I hope the new phone is released at WWDC '09. Is that too much to ask for with the release of Snow Leopard as well? Would they release them at the same event? What do you guys think?
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Next-Generation iPhone to Have "Faster Internet Speeds"?
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I apologise if this has been asked but what month is the WWDC 09 is it July?
Will it be "Ludicrous speed?"
or even "Plaid?"
Hopefully, Dark Helmet. Yay Spaceballs!
Offering different speeds supports the rumors we have heard of different data plan pricing tiers. I'll take EDGE speed for $20 or $50 for tethering + the new fancy speedy 3G. I know, wishful thinking on my part for that last price.
Damn, great... so they're reeling us in to fork out another $200 dollars for speed upgrade. Double my 3G speed? Please don't tell me Apple didn't know about this.
Open links as new tabs in the background. That is how I operate on the computer, once I get to the tab it has had enough time to load and render. Essentially, I want the iPhone to load and render stuff in the background while I read another page.
If it is only a speed change that is in the new model, I can deal with keeping my 3G. If not, I'll have to buy the new one, because I roll like that .
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I agree with you on 802.11n in the iPhone because the iPhone does need a faster Processor to utilise the speed it already has (Safari Rendering and such).
But I don't agree on Gigabit ethernet. Even a single drive external NAS for £60 will go over 10/100 Ethernet. Remember that 100Mb/ps ethernet is 12.5MB/ps a single hard disk today in the 320-1TB region (which are common) will hit 70MB/ps read and 60MB/ps Write. With the more expensive drives like 1TB Seagates and Samsungs hitting 90MB/ps read. 1000Mb Ethernet is only 125MB/ps which means it is needed in Home networks (but not for Internet access, yet).
I personally have a home NAS that I built for £500 that hits 500MB/ps (MB not Mb) I max out the 125MB/ps of 1000 Ethernet pretty much every time I write to that NAS. But I'm not usually transferring files that take more then 30 Seconds so I've not rectified the situation. My point is even in an affordable area the 1Gb link is right now needed in a lot of usage scenarios especially when the next speed down is a miniscule 100. Maybe if it was 500 it'd be a different kettle of fish.
Its funny how people call iPhones those days; no wonder that everyone is so confused:
-iPhone 3G 2.0?
-iPhone 4G?
-iPhone 2G
-iPhone AV
-original iPhone
...and bla bla. Even on eBay they call iPhone 3G as third generation!!! I don't have to explain what 3G means and etc because we all know this stuff very well. Its just sad that its hasn't been clarified yet what is what.
The new iPhone that comes out on Memorial Day will be called "iPhone 3G^2" as in 3G-square, hehe
Seriously though, the planned update is 7.2 Mbps and shooting for end of May - this is straight from an insider at Infineon.
They could also be updating the WiFi to draft N, but since it's a Broadcom chip I don't have that info.
-Marc
If my iPhone 3G only ran nearly as fast as I have already been promised, I'd be very happy. Often, this thing runs no faster than my old 2G iPhone did on the EDGE network. Usually I look at lawsuits with a certain sense of disgust, but I can sympathize with those of us disappointed by the lack of delivery on the advertised performance of 3G. It seems like it is all AT&T's fault and I don't understand how Apple gets swept up as a co-defendant. They ought to be co-plaintiffs!
What it won't be
What we won't see in the next iPhone:
7.6Mbps HSUPA
802.11n Wifi
32GB
Front facing camera / iChat
OLED screen
Faster processor
All have been rumoured, but it's just too good to be all true, and we know we always hype it up too much and end up being a little let down when the announcement finally arrives.
I think I'd settle for any two from that list.
What we won't see in the next iPhone:
7.6Mbps HSUPA
802.11n Wifi
32GB
Front facing camera / iChat
OLED screen
Faster processor
All have been rumoured, but it's just too good to be all true, and we know we always hype it up too much and end up being a little let down when the announcement finally arrives.
I think I'd settle for any two from that list.
I was thinking about this earlier today. I think the majority of smartphone swill be going to 7.2 Mbps/HSUPA (most are there already in the EU) and 11n as broadcom have a single chip solution.
In the UK, all the networks are upto 3.6 Mbps and most are rolling out 7.2 Mbps as we speak. Certainly T-mobile said they would be at 14.4 Mbps by next year.
In the UK, all the networks are upto 3.6 Mbps and most are rolling out 7.2 Mbps as we speak. Certainly T-mobile said they would be at 14.4 Mbps by next year.
I'm telling you guys the next iphone will have 4G capability...while the service might not be up yet, I'd bet money the next iphone will support it.
No, it will not have 4G. Its way too early for iPhone to have even suitable chip for 4G; besides there is no definition of 4G yet so how the hell apple knows what 4G will be? Taken from Wikipedia:
"There is no formal definition for what 4G is[dated info]; however, there are certain objectives that are projected for 4G. These objectives include: that 4G will be a fully IP-based integrated system. 4G will be capable of providing between 100 Mbit/s and 1 Gbit/s speeds both indoors and outdoors, with premium quality and high security. [1]
Many companies[specify] have taken self-serving definitions and distortions[neutrality disputed]about 4G to suggest they have 4G already in existence today[verification needed], such as several early trials and launches of WiMAX. Other companies have made prototype systems calling those 4G. While it is possible that some currently demonstrated technologies may become part of 4G, until the 4G standard or standards have been defined[dated info], it is impossible[citation needed] for any company currently to provide with any certainty[opinion needs balancing] wireless solutions that could be called 4G cellular networks that would conform to the eventual international standards for 4G. These confusing statements around "existing" 4G have served to confuse investors and analysts about the wireless industry"
The same story is with Blue-ray player; they still waiting to implement it in their hardware but that is totally different subject all together. Blue-ray is already finished and Apple running away from optical drive wherever they can===>MacBook Air
A couple of people have already mentioned this but I'm hoping for Evolved HSPA (HSPA+) support. That'll get the fastest speed out of the best network here.
Yes--compare a desktop Mac to an iPhone on the same WiFi network (both set to G) and you can tell that processor speed and/or graphics rendering power is a big factor. A faster processor alone could be enough to speed up the browsing experience. A move to N does seem likely too though.
I haven't read the whole thread but the first 1.5 pages worth and no one so far in that actually realised the iPhone already supports up to 7.2Mbit HSDPA.
So if it's to get faster, I suspect they mean HSUPA is added for faster uploads.
Here's a speed test I did around the time of the iPhone 3G came out on O2 in the UK. We've had 7.2Mbit for a while (Long before the iPhone 3G came out).
It needs a faster CPU to get faster Internet.
So if it's to get faster, I suspect they mean HSUPA is added for faster uploads.
Here's a speed test I did around the time of the iPhone 3G came out on O2 in the UK. We've had 7.2Mbit for a while (Long before the iPhone 3G came out).
It needs a faster CPU to get faster Internet.
I would argue about :
- iChat with camera;
Surely new iPhone will have video recording because of few facts (look few stories back) and official from apple about youtube account personalization. What do you need that for? Of course...record and upload. From there you one step to have iChat. Front camera?... patent already sent by apple and they will do it behind screen. Unless they won't do it because they will simply run out of good features for next iPhone after this one.
- Faster processor
They need that for smooth video recording and its natural progression
- 32 gig
Hmm...not sure about this one because i think 16 gb its enough for me personally and any increase of that flash memory cost fortune. If apple wants keep iPhone considerably cheaep, then yes, forget about 32gb, which is still expensive to implement yet. Also I have found very interesting comment about this:
"...Um one teeny tiny problem that may or may not apply. I am not sure of the speed at which flash memory is increasing it's capacity, however from what I have understood it is proably not going faster than moore's law and therefore flash memory cannot keep doubling every year for forever so that may be looking a bit too far into the future."
Wireless Lan N would not make the internet faster because it's the processor that is limiting the speeds right now, not the WiFi.
7.2 3G could make a difference thought and should have been included in the first place since it's already available on some european networks.
7.2 3G could make a difference thought and should have been included in the first place since it's already available on some european networks.