What is everyone in such a hurry for? Are you all holding onto production and design projects you can’t get done fast enough on the current lineup? My M1 Pro still blows my mind with performance every time I use it. I swear people just like to see bigger numbers for very little reason.
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Next-Generation MacBook Pro Models With M2 Pro and M2 Max Chips Reportedly 'Delayed Once Again'
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It does make one wonder... How often do these outlets make predictions based on what they think sound like reasonable timelines. They then wait for evidence of their predictions to appear in the pipelines, and when that evidence doesn't rear its head, they report a delay. No doubt it's also possible that they're reporting correctly about internal Apple plans that really were delayed. I wonder how an outlet like this would go about distinguishing those 2 scenarios.
They better be, otherwise I can’t figure why it would be this delayed. If it’s on 5nm it should have been out last fall.
Wi-Fi 6E for those of us in crowded wireless environments, HDMI 2.1 to power 120Hz TVs, UHS-III SD card reader for faster photo transfers.
Those would be great improvements that don’t even involve the Apple Silicon
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My reason for not getting a M1 MBP was, they only support one external monitor. If it's just going to Qdoba and working from someplace that is not home, the built in screen is enough. Sometimes I like to use my laptop for an extra workstation for looking things up when I am at home and working. When I do that, I usually hook up two external screens. Because of this, I was putting off the upgrade and using my Studio Ultra 100% of the time. (I do have a M1 Mini that I use for random tasks and a 64 core 128 thread AMD Ubuntu box I use to test server code.)
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I am the one guy in the world that actually likes the touchbar.
Beyond "shiny and sexy new hawtness", what's the actual feature gap here, though? I'd say this is a feature, not a bug, because you can get a pretty damn good deal on a machine that's still has an incredible amount of utility (don't tell me you bought an M1 at the prices they were released on! please!).
Less frequent updates when there isn't a substantial improvement to be made and it's really just sexier cases, higher straight-line speed numbers, or just more core count that aren't going to be used, is well, better for everyone.
I am very curious what people are thinking they need to do on their laptops that they need way higher clocks, more cores, or even more memory bandwidth for than doesn't exist. I'd say that mid-cycle or even late-cycle updaters are the "winners" here. They're getting machines that are still incredibly useful and modern at amazing prices. Unless just saying/telling others you have the newest is an actual feature/application, I can't really envision a credible one right now.
Hit up the Apple refurb store or a solid used supplier and you will get an even better deal!
Intentionally overly cynical take here to make a point (maybe just a bit): a shiny new video at a big deal keynote with industry bloggers with the biggest "innovation" is a switch to titanium for a case or something is not actually a feature unless you need to burn $2,000 more and don't know how to do it.
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The recent discounting of MacBook Pros is unusual in the scheme of things. Usually these devices stay full price until the new one is release.
Should also remember that your use case isn’t the same as everyone else. Some want more power or faster speeds. I wanted WiFi 6E since I live in a city and the 2.4ghz/5Ghz spectrum are crowded and the ability to hook up to 120hz TVs.
It feels like a lot of the people on this forum that are against more frequent updates just don’t want their machine to be a generation behind.
There are a lot of people who miss the keynote/announce/fancy new marketing video buzz and need a way to burn another $5000 they didn't need to is all I can really think of.
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Just start working on M3 chips. M2 chipsets do not seem to be working for Apple.
I’m also going to blame the stupid Apple AR/VR headset. 🥽
I’m also going to blame the stupid Apple AR/VR headset. 🥽
Everything is on track. 18 month cadence means it's not due until April 2023.
The mini is the last kid at the orphanage once again. They may as well add a full head of red hair to the case design with some buck teeth and freckles.
Hopefully there won’t be much delay. Was expecting it to launch in the next 2 to 3 months.
Pushed so that the focus of the Spring event can be the Apple Reality introduction? Apple can easily sell people a new Mac Pro dev kit to go alongside it as the perfect platform to turbocharge xrOS development.
These notebooks can easily push to WWDC / autumn with how Apple are resting on their Silicon laurels waiting for the rest of the industry to play catch-up.
These notebooks can easily push to WWDC / autumn with how Apple are resting on their Silicon laurels waiting for the rest of the industry to play catch-up.
If it’s indeed delayed again it had better be because it’s going to feature 3nm silicon. There’s really no other excuse.
I’ve got the insider scoop as to why they’re delayed…
It’s because this is the model I’m purchasing coming from a 2016MBP.
If I weren’t looking forward to one, Apple would release them right on schedule.
You’re welcome for this bit of information.
It’s because this is the model I’m purchasing coming from a 2016MBP.
If I weren’t looking forward to one, Apple would release them right on schedule.
You’re welcome for this bit of information.
If they are targeting summer to launch this with M3 based on 3NM for iMac M3 in fall, I think it would make sense to just wait and launch everything on M3.
Me and my 8.5 y/o MacBook Air are nervously laughing...
But forum members assured me that the days of waiting for chip updates were over. How is this possible?
That's why I've asked for what actual, credible use cases exist. More power? Faster speeds? For what? What actual workloads are *actually* CPU, GPU, or even IO memory bound on the current highest end MBPs?
I have a 144Hz panel hung off my MBP M1 Max right now, USB-C and DP cables > HDMI.
WiFi 6E in a crowded area? Pull out a spectrum analyzer, if WiFi 6 isn't working for you because of actual RF issues, I highly doubt the 6GHz band is going to help *at all*, it's probably just as crowded. If WiFi 6 isn't fast enough or you're in a dirty RF area, there are TB3 interfaces and the MBPs already have plenty of bus bandwidth to drive a ton of data through up to 10Gb ethernet adapters.
In terms of actual workloads, there simply aren't many mobile work loads (anything beyond a niche) that an M1 Max 64GB won't handle quite competently. Would 128GB be better? Uh, I guess, sure. Would an even wider memory bus be better? Uh, I guess, sure. But, what, are 4 8k ProRes renders simultaneously not enough? Running more than 16 Postgres containers or something simultaneously (on your laptop?)? Need to continuously retrain a bunch of stable diffusion models or something? Uh, cool?
I'm more than open to the idea that (and it's reality) that my workload isn't what everyone's is, but, really, what am I missing that an update would allow that we don't get now that a simple USB-C and/or DP cable won't get you?
Some "nice to haves"? Sure. I can see that, I guess. But the moaning, complaining, and "Apple is so bad" pitchfork crowd still cannot articulate the actual problem here beyond "I want shiny, sexy new keynote and self-indulgent marketing videos this year!".
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Given that laptop sales figures are plummeting it's no wonder they decided to push M2 Pro/Max releases farther into the future.
They would like to milk their M1 series to the max instead of "rushing" a bit more expensive update into shrinking market and shrinking economy.
Also, perhaps, unless things change there as well, they might be focusing on desktop Macs this spring and rumored 15inch MBA?
Leaving MBP updates for summer WWDC?
They would like to milk their M1 series to the max instead of "rushing" a bit more expensive update into shrinking market and shrinking economy.
Also, perhaps, unless things change there as well, they might be focusing on desktop Macs this spring and rumored 15inch MBA?
Leaving MBP updates for summer WWDC?
I am a professional music video producer and music producer. I purchased M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16-inch because I was skeptical of performance. Now I regret and am waiting to pick up M2 Max.