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Probably no one knows yet but I sure hope they do not phase out the 2012 models as I have such a MacBook Pro.
 

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they will no longer support 32bit apps; that we know for sure. and if, for any reason, your macbook pro wasn't supported, you simply wouldn't upgrade, and all would be well, and life will go on...
I can't afford to upgrade as Macs are really really expensive. But yet the new MacBook Pro does look nice. Just need to get the external DVD player.
 

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From what I see, Apple drops support for some older Macs every other version. If they follow the same pattern, 2012 shall be safe for at least one more year.
 

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I can't afford to upgrade as Macs are really really expensive. But yet the new MacBook Pro does look nice. Just need to get the external DVD player.
even if your macbook didn't support 10.15 (and there's no reason to assume it wouldn't), you don't have to upgrade... you'll have choices when the new OS hits (and we'll probably start seeing it in beta soon)...
 

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even if your macbook didn't support 10.15 (and there's no reason to assume it wouldn't), you don't have to upgrade... you'll have choices when the new OS hits (and we'll probably start seeing it in beta soon)...
I avoid betas.
 

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you won't have a choice if your mac is not supported (outside of getting a newer mac). meanwhile... breathe; there's lots of time before you have to worry about this.
I’d hate to charge a 500GB MBP to my CC. That’s allot of money.
 

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But yet the new MacBook Pro does look nice. Just need to get the external DVD player.
You need to read up a little. The current models of MacBook pros (and MacBooks) ALL have questionable keyboards that could fail and result in a VERY expensive fix (or with AppleCare, a wait for a repair and then a replacement with a similarly faulty keyboard).

https://gizmodo.com/apple-slapped-with-class-action-lawsuit-over-faulty-mac-1825983089
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you won't have a choice if your mac is not supported (outside of getting a newer mac). meanwhile... breathe; there's lots of time before you have to worry about this.
More importantly, there's no reason to believe that 10.15 would have some kind of 'must have', 'game changing' feature or abilities that would make staying with Mojave that big a deal anyway.
 
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You need to read up a little. The current models of MacBook pros (and MacBooks) ALL have questionable keyboards that could fail and result in a VERY expensive fix (or with AppleCare, a wait for a repair and then a replacement with a similarly faulty keyboard).

https://gizmodo.com/apple-slapped-with-class-action-lawsuit-over-faulty-mac-1825983089
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More importantly, there's no reason to believe that 10.15 would have some kind of 'must have', 'game changing' feature or abilities that would make staying with Mojave that big a deal anyway.
lots of people own current macbooks/macbook pros and are doing just fine. and (unless something miraculous happens), 10.15 will just be the next step in OS upgrades; some under-the-hood improvements, and a bit of eye candy. this is how it's worked since os x, and we can upgrade... or not. simple.
 

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You need to read up a little. The current models of MacBook pros (and MacBooks) ALL have questionable keyboards that could fail and result in a VERY expensive fix (or with AppleCare, a wait for a repair and then a replacement with a similarly faulty keyboard).

https://gizmodo.com/apple-slapped-with-class-action-lawsuit-over-faulty-mac-1825983089
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More importantly, there's no reason to believe that 10.15 would have some kind of 'must have', 'game changing' feature or abilities that would make staying with Mojave that big a deal anyway.
If what you say is true it would be better to stick with my 2012 model which has no issues with the keyboard ( so far in more than 3 years of everyday usage).
 

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If what you say is true it would be better to stick with my 2012 model which has no issues with the keyboard ( so far in more than 3 years of everyday usage).
Yea i wouldnt touch the current generation macbooks/macbook pros with a 10 foot cattle prod.
 
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Probably no one knows yet but I sure hope they do not phase out the 2012 models as I have such a MacBook Pro.
My guess is that 2012 Macs will not be supported by 10.15 but that's just a guess since the 2011 Mac Mini and MBP models were dropped this last year with the release of 10.14. The Mac 2014 models will have been sold for five years... Somewhere I read that Apple fully supported a model for at least five years since the last year it was offered as a new current model which would make 2018 the last year for 2012 Macs... unless early year 2014 sales of Mac 2012 models are included to make 2019 the last year. This may be a state of CA requirement. It's ok for me since I prefer to retain 32bit MacOS support with 10.14.x on my 2012 Macs.
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Yea i wouldnt touch the current generation macbooks/macbook pros with a 10 foot cattle prod.
Moo Mac. ;)
 
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If what you say is true it would be better to stick with my 2012 model which has no issues with the keyboard ( so far in more than 3 years of everyday usage).
Keep your 2012 MBP backed up. The main things that can go wrong with the 2012 MBP is that the battery can go bad and/or the original spinner hard drive can fail. Both original parts can last seven years or longer. If they ever do go bad they can easily be replaced with new replacements. If you don't want to do it a Mac repair place can easily do it and the replacement parts are relatively inexpensive.

The hardest part with the hard drive would be restoring your backed up MacOS and data. Just keep your back ups that are on a separate 1TB or larger external backup drive somewhat current. Many users back up their Macs on multiple external drives and often use different backup software besides just Time Machine for redundancy.

Assuming Mojave is the last MacOS update for the 2012 model... Apple will support MacOS 10.14.x with security updates for two more years after 10.15 is released. New third party software apps will probably support Mojave for three to five years or longer. Therefore your 2012 MBP still has many years of life left.
 
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Keep your 2012 MBP backed up. The main things that can go wrong with the 2012 MBP is that the battery can go bad and/or the original spinner hard drive can fail. Both original parts can last seven years or longer. If they ever do go bad they can easily be replaced with new replacements. If you don't want to do it a Mac repair place can easily do it and the replacement parts are relatively inexpensive.

The hardest part with the hard drive would be restoring your backed up MacOS and data. Just keep your back ups that are on a separate 1TB or larger backup drive somewhat current. Many users back up their Macs on multiple drives and often using different backup software besides just Time Machine for redundancy.

Assuming Mojave is the last MacOS update for the 2012 model... Apple will support MacOS 10.14.x with security updates for two more years after 10.15 is released. New third party software apps will probably support Mojave for three to five years or longer. Therefore your 2012 MBP still has many years of life left.
Oh I have it backed up alright. Hopefully the HDD will last a while. I have Tech Tools Pro for diagnostic on it.
 
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Many 2012 model Macs are already on the Apple vintage list. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624

I suspect that most 2012 models (maybe yours also) will not be eligible to upgrade to macOS 10.15.X. But like others have stated, you can stick with Mojave if that's the case. Mojave can still run 32 bit apps which might be a good thing if you have older 32 bit apps such as Microsoft Office 2011.
 

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Many 2012 model Macs are already on the Apple vintage list. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624

I suspect that most 2012 models (maybe yours also) will not be eligible to upgrade to macOS 10.15.X. But like others have stated, you can stick with Mojave if that's the case. Mojave can still run 32 bit apps which might be a good thing if you have older 32 bit apps such as Microsoft Office 2011.
I have Office 2016 which is 64-bit. My mom still runs Office 2008 and I will tell her not to upgrade. However she has a brand new MacBook Air. But thinking about it I have some game emulators that are 32-bit so I probably won't upgrade past Mojave considering that these emulators have not been upgraded.
 

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The 2012 13" was sold new until October 2016, so it's got quite a while to go before it goes out of support.
I bought it in mid 2015. At that time SSD's were not yet 500GB's and most were 128GB. I also wanted the built in DVD drive which I still use on occasion.
 

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The 2012 13" was sold new until October 2016, so it's got quite a while to go before it goes out of support.
I know that which is why I mentioned to the OP that (maybe yours also) will be declared vintage. I don't know if it has quite a while to go. Apple can be unpredictable - even though that model was sold up until 2016, it's still a 2012.