's about redesign, and now the inferred inferiority of the iPad Mini.. you're awesome.

 

[Lark.Landon]

How many companies release an inferior product (iPad Mini) when the have all the capabilities to release a Retina Mini at the time of release. Enjoy being gouged by Apple

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Irrelevant post. Try again.

Probably. But I'll bet the answer is "Yes." to most of my questions.

 

[Sy7ygy]

Great! I returned the Mini because the resolution was a jut a bit too low. Personally have no need for Retina, and would much prefer a slightly higher resolution (like that on Apple's main competitors, the Nexus 7 and new Kindle Fire) given that it would come with better battery life.

I cannot stand people like yourself.

Of ALL the tech companies in the world, Apple has dedicated stores setup for you to try the products before buying.. yet blatently you bought before doing any of this.

So now what was a brand new device some other folk might've wanted at launch date is now a used and degraded piece of kit because most likely, you could not wait.

Apple does not suffer fools lightly but unfortunately their fanbase attract them almost as bad as the fAndroid base. (On an Enthusiast level)

 

[Glideslope]

This entire thread is irrelevant. Apple will continue to sell 10's of millions of iPad mini's. Be they Retina, or Not.

Apple is moving to 6m refresh schedules.

Period.

 

[bmt134]

As has been pointed out repeatedly by myself and others, Apple didnt have the capabilities to make a Retina Mini when they came out with the Mini. Its doubtful they will have a Retina Mini until the fall, thats what the screen folks suggested earlier that the screens for such a device would be available. Getting mad about rumors on macrumors is a silly thing, most of them aren't true.

Who says they didn't have the capabilities? The people gouging consumers?

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"It would be if they redesigned in 2012. Have fun with Apple spitting in your face."

First it's about redesign, and now the inferred inferiority of the iPad Mini.. you're awesome.

You make no sense and are irrelevant.

 

[twoodcc]

i think a faster schedule could be better. i hope this is indeed true, and the ipad mini gets retina and the big ipad gets the redesign. maybe the mini gets colors also?

 

[Jamo12]

If they clocked the a6 chip to go faster and upped the battery, I'm thinking that the a6 could run the retina display as well as the a5 runs the ipad2/ipad mini. And the a6 uses slightly less resources. I can see this as a very possible update. iPhone5 benchmarks doubled and ipad stayed same with double the processing power. Anyway, I could see that happening

 

[wshyang]

I'm well aware of that. Sorry to break it to you but, even samsung calls the note a 'phablet', so technically it doesnt belong in the smarphone category.

And what does the 'ph' in 'phablet' mean?

That's right. You've got your answer, don't thank me.

 

[louis.b]

How many companies release an inferior product (iPad Mini) when the have all the capabilities to release a Retina Mini at the time of release. Enjoy being gouged by Apple

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Irrelevant post. Try again.

I wonder how many people think this guy is NOT a troll.

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And what does the 'ph' in 'phablet' mean?

That's right. You've got your answer, don't thank me.

I'm just curious. What Apple product have you purchased lately mister newbie?

 

[kas23]

I'm sure it had something to do with yields of the A6 chip and battery/screen power issues,let's face it they could barely keep up with demand for like a month or two using readily available parts,if they had used A6 plus a retina display,there would be almost no mini's for sale,battery life would probably be way worse or it would have to be thicker and heavier.

But by introducing a Retina Mini with a different processor (at a different price point) along side the present Mini, they may be able meet demand even better. Think about it, a Retina Mini hits the shelves, this will automatically decrease the demand of the present mini. And if the Retina Mini is more expensive, it won't have as high as demand as the present mini does right now. The result, Apple's supply chain is eased while they sell the same units of Minis (or even more).

 

[linuxcooldude]

While I see your point, I don't think this is Apple's reasoning any more. It may have been at first, but now Apple itself is even trying to make desktop computers, and some laptops even, extinct (the whole "post-PC" thing).

Plus, while OS X adoption may be increasing, the proportion of profit Apple makes from OS X has drastically dwindled. In fact, I wonder if it's still cost effective for Apple to make desktops anymore? It probably isn't, but the PR backlash Apple would get from killing-off OS X would be very severe. Instead, they appear to be doing it slowly instead. My money says there will be no OS X within 5-10 years time - it will be engulfed by iOS and even the iMac may be gone too.

OS X is still relevant and still needed for even iOS development. Certain things just don't work well in iOS on a large scale for content creation ( for the itunes store on the iOS platform ) such as video/audio editing for movies & television, Application development, interactive iBooks/text books, Downloadable music. Just don't see making this primarily on just an iPad tablet.

While content in the iTune store is an extremely small profit compared to its hardware sales its just as important to making all the Apples iOS devices relevant. No apps, music or videos, not much reason to buy one.

Same with Mac OSX. While its laptops & desktops make little money compared to its tablets & phones is just as important to the iOS ecosystem to thrive and continue on.

 

[dampfnudel]

But by introducing a Retina Mini with a different processor (at a different price point) along side the present Mini, they may be able meet demand even better. Think about it, a Retina Mini hits the shelves, this will automatically decrease the demand of the present mini. And if the Retina Mini is more expensive, it won't have as high as demand as the present mini does right now. The result, Apple's supply chain is eased while they sell the same units of Minis (or even more).

I think you just summed up Apple's plans for the iPad mini this year. The only question is do we have to wait another couple of months or 6-8 months for this? Let's hope for a couple of months.

 

[L.O.]

Improve Camera please!

Add an iphone 8mp camera to ipads (&ipods for that matter) and I might buy both, the large and the mini ipads!!

Really liked the mini ipad when it came out but thought it was not worth it at the time because the display was disappointing.

Really liked the display on the ipad 5, but it's too bulky and I do not see my self using it comfortably for long periods of time.

Glad I was too picky and didn't get one yet.

My expectations for ipad 6: lighter & 8mega px camera
My expectations for ipad mini2: retina & 8mega px camera

But if the next updates fail to impress I might even start checking out the competition though years ago I swore off windows

 

[DMH3006]

But by introducing a Retina Mini with a different processor (at a different price point) along side the present Mini, they may be able meet demand even better. Think about it, a Retina Mini hits the shelves, this will automatically decrease the demand of the present mini. And if the Retina Mini is more expensive, it won't have as high as demand as the present mini does right now. The result, Apple's supply chain is eased while they sell the same units of Minis (or even more).

The thing is the problem of yields would be even worse on a retina Mini and please do you really think that if they came out with a retina Mini instead of the "regular" one the demand would have been lower?it would probably have been higher and combining with the lower yields that would have been a problem,let them take a feel for the market im sure they'll put it out.

 

[iMichael!]

1: Give it a A6 Chip and a higher processor.
2: Add Retina to that baby.

Boom.

 

[Phrygian]

.... Moore's law has a lot to do with this. just sayin.

More time goes on, more significant improvements in technology are in shorter periods of time.

 

[HurryKayne]

This entire thread is irrelevant. Apple will continue to sell 10's of millions of iPad mini's. Be they Retina, or Not.

Apple is moving to 6m refresh schedules.

Period.

Do you think this is about to happen for Desktops too?
I mean ,New Mac Pro,Imac..every 6 months?Because i see them following the Cpu releases instead of the market...
Maybe if Apple could approach some modular Mac Pro ideas we saw and heard...i mean,a new pro Module every six months...,first a new Base Pro,then a Gpu module,then a Nas module..etc etc..

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1: Give it a A6 Chip and a higher processor.
2: Add Retina to that baby.

Boom.

-A6
-Retina
-Twice the ram !!!!!!!! <----- Please

Ps.
With so Powerful Mini..do you still need for an Iphone?Maybe its time for Apple to release the Iwatch^^
Anyone knows if its possible to hold the iphone in your pocket while having Wireless Midi and AirPlay (Appz?Ios gear?)at the same time,maybe next Namm will show us something.
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OS X is still relevant and still needed for even iOS development. Certain things just don't work well in iOS on a large scale for content creation ( for the itunes store on the iOS platform ) such as video/audio editing for movies & television, Application development, interactive iBooks/text books, Downloadable music. Just don't see making this primarily on just an iPad tablet.

While content in the iTune store is an extremely small profit compared to its hardware sales its just as important to making all the Apples iOS devices relevant. No apps, music or videos, not much reason to buy one.

Same with Mac OSX. While its laptops & desktops make little money compared to its tablets & phones is just as important to the iOS ecosystem to thrive and continue on.

I agree,without Desktops Apple would be at "the same "Samsung market level,
the Ecosystem Is the key for Ios for now.With Desktops Apple has more than just two OS,it has a inner deep different worth.
Without desktops there won't be any reason for not choosing different platforms,even its not my case,i love Apple aesthetics and design and i'm very curious to see what Ive is going to show us with Ios7.

 

[StoneJack]

Since now competition is so fierce, Apple has to move iPhones and iPads not only at accelerated speed but also to cover low end segments of market as well.
Therefore, the topics of 2013 for Apple will be

1. Innovations concerning iOS 7: maps, multitask windows, further improving rudimentary widgets (such as Calendar icon changing days on icon with time) - but need better clock widget, weather icon/widget, more notifications and improvements of lock screen, accessing main phone functions without having to log in but straight from lock window; further improvement of menubar making it information hub for any apps; further improvement of file management system making it more flexible and able to fully access file systems (for memory cards and USB flash access); possible live desktop, enabling wireless transfer of files using bluetooth and wifi on system level; enabling NFC communications for iOS devices such as for pair games, information (contact) exchange, message, mail and photo and other file exchanges utilizing NFC, bluetooth; possible multiple user logins (for 32 GB and higher iPad/iPhones, for 16GB simply not enough storage for many users information). Systemwide ability to print to networked printers.

2. hardware iPhones: cheaper, larger, different colors, different prices, faster CPU and GPU, more RAM

3. hardware iPads: iPad mini resolution problem; iPad 5/6 new features, probably NFC, lighter weight, better ability to communicate with desktop Macs, not just through iCloud; faster CPU and GPU, more RAM

4. Wireless charging.

5. Low light camera abilities, meaning lower f and better BSI sensors.

6. Of course, the legendary and mythical Apple TV

 

[nick_elt]

I'm well aware of that. Sorry to break it to you but, even samsung calls the note a 'phablet', so technically it doesnt belong in the smarphone category.

Bahahahhaahahahahaha. Are you for real?? Its a phone, and its smarter than an iphone. Thats your excuse for thinking the iphone is the fastest phone? Because all the other androids are bigger so its not fair so it doesnt count?