The only fab with a 22nm process is Intel and they are letting a select few third parties use it. That's why there is no chance. Samsung's 28nm fab isn't volume producing. Apple doesn't use TSMC or UMC. That's why it's not happening.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Next-Generation iPhone to Use A6 System-on-a-Chip?
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
The only fab with a 22nm process is Intel and they are letting a select few third parties use it. That's why there is no chance. Samsung's 28nm fab isn't volume producing. Apple doesn't use TSMC or UMC. That's why it's not happening.
The leaks are most likely done by extremely poor asian manufacturing workers with low quality cell phones as their only cameras.
Not everyone has a nice fancy camera in this world.
my god chill i was just stating what would in theory be the best possible result of the iphone 5 using an a6 chip.
Ahem, no.
If history has shown us anything, it is that until the iPad (early 2012) and the upcoming iPhone (late 2012), the all of the iPads and overlaping iPhones with the 'same' chips had comparable resolutions.
1024x768 is around .8 MP, 960x640 is around .6 MP, a difference of 25%, about the same as the 20% difference in chip clocks.
This generation, iPad is at around 3.2 MP and the next iPhone will be around .8 MP. That's not 25%, that's a 300% difference, so everything we have known from 'history' falls right down the toilet.
Hmmm,
"iPhone dropping numbers"? now that would be a really cool name
Sorry, but you are making this too easy
People keep throwing that word arround "innovative" but what do u mean? What do u want it to have? Wings? U really think apple or even steve jobs for that matter will completely overhaul a product that breaks sales records every year?
If u ask me, this is exactly what steve jobs would do!
My bad, I should have probably made my sarcasm clearerPeople keep throwing that word arround "innovative" but what do u mean? What do u want it to have? Wings? U really think apple or even steve jobs for that matter will completely overhaul a product that breaks sales records every year?
If u ask me, this is exactly what steve jobs would do!
Samsung's 28nm fab? Do you mean 32nm? Or do they have a 28nm as well?
Apple's already been using the 32nm HKMG process from Samsung for a while now in the iPad 2,4. There's no doubt in my mind that the iPhone 5 will be at 32nm.
Samsung has 28nm too. I don't know who plans to use it though. We should see something next year most likely.
unless Apple can hammer out an exclusivity agreement with TSMC, they won't be switching from Samsung. TSMC may be the 3rd largest fabricator, but they are a distant third.
http://www.electroiq.com/articles/sst/2012/04/2011-semiconductor-sales-rankings.html
That list is a list of IC vendors and contains fabless designers (e.g. Nvidia), fabs (e.g. UMC) and ones who are both (e.g. Intel).
Not sure how/why. It's a Qualcomm chipset, Qualcomm would have all the patents, and permissions to sell their chips that communicate over LTE networks.
----------
Samsung in 2H13
http://www.electronicsnews.com.au/news/samsung-to-refurbish-us-fab-cater-to-28nm-logic-ch
There are a lot of companies with IP in LTE. Just because Qualcomm makes the chip doesn't mean it's not based on the tech developed by other companies.
It's a known fact that Samsung has aroud 12% of the LTE patents.
Apple was being sued for the implementation of a standard (I think it was WiFi) because the chip they bought from a third party vendor used the technology. People do have the audacity.
Thanks. Hopefully their rollout is smoother than TSMC's.
You realise 1, the 5 had been designed and no rout the next iPhone whilst Steve was still alive?? 2, most of the lawsuits apple is facing at the moment were going on long before jobs passed away!
Considering you obviously have no idea what you are talking about, let's get you on the right track before this gets way over your head.
First off, iPads are tablets, which are bigger and pack more power in them than phones.
Second, whenever Apple has upgraded their CPU in their mobile devices (A4, A5, A5X, etc.) they have always added more and more power to them each time.
Third, ever since the iPad originally came out, they have continually put the new CPU in the iPad first, and then put the same one in the iPhone with less power.
So considering those three basic points that history has clearly shown us, please, try you very best to make an argument where Apple will put an A6 in the next iPhone.
It really doesn't matter what argument you have for it because it will be absolutely stupid and won't make sense.
A number increment on the chip means additional power. It always has. So give me one good solid argument why Apple is going to change that now. Oh right, there is no good argument.
If anything, Apple would put just another A5 in the next iPhone. They will not bring in a new CPU and have their CELL PHONE slower than their FULL SIZED TABLET. That would be absolutely ridiculous. And there were already reports of the A6 incorporating a quad-core CPU. And if those are true, there is no way Apple will put the A6 in a phone before a full sized tablet. That is why the A6 won't debut until next year.
So please, try and convince me that Apple will make their cell phone more powerful than their full sized tablet.
Apple will put the A5X in the new iPhone. History has shown us that clearly. As for the specifics of power consumption and how many GPU cores they have running, that is still up for debate. But if previous rumors of the A6 being quad core are true, there is no way it will be in the iPhone before the iPad.
Not buying that. They'll shrink the die on the A5 and give it a clock bump. No way they'll put a quad core GPU in the iPhone.