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Just dont make it thinner - what is it for? Isnt the current generation thin enough? Just make components thinner but use the space for larger battery to improve battery life.:rolleyes:
 
You are both wrong. And using that logic the iPhone 3G should have been called the iPhone 2 because it was the 2nd iPhone.

Look, the new iPhone is whatever Apple chooses to call it. You can use logic saying "the iPhone 3GS was the 3rd iPhone", well the iPhone 3G was the 2nd iPhone and the iPhone 4S is the 5th iPhone... so what?

Apple could call it iPhone 5 and that's what it would be called. It doesn't matter if it is not actually 5th iPhone because their numbering system in the past hasn't always corosponded to anyting at all, and quite frankly doesn't have to.

Some have suggested the iPhone be called iPhone 2012 or iPhone 2013, etc.. The problem with this is that some carriers don't get the updated phones until the following year, and this would lead to further confusion.

But still, how are you disputing that the 3GS wasn't the 3rd iPhone, and the iPhone 4 wasn't the 4th iPhone?

I never said what they'll call the next iPhone, I just pointed out that he had the iPhone ordering wrong.
 
CRIPES! The iPhone 4S is the iPhone 5! How freakin' stupid are some people?!

If it was the iPhone 5...it would be called the iPhone 5.

Was the 3GS actually the 4 in disguise?

I never want to see this point discussed again, it's like a dead horse beating another dead horse with a tiny dead pony.
 
Meanwhile, to enhance photography effects, iPhone 5's rear camera will feature a larger f/2.2 aperture than iPhone 4S's f/2.4. However, larger aperture means more noises.

WrongWrongWrong. It is actually the opposite.

Opening up the aperture on a camera will result in LESS noise as there is less amplification required to expose the image properly. What IS increased is "bokeh," or background blurring, due to the thinner depth of field. Also, you will be able to take slightly better-exposed photos, with lower noise of course, in dim light.
 
Apples cameras are definitely not the best mobile camera, the best right now is to my knowledge the Nokia 808 PureView with it's 41MP camera.

Just for the record, MP's have ZERO to do with image quality. 41 MP's is useless unless you were printing an image the size of a building. the 8MP camera on the iPhone is more then enough mega pixels. It's the optical sensors, lens quality, and the light gathering capability that make a good camera. MP's are the biggest scam going. And while the Nokia camera is nice (from what I hear), the 41MP moniker kinda ruins it.
 
Last I checked f2.2 isn't that much of a difference vs f 2.4. Then again that was on an APS-C camera so it could be a bit different there.
 
The next iPhone will be known as the iPhone 5, regardless of what apple chooses to call it. Just like everyone calls the new iPad "iPad 3"

So was the iPhone 3G (the second iPhone) called the iPhone 2? No.

And if your analysis is that that it's the 5th design, then why wasn't the 4 called iPhone 3 if it was the 3rd design? The 3Gs wasn't that much different than the 3G and Apple still called the next one iPhone 4. The 4S isn't that much different than the 4 so I'm not sure why it would be called the 5 if the 4S is indeed the 5th to have come out.

My bet is that it will be iPhone 6 or something else.
 
With so many new specs leaking, could a June launch be in the offing? If these are legit, they are appearing a long way before an Autumn launch.
 
If they make it so the average person doesn't feel the need to keep it in a case, then in practice it will be much thinner. I used to use a fairly bulky but protective case and I see those around a lot. Now I'm using the slim and exellent Elago case. But that case still adds thickness.
 
I don't care what the next iPhone looks like, how thin it is, how many pixels the screen is. I still have a 3GS and it's all still great.

The only thing that matters to me at this point is getting off AT&T and 3G. Everything about the network has been crappy since I got it three years ago.

Looking forward to jumping ship to Sprint LTE, Verizon LTE or T-Mobile LTE if it ever gets off the ground.
 
Just dont make it thinner - what is it for? Isnt the current generation thin enough? Just make components thinner but use the space for larger battery to improve battery life.:rolleyes:

We are talking about 1.4mm difference. That's .05 inches. Not .5 inches, .05. It's really not anything to get excited about either way.
 
Having a larger aperture means it lets in more light...which should mean less noise...

Exactly! Larger aperture = more light on the sensor = less noise (only slightly less when comparing f/2.2 to f/2.4, but certainly not MORE noise)
 
HD offers the same 16:9 aspect ratio as the new display, as opposed to the 4:3 aspect ratio of the current VGA-quality FaceTime camera...

There's nothing about HD resolution video that says it has to be 16:9. The designation is only based on a vertical resolution of 720 progressive scanned lines or more.
 
So... according to rumors iPhone 5 will have:

- 8Mpx camera slightly better and HD FaceTime front camera
- 4 inch screen which will only be taller and not wider to allow just one more row of icons
- A5 chip better seen on the iPad 2 which allows better battery life plus a new better GPU
- 1GB RAM
- Thinner design
- Bluetooth 4.0 but not for transfers between phones


Is this enough for convincing me to upgrade my iPhone 4?

No.

Seems to me like an iPhone 4SS...
 
So... according to rumors iPhone 5 will have:

- 8Mpx camera slightly better and HD FaceTime front camera
- 4 inch screen which will only be taller and not wider to allow just one more row of icons
- A5 chip better seen on the iPad 2 which allows better battery life plus a new better GPU
- 1GB RAM
- Thinner design
- Bluetooth 4.0 but not for transfers between phones


Is this enough for convincing me to upgrade my iPhone 4?

No.

Seems to me like an iPhone 4SS...


You're forgetting that it will include Siri 2.0.... i.e. a less retarded and more untuitive Siri. :rolleyes: Also... you can expect quite a few new software features that I'm sure they will limit to the iPhone 5 (or the new iPhone).
 
You're forgetting that it will include Siri 2.0.... i.e. a less retarded and more untuitive Siri. :rolleyes: Also... you can expect quite a few new software features that I'm sure they will limit to the iPhone 5 (or the new iPhone).

Siri 2.0 Beta?
 
Thinner is not better

I don't want thinner. The problem with thinner is it means more fragile. Sure, that's great from the manufacturer's point of view because the phones break sooner so consumers have to buy new ones which makes more money for the stockholders and executives. However, that is environmentally unfriendly, producing more waste and consuming more resources.

I want more robust. After that more battery time. After that more memory. Thinner is not good.
 
Just for the record, MP's have ZERO to do with image quality. 41 MP's is useless unless you were printing an image the size of a building. the 8MP camera on the iPhone is more then enough mega pixels. It's the optical sensors, lens quality, and the light gathering capability that make a good camera. MP's are the biggest scam going. And while the Nokia camera is nice (from what I hear), the 41MP moniker kinda ruins it.

I do get a little tired of people arguing with me and saying "my camera is better because it has more megapixels! That means more quality!" I'm just like "your not even worth arguing about this if you believe that."
 
So... according to rumors iPhone 5 will have:

- 8Mpx camera slightly better and HD FaceTime front camera
- 4 inch screen which will only be taller and not wider to allow just one more row of icons
- A5 chip better seen on the iPad 2 which allows better battery life plus a new better GPU
- 1GB RAM
- Thinner design
- Bluetooth 4.0 but not for transfers between phones


Is this enough for convincing me to upgrade my iPhone 4?

No.

Seems to me like an iPhone 4SS...

You're forgetting that it will likely be 4G/LTE - a wonderful thing to have if you live in certain areas. It might also have NFC or AirDrop features, which would be pretty neat. Putting aside that there are probably features that we're not even imagining, the improvements that you've mentioned pretty much amount to an improvement in nearly every aspect of the phone.

I'm on a great upgrade rhythm (3G in 2008, 4 in 2010, "5" in 2012) and it definitely sounds good enough for me! It's going to be a long summer! :D
 
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