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NFL 'Game Pass' With On-Demand Game Broadcasts Coming to Apple TV

I love baseball and football. I subscribe to mlb at bat because I can not only watch games with the hometown commentators (I live out of market) when I'm at home, I can listen to the hometown radio broadcast in the car.

I love baseball, but if it were not live, I would not subscribe.

Unless NFL does the same thing as MLB, I wouldn't dream of subscribing.
 
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RickInHouston said:
Why blame Direct TV? They were the highest bidder. Blame the one selling the service and making it exclusive.
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Why blame either party? DirecTV made an offer it thought was in its best interests and NFL accepted believing it was in its best interests. Sure it pisses fans off, but we are a captive audience right now. Somewhere DTV made a calculation that it could recoup the 1.5b/year through new DTV subscribers (2 year contract) + existing subscribers at $250-350 (MSRP). NFL figured it could not make as much $ as easily as this deal. That's the market at work.
 
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Here in Europe, Game Pass is live, every game, all season long. I don't get why they don't match it in the US...
 
When i can pay $3 a game for the games i want to see and not the 225 i don't,
then they will have something!
 
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Chupa Chupa said:
Wooo. LIVE preseason games. Oh boy!! /sarc.

Other than coaches and players who wants to see a game after its played? The highlights are all over TV by then.

Not really sure who in the U.S. would buy into this service. ATT/DirecTV have the Sunday day game streaming locked up. so "live" regular season isn't happening w/o its permission.
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I would buy it. I live in California and am a Titans fan. I don't have regular TV, just streaming services (Netflix, Hulu, HBO). Up to this point the only way I can see a live game is to pick up one of the European or Australian streams, and the quality just isn't there.

And a game isn't just highlights, otherwise why even watch the games just catch Sportscenter on Sunday nights.
 
expectdelay said:
If it's not live then who cares? Sports don't age very well ...
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My thoughts exactly. I'll record and watch a game provided I'm only an hour or so behind, but it's pointless to watch after it's over. You basically have to stay off the internet until you watch it. This service is pretty much pointless. Like those old Verizon or ESPN services that sent highlights and recaps... right to your phone! Thanks, I have the internet.
 
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Countdown to people complaining about what the service is offering(not Apple's decision) or the fact that it isn't free in 3....2.....1.....
 
Paradoxally said:
Here in Europe, Game Pass is live, every game, all season long. I don't get why they don't match it in the US...
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The television networks don't want it, and they pay huge amounts of money to the NFL (not to mention Direct TV who pays 1.4 Billion a year for the exclusive rights in the U.S. for live game full access rights.) If European networks were paying gobs of money and didn't want it to be available in a different formats it wouldn't be either (admittedly I'm not familiar with each countries laws) and the NFL clearly prefers the exclusive money in hand model over the non-exclusive, we'll take our chances making more with non-exclusive rights + subscriptions model.
 
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The NFL needs to get off their high horse and start offering real broadband experiences... NBA and others have been offering this for YEARS!
 
To echo just about everyone else: Not live, don't care.

As someone who is a cord-cutter and has no problem streaming over my 100Mbps line, it really irritates me that I have to watch NFL games over the air. The house I bought came with a giant antenna in the attic (and it's fairly new which is weird). It's like 15 ft long, and yet this thing can't pick up CBS which hosts the majority of Chiefs games, and FOX can be really tricky. That's what happens when you have a few big hills between you and the station and your house is in a small valley. Drives me crazy.

Two years ago I bought the $99 Madden/Sunday Ticket combo deal. After buying it I was really disappointed that Columbia, MO is considered blackout for KC. Then what's the point of the app? Do people really care that much about teams that aren't their home team? I guess people who move, but still, they would be in the minority. I just don't have time to watch that many games. I'd gladly pay $99/season just for Chiefs content. I was able to get around it sometimes by starting the game on LTE and then switching to WiFi. I think with LTE it thought I was in the St. Louis market since we're pretty much dead center between the two. It was still really annoying and if the stream dropped I'd have to mess with it a bunch to get it going again. At some point towards the end of the season it just seemed to not work at all.

Last season I just skipped watching NFL football for the first time since 3rd grade. I watched some Mizzou games and got some press passes to go down on the field and shoot some photos for a couple games. It's just too much of a hassle to stream. That and I was still pissed about the most epic post season collapse in NFL history against the Colts from the season before (is it too much to ask for one playoff win since I was a kid?). Anyway, sometimes I would have to try to find a pirate stream online and the quality was always terrible and it would often glitch out or have ads popover like crazy if I would AirPlay from my Mac to the Apple TV. Ironically I was able to watch the Royals in the postseason just fine on my iPad. So the one year I don't watch the Chiefs the Royals were tearing it up. Hah. I want to watch NFL games again this year but I have no idea what to do. Guess I'll just have to hope the Royals keep it going so I can be entertained…even though football is way better.
 
NFL = Not For Long.
NFL = Not For Live (games).

I was a Redskins and Steelers lifelong fan. And even had season tickets. The current owner in DC killed it for me and I dont follow that team anymore (that will be renamed soon). And although I still think the steelers are the best ever, the game is not the same and I just dont follow as much. Now I prefer the real football (which is correctly spelled futbol).
 
bbeagle said:
Fantasy Sports are a HUGE market.

Each NFL game can be reduced to 30 minutes. Say you watched 2 games that week live, you can watch every other game for the week in just 7 hours. This is a huge market for people who want to rule their fantasy leagues by watching every player in every play and not just read numbers in the paper.
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Your entire quote is an anachronism regarding Fantasy Sports. Fantasy happens real time. The actual game/team doesn't even matter. You can literally rule fantasy without ever watching a single game. "... just read numbers in the paper." What's this paper you speak of?

On topic: This service is just a baby step, but it's a step nonetheless.
 
69Mustang said:
Your entire quote is an anachronism regarding Fantasy Sports. Fantasy happens real time. The actual game/team doesn't even matter. You can literally rule fantasy without ever watching a single game. "... just read numbers in the paper." What's this paper you speak of?

On topic: This service is just a baby step, but it's a step nonetheless.
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There is too much information through websites and commentary to gain any advantage on just pure numbers these days. For those looking for an edge is competitive leagues, sometimes you have to actually see what a player does beyond a few highlights.
 
macduke said:
To echo just about everyone else: Not live, don't care.

As someone who is a cord-cutter and has no problem streaming over my 100Mbps line, it really irritates me that I have to watch NFL games over the air. The house I bought came with a giant antenna in the attic (and it's fairly new which is weird). It's like 15 ft long, and yet this thing can't pick up CBS which hosts the majority of Chiefs games, and FOX can be really tricky. That's what happens when you have a few big hills between you and the station and your house is in a small valley. Drives me crazy.

Two years ago I bought the $99 Madden/Sunday Ticket combo deal. After buying it I was really disappointed that Columbia, MO is considered blackout for KC. Then what's the point of the app? Do people really care that much about teams that aren't their home team? I guess people who move, but still, they would be in the minority. I just don't have time to watch that many games. I'd gladly pay $99/season just for Chiefs content. I was able to get around it sometimes by starting the game on LTE and then switching to WiFi. I think with LTE it thought I was in the St. Louis market since we're pretty much dead center between the two. It was still really annoying and if the stream dropped I'd have to mess with it a bunch to get it going again. At some point towards the end of the season it just seemed to not work at all.

Last season I just skipped watching NFL football for the first time since 3rd grade. I watched some Mizzou games and got some press passes to go down on the field and shoot some photos for a couple games. It's just too much of a hassle to stream. That and I was still pissed about the most epic post season collapse in NFL history against the Colts from the season before (is it too much to ask for one playoff win since I was a kid?). Anyway, sometimes I would have to try to find a pirate stream online and the quality was always terrible and it would often glitch out or have ads popover like crazy if I would AirPlay from my Mac to the Apple TV. Ironically I was able to watch the Royals in the postseason just fine on my iPad. So the one year I don't watch the Chiefs the Royals were tearing it up. Hah. I want to watch NFL games again this year but I have no idea what to do. Guess I'll just have to hope the Royals keep it going so I can be entertained…even though football is way better.
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Do like me and watch real futbol. I have a close friend whose son is a trainer for Sporting Kansas. They actually won the cup a couple of years ago. Or watch the USA in the gold cup.
 
This is worthless. Looks like I will be doing the same thing as last year. Use a VPN to pretend I'm from Brazil (or wherever the game pass is cheapest and the VPN has a connection) and then stream it to my TV via HDMI from my Mac Mini.
 
69Mustang said:
Your entire quote is an anachronism regarding Fantasy Sports. Fantasy happens real time. The actual game/team doesn't even matter. You can literally rule fantasy without ever watching a single game. "... just read numbers in the paper." What's this paper you speak of?
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Watching HOW a player plays vs just raw numbers helps the fantasy owner decide what players to pick up, drop and play each week.

A player might get lucky and have great stats. You can watch and know that he will stop getting lucky. Another player might play great, but have poor stats due to holding penalties called during his runs - negating his plays. Maybe a QB has horrible stats because of a poor lineman who is protecting him. That might change when the coach switched up linemen. Sometimes you won't know until you watch.

Many times a team has a huge comeback, and I like to watch how it actually played out, not just the highlights. The final score is not the be all end all
 
jklps said:
There is too much information through websites and commentary to gain any advantage on just pure numbers these days. For those looking for an edge is competitive leagues, sometimes you have to actually see what a player does beyond a few highlights.
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That's not how Fantasy Football works. You can't change your roster once your players' games start. The tracking is real time through any decent fantasy site (ESPN, Yahoo, CBSSports, etc). Highlights have nothing to do with fantasy, especially within the context of bbeagle's comment about getting some advantage from watching day old games. Fantasy Football has almost nothing to do with actual teams. FF is about individual players. Seeing them the next day does nothing.
 
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