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Wonder what feature they will make only work on iPhone 5, so people have to upgrade. Can it be this NFC? Probably.
 
(slightly off topic) I can't the see the TSA allowing Passbook for boarding passes at airports. It would totally disrupt their procedure of stamping and/or writing on the physical boarding pass for their own reasons.

Not that I am against disrupting the TSA :D

I've gone through TSA a couple times using mobile boarding passes (United app) on my iPhone when boarding United Airlines. It's been around for quite a while.
 
Nfc with Passbook would give the new iPhone that token feature you can't get on previous models, without it I would probably never use Passbook.
 
Airline tech chief expects 2012 iPhone with NFC to dominate e-tickets

(slightly off topic) I can't the see the TSA allowing Passbook for boarding passes at airports. It would totally disrupt their procedure of stamping and/or writing on the physical boarding pass for their own reasons.

Not that I am against disrupting the TSA :D

Although it's interesting that the only boarding pass shown is from Amtrak - who told the TSA's VIPR teams to GTFO of train stations.

Airline tech chief expects 2012 iPhone with NFC to dominate e-tickets

By Sam Oliver Apple Insider
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 08:13 AM

Apple's Passbook application in iOS 6 will likely be enhanced with digital wallet and ticketing services thanks to a near-field communications chip in the company's next-generation iPhone, according to an executive with an airline information technology company.

Jim Peters, the chief technology officer at SITA, a company that specializes in IT and telecommunication services for the airline industry, spoke last Thursday at the annual Air Transport IT Summit in Brussels, Belgium, according to IDG News Service. He believes NFC technology for services like e-wallets and digital airline ticketing will be widespread by the end of this year, thanks largely to the inclusion of an NFC chip in Apple's next iPhone.

Peters said that NFC adoption up until now has been held back because network operators and smartphone makers have been debating who will take a cut of NFC transactions. Wireless providers and companies like Google and Research in Motion haven't been thinking about the user, he said.

"Who is thinking of the user? Apple," he said. "They don't argue about it with anybody. They came out with Passbook last week, which is an electronic wallet that they are going to start putting stuff on."

The SITA CTO expects that Apple will "sneak up on the industry" by offering digital wallet and ticketing support with its Passbook application and the company's sixth-generation iPhone.

"They are going to get people using it (the Passbook application) and then all of a sudden they will allow credit cards to be used in there, on the next iPhone, which will include NFC," Peters said.

SITA is currently experimenting with NFC technology that will allow passengers to access the car park and business lounges at the airport in Toulouse, France, using NFC technology. He expects the next step will be secure boarding passes that rely on wireless NFC technology for secure authentication, and he thinks that shift will come about because of Apple.

"You need to get ready, this is coming. This is going to happen," he told airline professionals at the summit. "By the end of the year the majority of smartphones that you go and buy will have NFC on them. If in October the next iPhone comes out and it has NFC on it, it's game over."

Passbook was highlighted as one of the hallmark features of iOS 6 by Apple at its annual Worldwide Developers Conference earlier this month. The software is a new native application that will come built in to the next-generation mobile operating system when it launches this fall.

Passbook features a card-like interface that presents users' personal items. In one example provided by Apple, a user might have their boarding pass saved with Passbook, and if the boarding gate for their flight changes, the ticket would be updated to reflect this and the user would be sent a notification.

Passbook will also feature geolocation technology that will automatically pull up the appropriate card for a user based on their location. In one example, a user's Starbucks store card would show up when they visit the coffee chain.

Apple has been rumored for years to include NFC technology in a future iPhone, but to date no iPhone models have included an integrated NFC chip. Competing handsets, like Google's Nexus S, have included NFC chips, but e-wallet payments have yet to take off with services like Google Wallet.
 
Im the only one who gets this because people are too caught up being angry over someone saying Apple stole NFC from Google.

I love it.

NFC is simply a standard for accepting payments. It has nothing to do with Google.

Google WALLET is something that Google created to accept payments over a smartphone using NFC. Apple Passport is Apple's version of this concept. They are different things with different implementations which both use NFC under the covers.

This is as ridiculous as saying that Apple added a gyroscope to their phone and Google copied, or Android added a camera to their phone and Apple copied. Seriously!

I guess if one phone comes out with the latest-and-greatest USB 4.0 port or something, no other phone can have it, too, right?
 
Like other folks have posted, I don’t think this comes as any surprise, assuming Apple can source power friendly support chips, I can’t imagine them not implementing NFC (especially in conjunction with the new Passbook feature). LTE falls into the same category, won’t be a surprise, it’s all in the chip availability to meet power/battery life requirements.

The processor-of-the-week type upgrades are way less interesting to me in the mobile space than trying to create new usage models that get wide spread adoption.

Not to mention that if you lose your iPhone, you just lost your money temporarily (for that night or however long until you get a new one & restore).

Well, I always carry a wallet for ID, insurance, etc., so I’m sure I’ll keep some backup cards even if this becomes a common payment method. :)

I prefer the AFC.

Nice. (Go Steelers!)
 
Was there a doubt?

I guess it was completely obvious that they have plans for passbook. Since apple likes to provide complete solutions, the don't just include NFC chip in their phone they provide the software and backend to support it. Like Front Facing Camera---> FaceTime; We will definitely see NFC on the next iPhone with deept integration with passbook. And it is not just for payments, it is for all the other things passbook provide. I won't be suprised if apple has already talked to airlines , starbucks, and ... to provide interface for Apple's NFC. Can't wait to see iPhone 5 or "the new iPhone" or whatever it is called.
 
Like other folks have posted, I don’t think this comes as any surprise, assuming Apple can source power friendly support chips, I can’t imagine them not implementing NFC (especially in conjunction with the new Passbook feature). LTE falls into the same category, won’t be a surprise, it’s all in the chip availability to meet power/battery life requirements.

The processor-of-the-week type upgrades are way less interesting to me in the mobile space than trying to create new usage models that get wide spread adoption.



Well, I always carry a wallet for ID, insurance, etc., so I’m sure I’ll keep some backup cards even if this becomes a common payment method. :)



Nice. (Go Steelers!)

That's kinda my feeling too. If I'm carrying all that stuff in a wallet, I don't see PassBook as a great feature for myself. I enjoy all-in-one concepts but at some point, it's safer/smarter to have separate things.
 
I wonder if NFC and screen size/factor will be the two major hardware features added. they will obviously improve the camera and other stuff but I think in terms of hardware this is what we should expect. I think that is definitely more than enough to get the campers waiting in line.
 
As eager and willing as I am to run out and buy the next iPhone, and as much as I love technology, this type of thing still scares me when I think of where it'll probably lead to. I'm sure it won't be too long before these chips eventually work themselves into our bodies or are required by law, in the holy name of national security. Passport, driver license, health and vehicle insurance info, bank/credit accounts, medical records... all "conveniently" stored in one little chip, secured somewhere under your skin. It's coming. :rolleyes:
 
I wonder if NFC and screen size/factor will be the two major hardware features added. they will obviously improve the camera and other stuff but I think in terms of hardware this is what we should expect. I think that is definitely more than enough to get the campers waiting in line.

But everyone on this forum has been saying Apple doesn't innovate anymore since Steve Jobs died
 
(slightly off topic) I can't the see the TSA allowing Passbook for boarding passes at airports. It would totally disrupt their procedure of stamping and/or writing on the physical boarding pass for their own reasons.

Not that I am against disrupting the TSA :D

Although it's interesting that the only boarding pass shown is from Amtrak - who told the TSA's VIPR teams to GTFO of train stations.

Fortunately we can already use our smart-phones for boarding here in Europe, so this won't make too much of a difference. But I do hope that NFC starts getting popular with vending machine operators, because I seldom have enough small change on me.
 
Not to mention that if you lose your iPhone, you just lost your money temporarily (for that night or however long until you get a new one & restore).

If I lose my wallet, I lost my money and credit cards, have to deal with identity theft, etc. If I lose my phone, I have it password-protected so my money and credit cards are safe. Either way I lose access to my money, etc; but when I lose my phone the money's not gone for good.
 
Honestly I'm not too crazy about the whole NFC thing. I think scanning of the barcode from the phone screen is good enough (or even great, I use it often at Starbucks, I wish other apps implemented this feature for retailers that I visit on a regular basis). I guess I gotta see NFC working in the real world and test it out myself. The technology has been around for a while. I wonder why now phone manufacturers are bringing this to the USA, if it's that great.
 
Well nobody can say that Apple stole NFC from Google, but Google "did it first" (as in, phone wallet) and Apple will be doing it now.

Which is a good thing.

This is not about "stealing", this is about driving technology forward, something that both Android and iPhone users should understand. Unfortunately Apple is not helping by frequently claiming "how everyone is copying from them", but that's just a narcissistic statement from a narcissistic company, we got loads of those.

So yeah, Google did it first like a lot of things that Apple is introducing lately, but who cares - it's good that Apple is introducing those features too. Good ideas should be promoted, not avoided for the sake of competition.

I'm pretty sure the Japanese beat Google to it.
 
I wonder if NFC and screen size/factor will be the two major hardware features added. they will obviously improve the camera and other stuff but I think in terms of hardware this is what we should expect. I think that is definitely more than enough to get the campers waiting in line.

I believe we’ll see some smaller, incremental improvements with the CPU/GPU, and both cameras. The major hardware updates will be NFC, LTE and the new display (plus the change in the physical design). Wrap all that up with IOS6 (with the new maps, Passbook, all the tweaks to Siri) and that’s what we’ll see in October.

I suspect Apple will be making a huge effort to establish partnerships so they can hit the ground running with PB+NCF. A few major department stores, airlines, some “boutique” type stores like Starbucks, Apple stores of course. They love the angle of “...and you can do this _now_” vs. here’s a neat new feature, but you can’t really use it.
 
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