LOL. i was being sarcastic - but the battery life on the iphone is really a bummer for me and wished apple, of all changes, make this a priority over all else.
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Next-Generation iPhone Set to Carry 5-Megapixel Camera?
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Personally, with even decent light, the iPhone's current camera is good. The addition of the auto-focus in the 3GS makes it the best camera phone I've seen. I don't use my digital camera any more because the iPhone takes pictures that are just as "viewable". I'm not trying to print 11"x14" photos or view these on a giant screen.
Like all technology, temper your expectations and understand the limitations of it. I'd love to see a flash, and I think it would help in taking low light or night pictures, but is there room in the case and will Steve want another hole in the case? As ridiculous as it sounds, Steve has the final say and he has a tendency to not like anything "extra" on the hardware.
Like all technology, temper your expectations and understand the limitations of it. I'd love to see a flash, and I think it would help in taking low light or night pictures, but is there room in the case and will Steve want another hole in the case? As ridiculous as it sounds, Steve has the final say and he has a tendency to not like anything "extra" on the hardware.
An example of Apple thinking it knows better than it's customers. In this case Apple is absolutely right. If you are going to bother putting a camera on a phone, it should produce the best images possible within the contraints of the device. With current sensor technology, this means a 3.2 MP camera. Customers don't always know what is best for them and Apple is actually doing them a favor here. I hope it continues. The last thing I want is *worse* images because Apple felt the need to make the specs look good or "competitive." Or leaving out useful device features to make room for an underpowered flash.
EDIT:
Another site listed this as the potential new photo sensor: OV5650. Supposedly, improved sensor technology retains image quality despite the increase in pixel density. Is capable of shooting 1080p @ 30fps as well (not sure what the actual quality would be with a phone lens though).
5 MP is better than 3 MP
There are situations a small camera with more pixels is better. For example, if you shot a pretty woman at a distance, you can zoom in to take a better look. Another example is taking picture of a group of people. Individual face may be too small on the picture. 5 MP allows you to zoom in and the face will still be clear.
There are situations a small camera with more pixels is better. For example, if you shot a pretty woman at a distance, you can zoom in to take a better look. Another example is taking picture of a group of people. Individual face may be too small on the picture. 5 MP allows you to zoom in and the face will still be clear.
What's really fascinating is how all the hatred of AT&T and their crappy service, dropped calls, poor voice quality, lost signals, few bars, lost voice mails or whatever complaints can be so quickly tossed aside by a simple story as "iPhone to have 5 Mega Pixel Camera!"
Then everybody goes into their, pro or con viewpoints of a 5 MP Camera on the iPhone or need for a flash or a front facing camera. For what? So when you get it, you go back to saying I hate AT&T and their crappy service for absolutely ruining the iPhone experience?
Out of all the replies I have read from the various Rumor/News sites that posted the 5 MP Camera for the iPhone rumor, did I come across one saying...
"Of all the things I wish the iPhone had regarding internals and specs, I wish Apple would put a miniature AT&T MicroCell like contracption to increase AT&T signal strength, since AT&T is apparently not doing enough, fast enough to improve the network, seeing that AT&T is the sole carrier for the iPhone for now and then I wouldn't have to watch on SNL a "news" skit about the iPhone challenge of being a phone!
So, we'll get our 5MP iPhone camera and then it's back to AT&T sucks, I wish the iPhone was on Verizon!
HO! HO!, HO!
Then everybody goes into their, pro or con viewpoints of a 5 MP Camera on the iPhone or need for a flash or a front facing camera. For what? So when you get it, you go back to saying I hate AT&T and their crappy service for absolutely ruining the iPhone experience?
Out of all the replies I have read from the various Rumor/News sites that posted the 5 MP Camera for the iPhone rumor, did I come across one saying...
"Of all the things I wish the iPhone had regarding internals and specs, I wish Apple would put a miniature AT&T MicroCell like contracption to increase AT&T signal strength, since AT&T is apparently not doing enough, fast enough to improve the network, seeing that AT&T is the sole carrier for the iPhone for now and then I wouldn't have to watch on SNL a "news" skit about the iPhone challenge of being a phone!
So, we'll get our 5MP iPhone camera and then it's back to AT&T sucks, I wish the iPhone was on Verizon!
HO! HO!, HO!
only thing I want for the new iphone is a REVOLUTIONARY battery....
seriously.
a 3.2 or 5MP camera is nice....
but the biggest complaint I have with the iphone is the battery.....
seriously.
a 3.2 or 5MP camera is nice....
but the biggest complaint I have with the iphone is the battery.....
Um, they're also talking about the rumored tablet, you know?
But other than that, don't be expecting apple to be realeasing a front-facing camera anytime soon. Maybe next, next summer. But not now..
video chat
i've been thinking that video chat could very well become a possibility. apple has been improving the bandwidth footprint of ichat while increasing its image size. i think that by software they could implement that into the iphone so that it would be a less obscene demand on the network carrier for video chat. aside from cellular video chat the possibility of wifi video chatting is pretty much here. i could see this implemented in the corporate board meetings and such. its not really that big of a deal to pull off. i think that maybe apple is improving the phone so exponentially in its next revision that it may be able to walk away from exclusivity without breach of contract because of "insufficient services" by the network carrier. who knows.
i've been thinking that video chat could very well become a possibility. apple has been improving the bandwidth footprint of ichat while increasing its image size. i think that by software they could implement that into the iphone so that it would be a less obscene demand on the network carrier for video chat. aside from cellular video chat the possibility of wifi video chatting is pretty much here. i could see this implemented in the corporate board meetings and such. its not really that big of a deal to pull off. i think that maybe apple is improving the phone so exponentially in its next revision that it may be able to walk away from exclusivity without breach of contract because of "insufficient services" by the network carrier. who knows.
No kidding. While I'm not saying "make the camera suck," it's never going to be as good as a dedicated camera device. I just want Apple to work on the picture quality more than how many megapixels the camera is. But this is hardly a dealbreaker for most sane people. If you want to take a picture, buy a camera.
Given that the camera has a crappy lens and a high noise sensor, all a flash will do is give horribly distorted and useless pictures at night.
Not to be rude, but have you completely lost your mind
1080P video recording is something that a lot of DSLR cameras are only beginning to offer or even lacks. It's definitely not something we're going to see any time soon. Not to mention the memory space 1080p video takes up.
Even though it would be nice to have a HD video recording DSLR camera compressed into an iPhone, it is and for long will be an utopian dream.
If you really need these features, you should by a DSLR, although it would be nice to have in your pocket
Not to be rude, but I was just thinking different
All I'm saying is iPhone 2G to 3G was big because of 3G and Apps. 3G to 3Gs was big because of Video, 3.0 and being faster. 3Gs to what ever Apple needs to pull something big out of the bag rather than 1.8MPS more. They would deff need at least 720p Recording and Playback.... Oooh new iPhone name:
iPhone HD
Everyone complains about wanting more features, and then everyone complains about the battery life! Of course it's going to die in 5 minutes if you're running AIM, games, the camera, iPod, phone, locations services, Safari, 3G, etc all at the same time! Unless you want a phone the size of a brick, there's no way a battery is going to last that long doing everything you want it to. I imagine that HD recording and playback will kill the battery in about 1hr.
Very true,
you can make it last a lot longer by changing some simple settings and stopping some services after your done.
Please be reminded that it is more of a marketing gimmick. I know people who refuse to buy an iPhone because the camera is only 2mp (regardless of its general quality, which imo is pretty good for the specs).
That said, the iPhone having a 2mp camera is just not very good for business.
I've been having this MegaPixel argument for ages with uninformed idiots and its refreshing to read a thread where everyone pretty much agree's.
However its amazing how many suckers will fall for the marketing hype of companies like Sony Ericsson stuffing 12Mp camera in their latest phone.
I wish I could force everyone to see this 45 second clip cut from a UK TV show where they projected a 2.2Meg picture onto a 50 foot cinema screen to give them a bit of an embarressing reality check
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6IeBFOovck
However its amazing how many suckers will fall for the marketing hype of companies like Sony Ericsson stuffing 12Mp camera in their latest phone.
I wish I could force everyone to see this 45 second clip cut from a UK TV show where they projected a 2.2Meg picture onto a 50 foot cinema screen to give them a bit of an embarressing reality check
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6IeBFOovck
Right - if Blu-ray is just under 2.1 Mpixel, why does a phone with a plastic lens and tiny sensor need much more than that?
Then you must not have seen a lot of 3mp cameras.
Perhaps you can tell me what Apple just implemented in the last revision?
Yeah, lets make the iPhone more appealing to socially and photographically challenged stalkers.
And even lowly Blu-ray resolution is completely wasted on a display of less than 40 inches because you can't tell the difference at sizes smaller than that anyway.
Bigger pictures = more memory required
Even if picture quality is worse due to smaller sensors, it's in apple's interest to have you take larger pics that require more disk space. That way you run out faster and think about upgrading your phone sooner.
Even if picture quality is worse due to smaller sensors, it's in apple's interest to have you take larger pics that require more disk space. That way you run out faster and think about upgrading your phone sooner.
That depends on how close you are sitting from the display. Even a 24" display is noticeable if you are onlly a few feet away.And even lowly Blu-ray resolution is completely wasted on a display of less than 40 inches because you can't tell the difference at sizes smaller than that anyway.
Personally, I would like to see a better lens + optical zoom rather than greater resolution. If it means I have to carry a camera less often, then great.
