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More pixels does not equal better quality. Less light is read by each pixel and the sensitivity has to be jacked up to compensate (ie. grainier images.)

3.2MP = 2048 x 1536, the resolution of the iPhone 3GS.
5.0MP = 2592 x 1944, the rumored res of the iPhone XG

Not a big deal for printing larger images - and 3.2 was definitely big enough for most monitors.

it's like the GHz race between AMD and Intel 10 years ago. and i bet the current cameras won't be made anymore since 1 year in tech is an eternity
 
I'm tired of iVidCam for 3G this 3G(s.s) Better have HD 720p Recording or if apple can have 1080p recording!

Are you joking??? HD Recording on the phone, your hardly going to get the full effect of HD from a phone, larger number of pixels are no good if they're all crammed in
 
The network is the problem. Nothing else matters until that is dealt with. Video chat? Where on earth can you do that, in an AT&T laboratory or in 2% of the country?

Camera photos suck so badly compared to even the worst cheap little actual camera that they should only be used if you see Tiger Woods in a supermarket shopping with Madonna naked and you can sell the photo to TMZ and buy a used Ferrari. And a decent camera.
 
The network is the problem. Nothing else matters until that is dealt with. Video chat? Where on earth can you do that, in an AT&T laboratory or in 2% of the country?

Camera photos suck so badly compared to even the worst cheap little actual camera that they should only be used if you see Tiger Woods in a supermarket shopping with Madonna naked and you can sell the photo to TMZ and buy a used Ferrari. And a decent camera.

People outside of the US have iPhones that aren't apparently crippled by their network.

I'm not much into photography so the current camera for me is fine, all they need is flash for nighttime pictures and a front camera for video chat.
 
Are you joking??? HD Recording on the phone, your hardly going to get the full effect of HD from a phone, larger number of pixels are no good if they're all crammed in

I don't mind VGA Quality at native size once it's a 1280x720 resolution bro! Just saves people cropping videos out and making them look like Sh*t and sure didn't some say the 3Gs chip was capable of HD somewhere
 
The network is the problem. Nothing else matters until that is dealt with. Video chat? Where on earth can you do that, in an AT&T laboratory or in 2% of the country?

Camera photos suck so badly compared to even the worst cheap little actual camera that they should only be used if you see Tiger Woods in a supermarket shopping with Madonna naked and you can sell the photo to TMZ and buy a used Ferrari. And a decent camera.

This is reality. Video chat is not happening.

Video chat on a phone is not only dumb, but its not even possible. There is no network to support it. We all know that AT&T has no intention of improving their 3G network, instead they'd rather encourage low-bandwidth consumption. Video chat does not fit in that world.

As far as the camera is concerned, I'm certain we're going to see further improvements beyond the additional 2 megapixels. Since it goes without saying that stuffing in 2 more megapixels would not be an improvement, I think we can trust Apple to realize that, and make other adjustments that are appropriate to mid-2010.
 
night pictures

Those crappy LED flashes have a range of like 3 feet and make everything look like crap. How is that useful at all for night pictures?

The only thing those things are good for are for using them as a flashlight..
 
Who gives a rusty eff about high-res cameras in a phone?!? The damn things have lousy optics to begin with and they're always full of dust from sitting in your pocket all the time. You want to impress me? Put an OLED display on it. You want to really impress me? Make the camera swivel and implement video chat.

You don't want an OLED display. They actually tend to use more battery than LCDs backlit with LEDs.

That and the colors degrade over time, particularly blues.
 
Video chat on a phone is not only dumb, but its not even possible. There is no network to support it. We all know that AT&T has no intention of improving their 3G network, instead they'd rather encourage low-bandwidth consumption. Video chat does not fit in that world.
Apple designs first for the U.S., but sells in plenty of other countries. Is the situation more conducive to videochatting elsewhere?
 
What is the point of a 5MP camera? Cramming more pixels onto a camera-phone sized sensor means that the images (unless in broad daylight) will be very noisy (grainy.) Do people really want to print 11x14 images of their iPhone pictures??

Agree. The current iPhone takes a lot better pictures than any 5MP phone camera I've seen.
 
.32, 1, 3, 5, 8, 16,999 mp, How Many & Why

I was & still am hoping fora built-in camera in the iPod Touch. Maybe then I would think of an iPod Touch as a good purchase. So far I have been very unimpressed with my 64GB iPod Touch. I've been looking for an iTunes replacement for my iPods. Now with the iTunes app store for my iPod Touch I see that nome is available unless I disable certain parts of the iPod Touch. Wait until you loose programs & data from your iPod Touch/iPhone because of the monopoly powers & control that Apple has over it. Backups for backups for the iPod Touch/iPhones appears to be not enough. No wonder we hear terms like jailbreaking by loyal Apple & Mac Users.

The iPod Touch needs to be bigger & thicker to allow some of the needed additions to it will have a place to reside. Small & pretty may look better but does not operate as well or better. An pixel camera would be better than a 0 pixels camera. One can argue how many pixels is best, but 0 has to be the worst or very close to it. An iPhone is out for many people as it requires a new data/cell plan for each.

My Canon digital SLR camera is only 8 mp but I bet that it will give you better shots than these new 15+ mp point & shot camera do. Just compare the size of the lenses on these different camera. The cell phone camera besides being the smallest also probably has the most dirt on its lens. Because sometimes ony a small portion of the photo is wanted cropping must be done Then with a smaller photo to start with it gets enlarged. Having more mp helps make this possible. But with the small physical size of the camera lens in the iPhone it remains to be seen where more mp helps & when it just hurts.
 
The network is the problem. Nothing else matters until that is dealt with. Video chat? Where on earth can you do that, in an AT&T laboratory or in 2% of the country?
"the country" apparently refers to the United States.

Would work just fine where I am. And people here buy iPhones.
 
want to know how to sound like a n00b to a photographer? brag about megapixels. they mean nothing at the range they're currently at. NOTHING. put in better optics, better auto-focus, better glass (lens). then you're talking.
 
not impressed whatsoever, you can put a 20MP camera on iPhone and it would still not make the whole iphone experience any better!

I would rather Apple took care of that low-res screen, bad battery life and you know .. just make the 'phone' better not the camera!

I can't understand this camera on the phone thing anyway .. 3MP is more than enough for a camera phone, if you are wishing to take any bigger pictures on your phone then you are probably doing that for publishing/printing in which case you are barking up a very very wrong tree to begin with. Get a proper camera.
 
If Apple does manage to put a flash on the next gen iPhone, I would be happy. There are times where I am out and take pictures of the kids. Sometimes more just for MMS and/or Emailing of a photo and not as a main camera. I think Apple could do something with making it look integrated around the camera and not a separate white circle.

As for the 5 megapixel camera, I think it is just to say it is there, but I see no need for it as 3.2 works just fine for what I use the pictures for. If I need 12 I will use my Canon camera for those pictures.
 
I'm tired of iVidCam for 3G this 3G(s.s) Better have HD 720p Recording or if apple can have 1080p recording!
Not to be rude, but have you completely lost your mind :p
1080P video recording is something that a lot of DSLR cameras are only beginning to offer or even lacks. It's definitely not something we're going to see any time soon. Not to mention the memory space 1080p video takes up.
Even though it would be nice to have a HD video recording DSLR camera compressed into an iPhone, it is and for long will be an utopian dream.
If you really need these features, you should by a DSLR, although it would be nice to have in your pocket ;)
 
What is the point of a 5MP camera? Cramming more pixels onto a camera-phone sized sensor means that the images (unless in broad daylight) will be very noisy (grainy.) Do people really want to print 11x14 images of their iPhone pictures??

What is the point? Simple - giving an ignorant consumer what he thinks he wants. Ask almost anyone not knowledgeable about the technical aspects of cameras the they will tell you "more MPs are better"
 
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