Next Year's Dual-Camera iPhones Will Have Dual Optical Image Stabilization

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While the iPhone 7 Plus has a dual-lens camera, only the wide-angle lens supports optical image stabilization. However, that could change next year.


In a research note obtained by MacRumors, KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo maintains his belief new dual-camera iPhone models in 2017 will support dual optical image stabilization. Kuo believes Apple will redesign the telephoto lens to support the feature in addition to existing auto focus functionality.
We believe Apple will add OIS function to the telephoto CCM in order to enhance the selling points of next year's new iPhone. We think photo quality and optical zoom range may both improve as a result. We expect the telephoto lens will be redesigned to support OIS in the telephoto CCM, with challenges likely coming from: (1) the need to increase the image circle of the telephoto lens, which will lead to longer calibration time and a more complex assembly processes; and (2) a redesign of the telephoto lens, as an increased image circle will result in degraded photo quality around the corners.
Kuo said Apple's rumored 5.1"-5.2" OLED iPhone and a new 5.5-inch iPhone with a traditional LCD display will feature dual cameras with dual optical image stabilization, while a new 4.7-inch model with an LCD display is expected to retain a single-lens camera, also with optical image stabilization.

Kuo expects Apple supplier Largan Precision to remain the exclusive provider of 6P and telephoto lens for the trio of new iPhones.

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BeyondtheTech

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The people who own the DJI Osmo Mobile are having serious issues with the iPhone 7/Plus due to both of the devices trying to perform their own image stabilization, and neither have the ability to turn them off. They are resorting to using the non-OIS lens on the 7 Plus as a pseudo-workaround. If nothing is rectified, that workaround will disappear with the next iPhone come next year.

 

4ubrey

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Are the products just so bad this year that even days after we just got new phones we're already talking about how great the next one will be?

I know Apple products are not about being content with what you have, but the cycle this year seems so anxious to move on.
 

Nr123*123

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Oh my gaaawwdd.

This is a feature they could've easily put in the current model. For £700, you'd think they wouldn't skimp on features, but you must not know the new Apple.
 
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lunarworks

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Oh my gaaawwdd.

This is a feature they could've easily put in the current model. For £700, you'd think they wouldn't skimp on features, but you must not know the new Apple.
The new Apple?

One could say they've been doing it since the very first Mac.

They always deliver a quality product with something missing to add to the next version.
 

decimortis

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Are the products just so bad this year that even days after we just got new phones we're already talking about how great the next one will be?
I know Apple products are not about being content with what you have, but the cycle this year seems so anxious to move on.
I don't think that's really the general consensus, but it might appear like that here only because this site is all about rumors.
It's always looking to the future.
 

doelcm82

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The cynic in me believes they could've done this for the 7+ already, but they have to hold back enticing new features for the next iteration.
The optimist in me tells the cynic to shut up because I'm buying it any way.
The realist in me thinks that these things initially aren't so much designed as cobbled together. As it was, the portrait function of the dual camera wasn't even ready in time for the launch of the iPhone 7 Plus.

Where Apple doesn't have a set deadline and takes a little more time to work on a feature (such as the TouchBar), the villagers start lighting torches and reaching for their pitchforks. In fact, there are those who question the value of spending any time or effort on dual cameras, so who can blame Apple for starting with a proof of concept?
 
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err404

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While I love the idea of the second camera, the quality is fairly low on the zoom lens. Between the slower lens, small sensor and lack of OIS there are few cases where I have enough light to get a great shot. I basically need to be outdoors at noon on a bright sunny day (only a slight exaggeration).
That said, I feel Apple would be better off scraping OIS and going the Pixel route. Use the space from the OIS frame to house a larger sensor. Even without the software tricks Google uses, a larger sensor would buy you the same 1 stop improvement that OIS provides.
 
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Avieshek

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So, just a OIS to telephoto lens and let Jony Ive iterate how hard the process was that they did a journey?
 

menithings

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I also hope the new telephoto lens has a wider aperture as well. It's extremely frustrating that 2x mode doesn't use the telephoto lens in most indoor and all low light situations. Worst still is not being warned that your image is just being cropped.
 

Relentless Power

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Are the products just so bad this year that even days after we just got new phones we're already talking about how great the next one will be?

I know Apple products are not about being content with what you have, but the cycle this year seems so anxious to move on.
Define what's "Bad" for a product? More specifically the iPhone. That's how technology evolves. The iPhone is released on a annual basis, which by the time I received my iPhone 7 Plus, iPhone 8 rumors were already flourishing. These "Products" are not generated overnight, there years of research and development. Even the "iPhone 9" is already into the implementation phase.

The refresh cycle offers something newer and hopefully more innovative to the mass appeal, otherwise someone opposite of yourself would say "The iPhone sure is stagnant or has piqued."

Technology never stops and every year it offers something for more convenience and simplicity for the user. At least that's part of the Goal.
 

Mr. Dee

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I am so glad I skipped the iPhone 7 this year. I know I will have more money to spend on the high end OLED 5.8 model with 128 GBs of storage then feel regret.
 

agsystems

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Are the products just so bad this year that even days after we just got new phones we're already talking about how great the next one will be?

I know Apple products are not about being content with what you have, but the cycle this year seems so anxious to move on.
I get what you are saying but there is a crowd that believes that the phone is only new IF the case/shell is different so these folks will complain until they get the 'new' phone.
 

formerpc

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Well, duh. I'd hope so. Ugh. I'm getting frustrated with Apple's predictability and apparent lack of drive to truly innovate. This sort of thing shouldn't be a hallmark feature that makes the phone better, this should be an expected feature that is just a footnote mention. Maybe they are and we just don't know it, but Apple needs to shift their focus, imo.
 

agsystems

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The cynic in me believes they could've done this for the 7+ already, but they have to hold back enticing new features for the next iteration.
The optimist in me tells the cynic to shut up because I'm buying it any way.
well this year the plus went up by $ 20 - so for next year that module would cost less and it would make more financial sense to place it on both cameras - Apple treats their iPhone margins as sacred
 

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The people who own the DJI Osmo Mobile are having serious issues with the iPhone 7/Plus due to both of the devices trying to perform their own image stabilization, and neither have the ability to turn them off. They are resorting to using the non-OIS lens on the 7 Plus as a pseudo-workaround. If nothing is rectified, that workaround will disappear with the next iPhone come next year.

With Filmic Pro app you can disable OIS and is fully compatible with Osmo Mobile.
 

szw-mapple fan

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Are the products just so bad this year that even days after we just got new phones we're already talking about how great the next one will be?

I know Apple products are not about being content with what you have, but the cycle this year seems so anxious to move on.

Apple has a disappointment year once every 4 years or so so that they can push everything that will get bad publicity out all in one go. Remember 2012 with the moaning about MagSafe2, lightning connector, lack of DVD drive, no retina on iPad mini, slow iPad 3, thick and heavy iPad 4, lack of ports on the rMBP, and all that goodness?
 
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