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The antenna has to be at the bottom of the phone per FCC mandate to reduce signal radiation exposure.

Well then the FCC is going to have something to say about the iphone 4. See the image in the post above.

Unless perhaps this is a new mandate, but I don't remember anything...
 
Not the new iphone

A friend told me he saw the new iphone while doing work with some factory in China, he said the new iphone is skinnier and different in many ways... this must be the verizon ready phone.
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If the phone is facing you, the left side could be the wifi, the right side cellular, and top and bottom nothing except structure. Then all 4 slits can be touched without causing a problem.
 
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Why. Would apple release a cdma iphone 4 with iphone 5 a few months away?
 
If this the new iPhone, the small tweaks may irritate some case makers--they probably want the next generation to stay the same--the volume and toggle switch change means a new case needs to be made.
 
i dont understand why so many people are saying it makes no sense for apple to have an iphone for verizon and att. why doesnt it make sense for them to release an iphone for verizon this month or next that is a world phone like the bb bold, droid pro, droid 2, bb storm, etc and release the same refresh for att in june, then next year have the lte 4g iphone come out compatible with both carriers? it makes no sense for apple to have 2 products but makes sense for htc, motorola, samsung and the like to have 30 phones out at any time for various carriers?
 
If this the new iPhone, the small tweaks may irritate some case makers--they probably want the next generation to stay the same--the volume and toggle switch change means a new case needs to be made.

Nope, case manufacturers will be happy to see a new design, because it means more people that will be buying cases (because any iPhone 4 owners that upgrade will need a new case).

jW
 
I like how he's like "this could fix the antena issue."

Yeah, or it's an older version that's even worse and they added the separators to make it better!

I mean, I have no idea, but neither does he. We have no idea of knowing what this is.

yeah i'm thinking it's an early prototype.

Why would an older version suddenly show up? Extremely unlikely. More likely is that Apple had all prototype parts destroyed.

Also, you don't have loose parts of prototypes laying around like this. This video is just like the video SmartPhoneMedic released earlier this year of similar iPhone 4 parts. I'd bet it's a similar situation where a parts vendor somehow got their hands on some of the parts through a relationship with a Chinese OEM.


I like stewart715's take, but I would go one farther: It's a CDMA/GSM phone that will be for sale at both verizon and AT&T.


<snip> Therefore, could it make sense that this new phone has three antennas, rather than two? The extra break point might be there to separate the CDMA antenna from the UMTS/GSM antenna and the Bluetooth/WiFi/GPS antenna. The bottom section and the right section of the phone could be for GSM, the left section for CDMA, and the top section for Bluetooth/WiFi/GPS. Since the CDMA and GSM antennas will never be on at the same time, there would be no death grip issue when bridging the two with your hand, and since you could never really bridge the gap on the top right corner of the phone, there would be no death grip issue from GSM/WiFi? The only thing of which I am not sure is whether the signal attenuation occurs because you're bridging two active antennas or whether you're just bridging two antennas together (i.e. does bridging an inactive antenna with an active one cause signal degradation or not, or is it marginal).

Just my thoughts on that. Maybe it makes sense. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable about antenna hardware could chime in.

This is exactly what I'm thinking. We need to realize that when the length of an antenna is changed, so is the tuning. Unless they cut it in specific fractions, the antenna is no longer tuned for GSM/UMTS. My guess is we have a CDMA/LTE antenna or CDMA and blank. OR, the cut the UMTS antenna in half and we have CDMA and UMTS.

But here's a question for the antenna experts, if the frequency is the same, could CDMA and UMTS share an antenna?

This changes everything. Again.

Just a thought, that sim slot could be for LTE. Not likely, but still.

I've been blowing off the possibility of an LTE iPhone this year, but I'm willing to consider it as a possiblity after seeing this as well as the antenna changes.

And most importantly, did they really need to move the volume-control buttons? Do you guys realize what a mess it will be with the bumpers and other cases?

Unbelievable..

This explains those leaks of Verizon specific cases. This alone brings some of the rumors together into some very strong anecdotal evidence.
 
terrible that these suppliers are constantly leaking images of prototype/unfinished devices. While not a fan of more than a few of apple's business decisions, i do empathize with them for being angry whenever leaks like this occur.

On the other hand, they could build the phone here in the US, (although at a much more significant cost) while at the same time helping to stimulate the economy by creating jobs..so maybe i'm not so empathetic after all.
 
Oh so instead of fixing it, they just moved the seam somewhere else?

Sigh. Well now I'm glad I didn't wait for it.
 
I'm more inclined to believe this is an iPhone 4 prototype rather than an iPhone 5 prototype. How many people can actually have access to prototypes of the iPhone 5 at this point? I bet its not many.

Probably more people than have access to iPhone 4 prototypes since they are most likely recalled/destroyed upon the release of the final product.

I'm agreeing with the people here saying the next iPhone will most likely just be a minor refresh, and this info seems to bear that out.

It makes sense from a manufacturing perspective to use a mature design with high yields. It also gives another 12 months for that per-unit cost to keep dropping (if it's a June release). And we all know Apple likes to have a decent margin.

As to CDMA, I honestly can't see them running two concurrent lines. Especially considering outside the US CDMA is not huge. It doesn't really make sense to have a Verizon-only model, even with the number of users on that network. It's messy, and we're running towards the end of 3G over the next couple of years.

The big deal would be, I guess, the LTE model that comes out next year. That gives the networks a chance to build infrastructure and Apple enough time to get the hardware sorted. I'd also assume a dual-core A4 (A5?) part by that time - this year's revision will likely just run at a higher clock and would probably see release first in the iPad 2. Not that we'd know anyway, since PA Semi are now part of the Apple 'Cone of Silence'.

Of course, this is Apple, so who knows. I'm just making conservative guesses :p

You're completely ignoring 85M CDMA users in China that would also like a CDMA iPhone. And no, 3G won't end in 2 years. The 3G networks will most likely be up as long as a decade accoring to the carriers.

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People got to be high if they think Apple would make the same mistake twice.

This is just a bunch of horse manure, designed to yank peoples chains.

A sucker is born every nano second these days and anyone who believes this crap should be taken out back and shot straight thru the head!

When it turns out to be true, can we take you out back and shoot you straight thru the head? :D

Only they didn't with the first three iPhones.

Actually, they did on the first 2.

A friend told me he saw the new iphone while doing work with some factory in China, he said the new iphone is skinnier and different in many ways... this must be the verizon ready phone.
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Why. Would apple release a cdma iphone 4 with iphone 5 a few months away?

Because the iPhone 5 would still be GSM and the 2 products will be marketed to 2 different customer bases (with some overlap obviously).

If this the new iPhone, the small tweaks may irritate some case makers--they probably want the next generation to stay the same--the volume and toggle switch change means a new case needs to be made.

Exactly, this validates the leaked Verizon iPhone cases.

Well, if anyone noticed, this was FCC approved. Looks genuine in my opinion.

Some one correct me if I'm wrong.

Where? I think you saw the iPhone 4 FCC approval. At the first part of the video it appears we are looking at 2 iPhone 4's. At the very least, when he takes one away the remaining phone is definately an iPhone 4.
 
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People got to be high if they think Apple would make the same mistake twice.

This is just a bunch of horse manure, designed to yank peoples chains.

A sucker is born every nano second these days and anyone who believes this crap should be taken out back and shot straight thru the head!

I love this guy...LOL!
 
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If the phone is facing you, the left side could be the wifi, the right side cellular, and top and bottom nothing except structure. Then all 4 slits can be touched without causing a problem.

No, your hand still wraps around the back and touches both left and right at the same time, also known as "bridging"
 
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Fake parts or not, that was a very interesting video.

I agree. Once again proving the marketing expertise of Apple. Too bad they can't, or won't design a good phone.

As a hand held computer the iP4 and upcoming models are great. It's the phone that sucks and that's something that Apple just doesn't care about. It's all too easy for them to blame it on AT&T as they have with great success.

You've got to hand it to Apple, they can sell anything.
 
iP5 has no hole for a camera on the front. Fuh reel?

I think that hole was there, not for the camera to poke through, but to allow for the depth of the module. One could assume that the module is thinner and perhaps no longer needs the hole.

At least this is what I gathered after reading comments in this thread. By no means do I know what I'm talking about. :D
 
You can clearly see that the "iPhone 5" in the video at the beginning is actually an iPhone 4 since it has the plastic band next to the audio jack.

Yet later on in the video, the "iPhone 5" does not?

Somethings up.....
 
No, your hand still wraps around the back and touches both left and right at the same time, also known as "bridging"

Yea but if you touch both at the same time now there's no problem. Only when you cover the lower left slit. I hold it so that I touch both antennae and there is no problem. Its only if you connect them directly.
 
Reaching ...

This is reaching for straws ... and unfortunately, it's mostly a big ad for Global Direct Parts more than anything else. The presenter does not provide a shred of evidence of where he obtained the parts from or when.

I'm guessing Apple Legal will contacting someone.
 
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