Continually surprising me is that cellular iPads have all the hardware to make voice calls, but won't.
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NFC-Equipped iPad Air 2 Sparks Speculation of Future Apple Pay Registers for Small Businesses [Updated]
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Continually surprising me is that cellular iPads have all the hardware to make voice calls, but won't.
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Smooth?
You guys crack me up. "a few hiccups in an otherwise smooth release". You think people getting duplicate charges is a "hiccup"? Wonder how you'd feel if one of those hiccups was a $5000 item and the duplicate brought you over your credit limit and screwed your card.
Right...smooth with just "a few hiccups".
You guys crack me up. "a few hiccups in an otherwise smooth release". You think people getting duplicate charges is a "hiccup"? Wonder how you'd feel if one of those hiccups was a $5000 item and the duplicate brought you over your credit limit and screwed your card.
Right...smooth with just "a few hiccups".
Not so much at the terminal end as at the bank end. I called two of my local banks to ask if they support Apple Pay on their debit cards. One said, "No, but we're looking into it." The other said, "No, and we have no interest."
I'd rather use my debit card than my credit card, and Apple Pay would be much more secure. But if the local banks don't get on board, that will seriously limit its adoption.
The secure element, which is where the encrypted payment data is stored for Apple Pay, is part of the NFC chip. Without an antenna the chip can't be used for NFC payments.
I had wondered when they said Apple Pay was going to be on the iPad Air if that meant they were including an NFC chip or if they were using some other specialized "secure element-only" chip. It seems we have our answer.
I had wondered when they said Apple Pay was going to be on the iPad Air if that meant they were including an NFC chip or if they were using some other specialized "secure element-only" chip. It seems we have our answer.
That was on the payment processor's end, and has been caught & fixed. Chase explicitly said it wasn't anything on apple's end that caused the issue. I have been double charged before when using a regular magnetic card. It's a tiny bit of hassle, but usually easily rectified.
In the north east of England, Nexus (they used the name since 1996 so not a Google reference) give their ticket inspectors NFC enabled Android phones in order to check passengers smartcard tickets.
Obviously as NFC in the iPhone is currently limited to Apple Pay it means they can't use iPhones for the same purpose, but in future perhaps it will be possible.
Anyway, there's nothing to stop an iPad with NFC capabilities being used both to accept Apple pay, contactless credit cards, Google Wallet and any other NFC cards the retailer accepts if Apple wants to allow that functionality.
Basically any NFC enabled card could then be accepted without any additional hardware and in some countries that would be sufficient for most customers. Areas where NFC penetration is low could add a chip and PIN or swipe reader in addition to this.
Obviously as NFC in the iPhone is currently limited to Apple Pay it means they can't use iPhones for the same purpose, but in future perhaps it will be possible.
Anyway, there's nothing to stop an iPad with NFC capabilities being used both to accept Apple pay, contactless credit cards, Google Wallet and any other NFC cards the retailer accepts if Apple wants to allow that functionality.
Basically any NFC enabled card could then be accepted without any additional hardware and in some countries that would be sufficient for most customers. Areas where NFC penetration is low could add a chip and PIN or swipe reader in addition to this.
I think you are confused. This will help Square add Apple Pay to all its retailers. This is huge. The vendors would be required to replace there old iPad, with this new one and bam...now they accept Apple Pay in addition to swipes.
I disagree. I have previously speculated that NFC-equipped iPads could enable device-to-device Apple Pay transactions.
In doing so, they could cut out Square and other third party payment systems entirely. This would be huge for small businesses (food trucks, farmers markets, etc).
For that matter, I don't really know why they don't bring everything up to par w/ iPhone- put in vibrator motor, use the current gen camera instead of last gen (focus pixels?), go ahead and put NFC antenna in so it *could* be used like this in the future (and for in store Apple pay now)
Elaborate on what? I worked at Best Buy - that POS system was so archaic and heavy.
Why do you think it's taken so long for the US to FINALLY switch over to new forms of payment (specifically chip-and-pin)? Our retailers are so large and take so long to adopt new technologies it leaves us behind other countries.
Glad things are finally accelerating.
With the move towards VoLTE, the distinction between voice and data has blurred to the point that now the networks have to do extra work to special-case the billing of voice calls.
My childrens' children will never be issued a phone number.
According to this article the Mini 3 has the NFC chip.
http://9to5mac.com/2014/10/24/teard...c-MacAllDay+(9+to+5+Mac+-+Apple+Intelligence)
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i have been in few small businesses with iPads as cash registers....i am always checking it out.
I seem to want to go back to these stores...as they get it
I seem to want to go back to these stores...as they get it
This is also how I interpreted the NFC functionality in the iPad would be utilised. Could be a huge change: basically making a signature and/or chip and pin redundant.
how long til we can do phone to phone transactions? i.e.- loan my brother a couple hundred.. give some shopping money to my girl.. etc
seems like this ability will have to happen if the goal is true wallet replacement.
(sux that the banks/apple will be getting a cut of even more money movements but i guess they already get a nice chunk via atm fees.)
seems like this ability will have to happen if the goal is true wallet replacement.
(sux that the banks/apple will be getting a cut of even more money movements but i guess they already get a nice chunk via atm fees.)
It won't disrupt Square's cash register or card reader business, so long as people are still using cash or cards. So for a time they'll be able to coexist with Apple Pay. But yeah, I can imagine that over the next five years, as current payment cards expire, banks and merchants will be pushing people over to use NFC instead of cards, so Square will fade into obscurity around 2020.
That's to protect people from themselves. From looking like an idiot making phone calls with a 10" tablet
But yes, it would have been nice if it did support voice calls through Bluetooth though