I was given a upgraded (PC) a month ago for work with built in broadband running AT&T. I put in my sim card and it runds at 7.2mbps. It's different hardware but on the same AT&T 3G network and its a huge difference. I am in the Washington DC suburbs.
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Next-Generation iPhone to Have "Faster Internet Speeds"?
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I was given a upgraded (PC) a month ago for work with built in broadband running AT&T. I put in my sim card and it runds at 7.2mbps. It's different hardware but on the same AT&T 3G network and its a huge difference. I am in the Washington DC suburbs.
From the Electronista:
So this new chipset will not only allow faster downloads/uploads in general, but also make video conferencing possible and reduce power.
Sounds like iPhone 3 might be a worthwhile upgrade.
So this new chipset will not only allow faster downloads/uploads in general, but also make video conferencing possible and reduce power.
Sounds like iPhone 3 might be a worthwhile upgrade.
It seems pretty ineffective to put 802.11n or faster 7.2 Mbps 3G chipsets in the iPhone. If Apple is really interested in improving the Internet performance of the iPhone, they'll work on the rendering speed of the browser, adding more memory and a faster processor to the device so that applications that use networking services can take full advantage of the existing pipes.
don't any of you guys have N networks at your homes? i have a time capsule and want to switch it to N, but i would like my phone to work on the network for a variety of reasons including having the "remote" application work right between the iphone and my macbook pro. so for me it's a compatibility issue and not a speed issue in wanting to see N on the iphone.
I'd buy it, even if they just repackaged the 3G iphone with 3.0 software and call it a day....as long as the capacity is increased to 32gb that is.
Maybe it was misunderstood, and Apple integrates it's new (faster) Safari browser into the iPhone 3.0 software.
well, i hope they release a new iphone in june. with fast tethering i might upgrade if it's a subsidized $200 deal.
I always feel sorry for americans when they're getting excited over 3G phones, and compaining of only getting EDGE speeds in certain areas...
Ahh the good 'ole days of 2001
Unfortunately, it just comes with living in such a spread out country. The population density in the US is a lot lower than Europe, so it takes more equipment to cover the entire country. This means that the carrier is going to try to leverage the installed technology as long as possible before performing system wide upgrades.
It has to be 7.2 Mbps 3G as that is pretty much standard among its competitors nowadays. Also it's just a software upgrade for even semi-modern Ericsson base stations. For that matter, Ericsson released the 14.4. Mbps base station upgrade kit some time ago...
I sure hope it's faster 3G speeds because some of the Docomo phones in Japan made my iPhone look sluggish in comparison.
Though, I'd choose usability over faster internet speeds any day. The phones there are so restrictive when it comes to DRM and stuff; and more importantly they're not very mac-friendly.
Don't wanna sound like a fanboy but I hope Apple keeps to pave the way for mobile phonesthen we'll have other companies making better phones to compete for my hard-earned money lol.
Though, I'd choose usability over faster internet speeds any day. The phones there are so restrictive when it comes to DRM and stuff; and more importantly they're not very mac-friendly.
Don't wanna sound like a fanboy but I hope Apple keeps to pave the way for mobile phonesthen we'll have other companies making better phones to compete for my hard-earned money lol.
So why is Apple not building iPhones that can be upgraded solely through software rather than new equipment -- STOP THE PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE!
It would be cool if they changed MobileSafari to work more like Opera Mini or Skyfire, where the rendering happens on a server up in the cloud, much faster and much more useful. With services like that, we wouldn't need Flash plugins that way.
Apple could make this claim simply by adding draft-N and I'm guessing that's going to be the improvement.
My broadband maxes out at 20 Mbps and is only $10 more than a basic plan.
I find it humorous how wireless providers in the US made bold claims about their data service, only for it to be revealed how immature their hardware was by the release of a single device.
I didn't want the hardware advancements to stop with the 2G and I don't want them to stop with the 3G. A number of people in this thread have already mentioned that the raw processing power could be a bottle neck in rendering web pages [among other things]. Give us more, Apple.
My broadband maxes out at 20 Mbps and is only $10 more than a basic plan.
I find it humorous how wireless providers in the US made bold claims about their data service, only for it to be revealed how immature their hardware was by the release of a single device.
I didn't want the hardware advancements to stop with the 2G and I don't want them to stop with the 3G. A number of people in this thread have already mentioned that the raw processing power could be a bottle neck in rendering web pages [among other things]. Give us more, Apple.
42 Mbit/s won't do anything when I still have 1 bar at my house :'(.
What are you talking about? Did you not notice that little event on Tuesday about this little thing called iPhone OS 3.0?
Oh, you were talking about the cell chips in the phones? I hate to break it to you, but you can't just say "let's make a phone that can be upgraded through software instead of hardware" and then have it magically happen. The reason the first iPhone was EDGE and not 3G is because they just didn't have energy efficient 3G chips to use. It's not like everyone has stockpiles of super efficient 4G chips just sitting around that they don't want you to use yet....
hehe.. I wonder how much this 3G ver2 will drain the battery..
They should do a buyout on a battery company and stop wasting their time with unnecessary gimmick like HSPDA 7.2.. Which will be replaced in 2-3 years with 4G..
They should do a buyout on a battery company and stop wasting their time with unnecessary gimmick like HSPDA 7.2.. Which will be replaced in 2-3 years with 4G..
sounds like new iPhone will be capable of HSDPA.
For those in US, this is something networks in Europe have rolled out over the last 12-18months. A number of devices over here are already capable of using this.
Be good seeing this in next iPhone for sure
I wonder if it will support HSUPA. On O2 Mobile Broadband which is essentially the same service as the iPhone 3G I'm getting 1.5Mbps upload speeds.
Well said. It does suck living somewhere so big like the US. Makes rolling out technology like this very expensive. Then it always goes to the popular areas first like LA and New York. What I would give to be able to live in a small country sometimes
Its funny how people call iPhones those days; no wonder that everyone is so confused:
-iPhone 3G 2.0?
-iPhone 4G?
-iPhone 2G
-iPhone AV
-original iPhone
...and bla bla. Even on eBay they call iPhone 3G as third generation!!! I don't have to explain what 3G means and etc because we all know this stuff very well. Its just sad that its hasn't been clarified yet what is what.
I understand the posters frustration with the fact that Apple can only upgrade the phone with a hardware revision instead of a software update. The other night when 3.0 was announced, a podcast I listen to praised apple for distancing itself from other phone makers by showing that it can support its phone through software rather than hardware updates (unlike some phone makers who release a new phone every month!)
I will be pretty dissapointed if Apple announces any new drastic updates in its hardware revision this year (if one happens) because it might make them look like all of the other phone makers. The iPhone hardware is amazing, and as apple showed with the 3.0 preview, they can still do a heck of a lot with the current hardware.
So I really hope Apple waits on this one and shows that its 3.0 software can stand on its own without new hardware. This would send a strong message to all of those manufacturers who create phones and then immediately work on the next revision without supporting its previous hardware: the software is more important than you think.
I remember when I originally tries to buy the iPhone, someone tried to sell me another touchscreen phone saying that it was comparable. But the first thing that popped into my mind was that I KNEW Apple would support their phone way more than Samsung or whoever it was would. 3.0 is a testament to this fact.
Sorry for possibly derailing, but I feel some frustration with this "announcement" as it kind of makes what apple has built so far look weak because it goes against this importance of software updates and makes them look like every other phone manufacturer. I really hope they wait this one out and do a hardware revision with LTE when it is ready
I will be pretty dissapointed if Apple announces any new drastic updates in its hardware revision this year (if one happens) because it might make them look like all of the other phone makers. The iPhone hardware is amazing, and as apple showed with the 3.0 preview, they can still do a heck of a lot with the current hardware.
So I really hope Apple waits on this one and shows that its 3.0 software can stand on its own without new hardware. This would send a strong message to all of those manufacturers who create phones and then immediately work on the next revision without supporting its previous hardware: the software is more important than you think.
I remember when I originally tries to buy the iPhone, someone tried to sell me another touchscreen phone saying that it was comparable. But the first thing that popped into my mind was that I KNEW Apple would support their phone way more than Samsung or whoever it was would. 3.0 is a testament to this fact.
Sorry for possibly derailing, but I feel some frustration with this "announcement" as it kind of makes what apple has built so far look weak because it goes against this importance of software updates and makes them look like every other phone manufacturer. I really hope they wait this one out and do a hardware revision with LTE when it is ready
Whoa! The rumors on this new iPhone are making it pretty darn impressive... hopefully the 2.5G (long live iPhone 1!) will be replaced by this.
So it's pretty known that 802.11n does nothing for internet use.
But 802.11n drastically improves wireless transfer rates over locals networks
So what if:
802.11n == wireless sync of wifi?
assuming they have 802.11n chips that have extremely low power draw or even like the Zune and be able to do this when connect to a power source.
But 802.11n drastically improves wireless transfer rates over locals networks
So what if:
802.11n == wireless sync of wifi?
assuming they have 802.11n chips that have extremely low power draw or even like the Zune and be able to do this when connect to a power source.
When is ATT going to upgrade the service they currently offer in NY? I recently took a trip to San Francisco and was immediately faced with the reality that my iPhone 3G service in New York City is very different from what I was experiencing in San Francisco. The constant pinwheel, the missed calls that go straight to voicemail. And why doesn't ATT work in the train tunnels between NY and NJ? My Verizon phone for work has worked through the tunnels flawlessly for years. How can ATT not have addressed these issues when they have had YEARS to upgrade?
I would love to see an upgrade but I fear us city dwellers will never realize the enhanced speed as we can't even experience 3G as it was designed.
grrrrr.
I would love to see an upgrade but I fear us city dwellers will never realize the enhanced speed as we can't even experience 3G as it was designed.
grrrrr.
Hopefully it will be around August that a new iphone is released. That way I can pay a reasonable price to cancel my current plan. Please please please more battery life!