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If the iPod Touch does come out with a 128gb version, I kinda wonder if that will be the end of the Classic or if the Classic will be bumped up to 250gb or that ball park......

There are a bunch of 3rd party places that upgrade iPod Classic hard drives, some w/ 240 GB drives. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple discontinues the iPod Classic this year. Sad, yes, but inevitable w/ all this attention to iOS devices.
 
For other devices, I fully expect that you'll be able to use your mobileme account name as a key into that database, etc.

But that requires configuration and account set up. The "magical" aspect of Facetime was that it is suppose to "just work". No account set up .... just magically works by pressing the button.

If you have to have a account that means you have to sign up for one.

Conceptually it would more likely be an Apple ID ( iTunes , etc. ) account since they pragmatically make you get one of those when you get the iPod device. However, that suffers from the same fundamental issue that mobileme also suffers from; device uniqueness. Your Apple ID is associated with multiple devices. Likewise your Mobile me account can also be associated with multiple devices. They need an ID that is associated with one person and one device. A telephone number has that property. If you have multiple phones, you get multiple phone numbers. That isn't true of mobileme or Apple ID.

They can stick some gyration on top that says "assign this specific device to this Apple ID / Mobileme" account. However, that is configuration and sign up. It is an account set up.

The other issue is adjustments to the contacts/call app. A caller could can have an email addr and phone number. Which one is the facetime suppose to use for lookup? If it is only phone numbers then it knows what entry to pull out of the contact info to invoke a lookup. The other problem is how is this an industry standard. Does everyone have to lookup ID/ip numbers on Apple's directory servers ? That doesn't sound very standard. Phone numbers have routing info built into them. You hand the phone number to the service provider it belongs to and they find the phone. If have a system where everyone has to ask one entity where the devices are you have a huge security and scaling problem.

One of the pragmatic problems with the existing video call standards (they already exist but hooked to telephony delivery) is getting calls to connect across providers. If this only works for a single provider it is a pretty dubious internet standard. The purpose of communication standards should be that they are device and provider independent. If can only make calls to devices of the same vendor that's going back to the 1950's of telephone standards.

You can make it all work by just imitating what IM/Chat services do now. Facetime is just yet another balkanizing IM implementation that loops folks in certain cliques into talking with each other. It is not a "talk to anybody" standard.
 
It won't come with a retina display, without a bigger battery, and it won't have a rear view 5MP camera without also getting a new case; which also enables Apple to introduce a 128GB model.

p.s. The next iPad will also have a front view camera. I think.
 
i was quietly hoping they would make the itouch maybe an inch bigger and call it ipad mini... with a slightly bigger screen it would be an even better gaming machine and still stay ultra portable. :(
 
I think facetime will eventually overtake the term video chatting.... Think about it.... ichat is simply a chatting program that supports video messaging as a feature... Facetime will be a dedicated video chat type of deal that will work over wifi only...
 
I think facetime will eventually overtake the term video chatting.... .. Facetime will be a dedicated video chat type of deal that will work over wifi only...

That's one reason Apple may want a standard for this. So that it can be labeled by the standard name. if "Facetime' becomes the verb for "video chat" their trademark (which have bought) will get diluted.

Facetime isn't "Wifi Only" it is "internet only". It will work across anything that traffics TCP/IP. It is just being banned at present from 3g IP networks because unknown of how much of a bandwidth hog it is.
 
Ridiculus? There were a lot of phones back in '04 that had a camera you could spin around for use with video calling, granted that they had a clamshell form factor but still the idea is not ridiculus

Actually it is! :p I have seen those horrid phones and thought of them when you said that. If you think for one second that Apple would consider anything like that you know nothing about Apple lol. There is far to much mechanics involved, to much room for failure. Moving parts equal eventually broken parts. NOT TO MENTION the esthetics of such a thing and the horrible user experience! Johnny Ive and Steve would vomit at the thought I promise you! No, really, just trust me! ;)
 
For people referencing the "tens of millions of devices" slide, I present to you this idea:
- 1.7 million iPhones sold and it hasn't even been a month yet.
- the wildly anticipated white iPhone isn't out yet, and when it is sales will surge again.
- 10 million in a year is not a ridiculous figure at this rate.
- there are millions of Macs out there that already have iSight integrated cameras in them. I'd be willing to bet that there are even "tens of millions" of them.


That's my guess.

Also: remember all the iPad hype about a possible camera and it turned out to be the ambient light sensor? Yeah. Exactly.
 
"Tens of Millions" refers to more than just 10 million. I think it would be a bad move for Apple to not include some sort of facetime on at least the highest end iPod touch. Seriously what incentive is there to purchase a new iPod touch if it only has an increase in capacity if I currently own a current iPod touch? Sales will increase if they include at least the front facing camera, for this and the next gen iPad if they are serious about facetime. If they keep it only on the iPhone, then facetime will only remain in that part of the apple ecosystem instead of spreading to all facets.
 
Ever noticed the small hole on previous generation iPods?

Hold your 1st 2nd, or 3rd gen iPod touch in bright daylight, and you'll notice a small round 'hole' in the black surround on the top under the glass (in the upper left area). It seems the older design has always been designed to accomodate a camera, but never got one thus far.
So what does this mean for this report? :apple: I guess we'll just have to wait and see....:apple:
 
Hold your 1st 2nd, or 3rd gen iPod touch in bright daylight, and you'll notice a small round 'hole' in the black surround on the top under the glass (in the upper left area). It seems the older design has always been designed to accomodate a camera, but never got one thus far.
So what does this mean for this report? :apple: I guess we'll just have to wait and see....:apple:

Actually, I think you're just pointing out the Ambient Light Sensor that everybody is taking about, because that's all I see when I hold my iPod up in the light.
 
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