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Next-Generation iPhone to Have "Faster Internet Speeds"?

I agree with everyone that says that page rendering needs to be sped up. Even on my home broadband connection over Wifi (17mbps) Safari is slow because of the time it takes to render.

It'd also be really nice if the new iPhone had enough RAM so that Safari tabs weren't swapped out every time you switch to a different one. That really pisses me off.
 
Luap said:
Its got a gigabit ethernet socket on it.
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Yeah, sure, riiiight...and FireWire 800 no doubt. ;) :D

Beric said:
Wireless N doesn't do downloads any faster than Wireless G. It's the device-to-device traffic that's faster. The only thing Wireless N would do is make it so the iPhone could work on N-only networks, which would be a bonus.
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Um, I'm fairly certain that downloads/uploads are much faster on N than G. :confused: I use my iMac and iPod touch frequently with both, and G is just miserably pokey. It's almost like being on dial-up. ;)
 
meh,
I notice no difference in speed between gen 1 and the 3g as it is, sorting out the dropped calls and crap reception is more of a priority for me, after all unless the thing is usable as a Phone :eek: then the other bells and whistles are a moot point...

Edit: Come on Apple sort it out and make a world wide cellular network and let us pay a flat monthly fee that includes calls from whereever we are on the planet, you have the cash and people need mobile providers that make no distinction between countries.
 
I would bet they just mean faster browsing. the iphone networking hardware is quite capable, but the iphone is slow as molasses at computing and displaying what it receives, even over 802.11g it's pathetically slow; that's not to imply that anyone else does it any better though.

to demonstrate the slowness, load slashdot.org over 3g on your iphone, and then load it on a notebook that's using pdanet to use the iphones 3g connection. loading it on the phone takes 15-30 seconds on average, while loading it on the notebook using the same network to provide the data is more like 1-2 seconds. you can substitute slashdot.org with any number of complex sites and see similar results.

upping the power of the iphone so it could render pages as fast as it can download them would result in "faster internet speeds" in the eyes of users.

while I'm bitchign about slowness, I'd also hope they put a lot more memory in the next iphone. I'd love to be able to switch between a bunch of "tabs", without each one reloading the page when I go back to it. you can sometimes get away with it if a website opens another basic site in a new tab, you read it and close it and the original site doesnt insist on reloading, but 95% of the time it acts like you've restarted safari and re-renders the unchanged page (taking 15-30 seconds for a complex site).
 
I heard President Obama said the current 3G speeds from ATT were not that "fast" and "a bit retarded", but then realized he mispoke, apologized to ATT ,and was forgiven. He now says he is eager as are all Americans to embrace such change. Nancy Pelosi is already drafting a bill to ciphon 75-90% of the bandwith because it is incomprehensible to do such a thing at a time like this.
 

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branjosef said:
I heard President Obama said the current 3G speeds from ATT were not that "fast" and "a bit retarded", but then realized he mispoke, apologized to ATT ,and was forgiven. He now says he is eager as are all Americans to embrace such change. Nancy Pelosi is already drafting a bill to ciphon 75-90% of the bandwith because it is incomprehensible to do such a thing at a time like this.
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He actually used the word "retarded"? GTFO!! :D :D

What's next?


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"Oh. My. God. Becky, look at her butt, it is SO big!"

:D :D :D
 
Hmm...faster internet, multi-core, video ichat, push notifications...the next iPhone is shaping up to be a pretty sweet update! :D Apple must be really scared about the Palm Pre. I have a feeling Apple will be pushing video in the next update, especially with Apple's new video optimization that was demoed with the ESPN app. Yet I shouldn't get my hopes up cause usually what I think should happen and what actually end up happening are usually two different things.
 
StuffOfInterest said:
Unfortunately, it just comes with living in such a spread out country. The population density in the US is a lot lower than Europe, so it takes more equipment to cover the entire country. This means that the carrier is going to try to leverage the installed technology as long as possible before performing system wide upgrades.
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Then how come Australia with even less population density outside the major citys can have 21MB/s UTMS network? No, its just ATT like normal is raping everybody for every penny they can.
 
MacRumors said:


Silicon Alley Insider reports on rumors from a mobile industry source saying that the next-generation iPhone will have "a significantly faster Internet connection." While no further information is given as to whether this is referring to cellular or Wi-Fi connectivity, Silicon Alley Insider lays out some possibilities based on what is known about the state of the technology.Electronista provides more detail on AT&T's plans for faster 3G running at 7.2 Mbps, up from the 3.6 Mbps speed of the current network.Electronista also points to the possibility of a new Broadcom 802.11n chipset being used in the next-generation iPhone to bring increased Wi-Fi speeds.

Article Link: Next-Generation iPhone to Have "Faster Internet Speeds"?
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You guys might want to consider and take this little bit of news down.

The current iphone according to a poster for the article you were referring to displayed the specs for the current 3G chipset. I will repost them here for your viewing pleasure.

http://www.infineon.com/cms/en/product/findProductTypeByName.html?q=SGOLD3H

I am averaging speeds in excess of 1mp down usually 1.5 down on average. 3g on the iphone is fast. My area is also in a 3.5 HSDPA area.
 
calvy said:
802.11n is not going to increase your internet speeds when your broadband connection maxes out at 10Meg anyway. 802.11b is enough for most everyone. And you really don't have much of a need for fast network speeds at home unless you go against Apple's will and jailbreak.
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But, if the iPhone is 802.11n instead of 802.11b/g the iPhone joining your home Wireless LAN will not make the whole wireless lan scale down to 802.11b/g speeds. So while most of you probably don't need 802.11n in your phone, it will be better for your overall wireless network performance.
 
JMac213 said:
The gen 2 iPhone is very slow to browse with, even when on wifi. 802.11b/g is infinitely faster than anybody's dsl so bringing it to 802.11n isn't going to make any difference. what they are referring to is a probably a much needed software upgrade.

btw - "the nations fastest 3g network" seems to be just faster than a modem.
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Not entirely true, as I can get 50/6Mbit cable here and 100/100Mbit fibre....
 
Beric said:
Wireless N doesn't do downloads any faster than Wireless G. It's the device-to-device traffic that's faster. The only thing Wireless N would do is make it so the iPhone could work on N-only networks, which would be a bonus.
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It would improve the signal quality, which would improve the speed of actual data.

Correct, g is 54 Mbit/s (nominally), how fast is your internet connection? My cable modem is rated at 25 Mbit/s and that is the fastest on offer in my city.
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Yes, but you're not actually getting 54Mbps. That's peak throughput when you're nudging the base station with your iPhone. Switching to 802.11n doubles the usable range (by using multiple antennas and the 5Ghz band), making it more likely for you to be in a spot where the WiFi speed can provide all the speed of your internet connection.

The greater speed could also be perceived speed from a faster processor rendering pages sooner than the current iPhone 3G.
 
4np said:
Not entirely true, as I can get 50/6Mbit cable here and 100/100Mbit fibre....
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Well they'd need a really fast processor to take advantage of these speeds in browsing because it's CPU intensive to render the pages. Even more so for a mobile browser I imagine because it cannot just show the pictures and text as it's piped down but both need to be scaled to fit the screen and zoom level. You don't generally need to zoom in and out on a desktop / laptop so they don't have that problem.

No doubt if they added in N wireless you'd be able to download podcasts, etc at lightning speeds though :)

As for the 3G and 7.2MBit. So many people in this thread still don't understand that the current iPhone 3G has supported it all along. Just because AT&T hasn't enabled it doesn't mean it doesn't exist or work in parts of the world where we have faster 3G networks already.

Also contension is always a big problem on mobile phone networks. In London I'll never drop off a 7.2Mbit HSDPA connection but there is so many people connected it isn't as fast as less dense areas. That screenshot I posted with me clocking in over 6MBit was reached in the middle of no where in Wales. I didn't see any sheep browsing on any 3G phones so I probably almost had the whole tower to myself :) The phone can do it, but even when AT&T turn on 7.2Mbit it ain't gonna be all that much quicker in the big cities.
 
Why wouldn't they add LTE compatability?
If Apple wants to stay ahead and force next-gen tech they should make the iphone the first LTE smartphone...
 
a lot of internet speed has to do with the device processing the information. My att laptop card is fast as hell (still 3.6) but my mbp. Might suggest hardware upgrades??
 
Not sure if anyone brought this up already or not - didn't read all the previous pages, but...

How would "faster internet speeds" help anything? I mean maybe downloading songs/apps etc it would slightly help, but for regular browsing, it wouldn't help at all what so ever. Currently what's limiting page load speeds isn't the internet speed but rather how fast mobile safari can render the said pages.

For example I can take any regular desktop or laptop computer, put it on a 768Kbit connection. Take the iPhone and connect it via WiFi to a network with a 10Mbit connection, and the computer would still render the page faster simply because it can process the data MUCH faster then the iPhone.

Just something to think about...
 
simulacra said:
Why wouldn't they add LTE compatability?
If Apple wants to stay ahead and force next-gen tech they should make the iphone the first LTE smartphone...
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So Apple should put LTE in to the iPhone now, when there's no functioning LTE network - ANYWHERE? Apple also has to give you a reason to buy the iPhone in 2011 when LTE should be readily available. Afterall, Apple is in business to make money, why would you buy the new iPhone in 2011 if your 2009 iphone could do the same thing?

Let me know if you ever start your own company or become a CEO, CIO, CTO of a publicly traded company - so I know who NOT to invest with.

Furthermore, the faster speeds will of course include better rendering on the iPhone itself as well as 3.5G @ 7.2Mbs. AT&T has been upgrading their network and the faster speeds of 3.5G are available on some USB modems though AT&T. I also agree with most here the AT&T needs to work on their coverage. I hope you get your wish their.
 
InkMaster said:
How would "faster internet speeds" help anything? I mean maybe downloading songs/apps etc it would slightly help, but for regular browsing, it wouldn't help at all what so ever. Currently what's limiting page load speeds isn't the internet speed but rather how fast mobile safari can render the said pages.

For example I can take any regular desktop or laptop computer, put it on a 768Kbit connection. Take the iPhone and connect it via WiFi to a network with a 10Mbit connection, and the computer would still render the page faster simply because it can process the data MUCH faster then the iPhone.

Just something to think about...
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To further illustrate your point, my dial-up at home consistently tests at 22 kbps
(which is about 1/2 speed of a normal dial-up). The MacBook on this connection
renders pages MUCH, MUCH faster than the iPhone on a 16 megabit cable line.
 
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