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Phones Nexus 4 owners/discussion thread.

You don't need to install custom ROM's or anything, good reason to root, and still run stock, is for AdAway app, to prevent ad's, that can drain battery, and DroidWall a firewall program, and install some basic themes that require root.

A Nexus phone is designed to be rooted in my opinion, I mean, it is the "developer phone" after all :)

I am no tech God by any stretch of the means, just know basic easy stuff. Rooting at first was scary and difficult to me, but this guys website was a godsend, he has a site for every Android phone, and explains in easy to understand steps, 1...2...3...etc. how to root your phone. Even includes pictures and a video of the exact steps to go through. Without this site I wouldn't even try to root my Note 2, but with his page and video, it literally took me all of five minutes, if that, and worked on the first try.

Nexus 4 root;
http://nexus4root.com/nexus-4-root/how-to-root-nexus-4-windowsmac-osxlinuxubuntu/

I am not a programmer at all, I know nothing about code. But I just followed his steps, one by one, exactly what he typed, and it works, and he makes it so easy for us noobs to understand.
 
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So the update was no god send ? My replacement screen was supposed to be delivery yesterday but seems to be stuck in texas for some reason, was looking forward to a better battery life :( either way i used to get about the same life i get on my 4s.
 
Tig Bitties said:
You don't need to install custom ROM's or anything, good reason to root, and still run stock, is for AdAway app, to prevent ad's, that can drain battery, and DroidWall a firewall program, and install some basic themes that require root.

A Nexus phone is designed to be rooted in my opinion, I mean, it is the "developer phone" after all :)

I am no tech God by any stretch of the means, just know basic easy stuff. Rooting at first was scary and difficult to me, but this guys website was a godsend, he has a site for every Android phone, and explains in easy to understand steps, 1...2...3...etc. how to root your phone. Even includes pictures and a video of the exact steps to go through. Without this site I wouldn't even try to root my Note 2, but with his page and video, it literally took me all of five minutes, if that, and worked on the first try.

Nexus 4 root;
http://nexus4root.com/nexus-4-root/how-to-root-nexus-4-windowsmac-osxlinuxubuntu/

I am not a programmer at all, I know nothing about code. But I just followed his steps, one by one, exactly what he typed, and it works, and he makes it so easy for us noobs to understand.
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Honestly, I'm just too lazy.
 
roxxette said:
So the update was no god send ? My replacement screen was supposed to be delivery yesterday but seems to be stuck in texas for some reason, was looking forward to a better battery life :( either way i used to get about the same life i get on my 4s.
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We'll have to wait to see exactly how much of a difference there will be, but my initial impression is pretty good. There is seems to a decent increase in battery life for what I've used it as so far: a wifi hotspot. How much improvement might be show up in more normal use that involves a lot of screen time remains to be seen -- it would almost certainly have to be be less dramatic ... plus the N4 doesn't seem to be working as well as a hotspot.

I've also noticed some of the _huge_ delays have disappeared from Tapatalk -- screen changes come up quite quick now. Scrolling still isn't iOS smooth, but it's at least OK.

I haven't done much else with it yet. We'll need to see what others report.
 
Tig Bitties said:
The Note II is the better phone. Insanely great battery life, and I actually like the AMOLED screen better, with the deep blacks, and vibrant colors, I know most hate Samsung displays, but the Note II's screen is really nice. And the new CM10.1 ROM's running 4.2.2 are blazing fast on this phone.

I feel the Nexus 4 was a let down for a new Nexus device. Yes for the price it's the best deal in town, but outside of the great price, the phone to me is just meh.

The display on the Nexus 4 is just average, for 2012 it's the third best screen, the HTC DNA being #1, the HTC One X being #2, then a toss up between the Nexus 4 and iPhone 5 display, and Note II.

Battery life is just terrible for a phone with a 2100mh battery. Oh well, here's hoping the Nexus-Five won't be another LG device, time to give Sony a shot, or back to HTC.
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I think most like it. Those that have iPhones usually dont like it because the whites arent as bright but that never bothered me. I only have mine turned up slightly more than halfway on brightness.

I like my GS3 AMOLED screen but it isnt great in sunlight.
 
Vegastouch said:
I think most like it. Those that have iPhones usually dont like it because the whites arent as bright but that never bothered me. I only have mine turned up slightly more than halfway on brightness.

I like my GS3 AMOLED screen but it isnt great in sunlight.
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Absolutely. Everyone who has seen my Note 2 has loved the screen. Naturally, I love it. I even like the S3's display.

It's only here where people act like AMOLED is terrible. Until Apple does it. Then it will be the best thing ever.

I do agree about sunlight. But I realized I am in more situations where I benefit more from the true blacks than I do from a brighter screen in bright sun. I'm sure if I worked outside I would feel differently. That said I am running CleanROM ACE on my Note 2 (it is basically like a stock international ROM, with a few tweaks). With this ROM auto-brightness is adjustable. I find setting it to about 40% works well, and will let it crank the display up to 100% outdoors if needed (my stock ROM didn't seem to go that high so I had to switch to manual brightness to crank it up). Af full brightness the display is not too bad outdoors.

Speaking of auto-brightness... Good lord I hated that on my Nexus 4. It was just too dim for my tastes. And it never seemed to crank it up high enough outdoors. I don't like having to manually crank it up because I often forget to lower it. (Though toggles are nice for that.)




Michael
 
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Nexus 4 owners...

Does your signal bar in the top status bar always show the down/up arrows? Or are there times where it's just the H and the signal bars?

I don't know if it's my imagination or not, but anytime I don't see the down/up arrows, I feel like I'm not really getting data, even if the bars appear full and the H is there. Messages send slower, my browser lags, then finally, after a few seconds, the arrows appear and the message goes through or the webpage finally loads.

Anyone else noticing this, too?
 
I'm having zero issues with data on my n4.

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Constantly quick, no drop outs, no lag.

Now, I have recently come from a custom rom back to a fresh start so perhaps a wipe and factory reset will help? Bit of a PITA though possibly.
 
ChazUK said:
I'm having zero issues with data on my n4.

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Constantly quick, no drop outs, no lag.

Now, I have recently come from a custom rom back to a fresh start so perhaps a wipe and factory reset will help? Bit of a PITA though possibly.
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Do you always see the up-down arrows inside your signal bars at the top right in your status bar?
 
onthecouchagain said:
Do you always see the up-down arrows inside your signal bars at the top right in your status bar?
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I'm uploading a ton of crap on my home WiFi so I turned the WiFi off on my N4. Right now I can see the signal bars with an 'H' above it. Only occasionally I'll see the up/down arrows appear inside of the signal bars. They are not always there though.

If you're concerned about your data speed, you can always download the Speedtest app and test it. I'm not getting H+ in my area, so the best I've ever received for a data score was 10Mbps down, 1Mbps up. And that's on a good day, sometimes it's 6 down 1 up.
 
onthecouchagain said:
Honestly, I'm just too lazy.
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Same. If it were an easy process like Jailbreaking my iPhone, I would do it. I was going to try and start to do that so I could manually update my N4 yesterday and I downloaded one of the apps needed to start this. I had no idea what the instructions were talking about on editing a file to get this app started, something about a bash file or something like that? Huh? Too technical for me, a person who just uses a Mac to surf and sync iPhones and iPods to and buy movies and TV shows in iTunes.

I JB my iPhone because it's easy.
 
NewAnger said:
Same. If it were an easy process like Jailbreaking my iPhone, I would do it. I was going to try and start to do that so I could manually update my N4 yesterday and I downloaded one of the apps needed to start this. I had no idea what the instructions were talking about on editing a file to get this app started, something about a bash file or something like that? Huh? Too technical for me, a person who just uses a Mac to surf and sync iPhones and iPods to and buy movies and TV shows in iTunes.

I JB my iPhone because it's easy.
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Haha. I love my iPads and my MacBook but I just find this post to be hilarious.

Even the Jailbreaking process "just works", right? lol

The reason why is because:
Everyone and their grandmother (literally grandmothers) owns an iPhone. There's ONE device per generation from Apple versus Android where there's literally HUNDREDS of different devices and even 4-5 flagships every year. The best Apple phone is the iPhone 5. The best Android phone is.... The Nexus 4 or the Galaxy Note 2 or the Galaxy S3 or the HTC DNA or the Droid Razr Maxx HD or even the One X+ lol. And that's just flagships. You also have flagships from last year, second tier high end devices, etc etc.

Due to the nature of it, a rooting process is usually given to owners in the most basic elementary form so that it gets released faster. If every developer had to band together like MuscleNerd and Pod2g and release some "one stop program" that does the whole process for you, only one or two Android devices would get rooted every year.

Instead it's like, here's the exploit, follow this generic guide and install it yourself.

I like it that way. Makes me feel like I know a LOT more about what's actually happening to my phone. Instead of just TRUSTING some developer that has a lot of feedback/followers on Twitter and not knowing exactly what's going on with these "payloads" that are happening to my $500-700 device.
 
Took my phone off the charger at 5PM to head to work. It's been 10 hours and my battery is at 72%. I've been using it for Twitter and Facebook for the past 2.5 hrs. Now this reminds me of the impressive usage I get from my 4S.

I won't be afraid to use my Nexus now.

Signed: NOT regretting my purchase! :D
 
NewAnger said:
Same. If it were an easy process like Jailbreaking my iPhone, I would do it. I was going to try and start to do that so I could manually update my N4 yesterday and I downloaded one of the apps needed to start this. I had no idea what the instructions were talking about on editing a file to get this app started, something about a bash file or something like that? Huh? Too technical for me, a person who just uses a Mac to surf and sync iPhones and iPods to and buy movies and TV shows in iTunes.

I JB my iPhone because it's easy.
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Honestly, you were probably following the wrong instructions.

And if you don't want to get in there with Terminal just use a Toolkit that is available. Then it is no different to running RedSn0w.

And don't forget, the early jailbreak methods were required using Terminal and running what could've appeared to be complicated commands. Its simply been made easier so that you mum can jailbreak her own iPhone.
 
Using CPU spy app my nexus is still not going into deep sleep. It's only showing deep sleep at 72%. How do I find out if its a rogue app and which app it is? I really don't have that many apps so I can't imagine it being anything serious and suspect it still has to do with jelly bean itself.

4.2.2 is so far a disappointment. I'm not seeing any major battery improvements.
 
And why is there still no official change log that details the battery fixes? What is up with google lately and their lack of effective communication...
 
onthecouchagain said:
Using CPU spy app my nexus is still not going into deep sleep. It's only showing deep sleep at 72%. How do I find out if its a rogue app and which app it is? I really don't have that many apps so I can't imagine it being anything serious and suspect it still has to do with jelly bean itself.

4.2.2 is so far a disappointment. I'm not seeing any major battery improvements.
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Same
 
onthecouchagain said:
Using CPU spy app my nexus is still not going into deep sleep. It's only showing deep sleep at 72%. How do I find out if its a rogue app and which app it is? I really don't have that many apps so I can't imagine it being anything serious and suspect it still has to do with jelly bean itself.

4.2.2 is so far a disappointment. I'm not seeing any major battery improvements.
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Is there anything out of the ordinary on your battery stat setting page. It's usually pretty accurate at relaying what's using the battery.
 
cynics said:
Is there anything out of the ordinary on your battery stat setting page. It's usually pretty accurate at relaying what's using the battery.
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Screen, android os, media server, phone idle, cell standby, android system were the main players. Then small percentage stuff like chrome, flipboard, whatsapp, music (the default google one), gmail, and a few other common apps.

Really nothing too telling.
 
Is there a good source of objective testing on these sorts of matters for Android? The way to really tell about the extent of any change in battery life would be to have two identical devices other than the OS version, and run them through the same controlled tests. There must be someone who will do this and publish it.
 
onthecouchagain said:
Using CPU spy app my nexus is still not going into deep sleep. It's only showing deep sleep at 72%. How do I find out if its a rogue app and which app it is? I really don't have that many apps so I can't imagine it being anything serious and suspect it still has to do with jelly bean itself.

4.2.2 is so far a disappointment. I'm not seeing any major battery improvements.
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Install BetterBatteryStats, it is a great app to find out what is causing wakelocks.

Here from XDA forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15869868
 
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Hmmm kernel in partial wakelocks?
Read the XDA thread, this app is a big deal, helped out a lot of people.
I don't know the app you mentioned, but with bbs you can see partial wakelocks.
 
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