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I actually read through the comments just to see if anyone else thought this. :)

The bottom row is applications, while the top is system functions. The bottom row even has different shaped icons (rounded rectangles) that match application icons.

Understand that they didn't have room, but it seems a bit random to stick it below. For some reason I would think the rotation-lock icon might be better suited below, though that doesn't really make a lot of sense as it isn't an app either. The whole Control Center (to my eyes) looks very messy anyway (try playing music, then look at Control Center, and there is a mess of text and icons that must scare the hell out of non-technical people), so I agree about the re-organisation is iOS 10.
Yeah, it's been talked about in quite a few iOS 9.3 beta threads. So far the most likely conclusion about that is that they want to have the option in Control Center but there really isn't much room for it in the top section where it would fit in more, which is why they likely put it where it is (at least for now).
 
"More Warm" and "Less Warm" are bad grammar and are less communicative than "Warmer" and "Cooler."
"More warm" and "Less warm" are perfectly correct grammar. "Cooler" is not the correct wording for an adjustment that warms the screen. At no point does Night Shift set the color of the display to cooler than the default; every setting warms the tint.
 
Downside to Betas...you like something and they take it away. Night Shift + Low Power Mode = Me Happy.
 
It probably uses your location to look up local sunrise/sunset times. Not a huge drain but a background process nonetheless.

shouldn't need to happen more then once a day at most, less assuming you aren't on a plane going somewhere far away. guessing they will revert this restriction within a few weeks anyway.
 
I would have to say Night Shift is disabled in Low Power Mode because you can't use more battery and have color cyles at the same time since color cycle would use *more* battery, not *less* which is what the user is aiming for with Low Power Mode? My guess.

Either way, it must be due to battery not being saved....

When Low power mode on allot of settings would get disabled to 'conserve' power, so this may be why .

Then Apple may reverse this decision.. :| just to prove me wrong
 
"More warm" and "Less warm" are perfectly correct grammar. "Cooler" is not the correct wording for an adjustment that warms the screen. At no point does Night Shift set the color of the display to cooler than the default; every setting warms the tint.

I would say that the average user has no idea what color temperature is, so Apple should not be using this kind of metaphor at all. This feature should be described to users by what it does for them.
 
I would say that the average user has no idea what color temperature is, so Apple should not be using this kind of metaphor at all. This feature should be described to users by what it does for them.
It's not a metaphor, it's literally what it is. How else should Apple be describing it, using something that it's actually not?
 
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Cracks me up when I read, "blue light blinded me when LPM was turned on". A few short weeks ago, we didn't even have Night Shift. This is still beta. Send feedback to the right place! Whining about it here won't change anything.
 
NightShift is probably done using ColorSync. When slowly transitioning from day to night, the whole color transformation tables need to be updated over and over again and the cocoa change notification need to be transported to all active applications during the time of the change which in turn would again change their appearance over and over again. Even if this notification will not be parsed, all application need nontheless be woken up for a short period of time. To make the change not noticeable, there would be several iterations, draining unnecessary power. As we all know, the low power mode is here for precisely hindering that. Therefore disabled. They could theoretically not fire a notification during low power mode, but therefore creating the need for cached notifications getting active as soon as an application gets active. But this - to my knowledge - does not exist in the cocoa framework. Maybe in a later version but it looks like they are not there yet. That's my guess.

Thanks for the thorough explanation, but could you or someone dumb it down for us non-tech savvy people?
 
Yeah, it's been talked about in quite a few iOS 9.3 beta threads. So far the most likely conclusion about that is that they want to have the option in Control Center but there really isn't much room for it in the top section where it would fit in more, which is why they likely put it where it is (at least for now).

They should just group screen related features in the same section, i.e next to the luminosity slider :

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I still wish nightshift mode meant the dark mode interface i've been hoping for since iOS7 debuted

That shouldn't be too much to ask for. An off-white mode is still much harder on your eyes than a white text on black background when you're in a dark environment.

Great reply and it makes sense. It also uses the location services because it adjusts turning on based on sunrise and sunset times.
[doublepost=1456937278][/doublepost]Apple should keep it turned on if we have a Custom schedule selected but I'm guessing its harder to do this.

I really hope they don't overthink it like this... sunrise/sunset are completely irrelevant since you could be indoors.

What it really tells me is that Nightshift might be really for slightly reducing awakeness from your phone screen at night, rather than to not burn your eyes out in dark settings.
 
It's not a metaphor, it's literally what it is. How else should Apple be describing it, using something that it's actually not?

Of course it's a metaphor. While there is a scientific basis in color temperature as it describes light coming from a comparable heat source, 'warm' and 'cool' are not related to this. It is a psychological association with these colors – blue is viewed as 'cool' by us (or at least in Western cultures), while red/yellow is seen as hot, even though in terms of color temp. a bluish tint comes from a higher temperature. From the Wikipedia page on color temperature:
Color temperatures over 5,000K are called cool colors (bluish white), while lower color temperatures (2,700–3,000 K) are called warm colors (yellowish white through red).[1] This relation, however, is a psychological one in contrast to the physical relation implied by Wien's displacement law, according to which the spectral peak is shifted towards shorter wavelengths (resulting in a more blueish white) for higher temperatures.

Apple should be describing color changes not in terms of "less/more warm", which means nothing to a typical user, but the effect it has on them or the situation in which the setting would be used. Look at the way lightbulbs are marketed – LED is usually marketed as more "revealing" while traditional yellowish bulbs are marketed as "soft" lighting. So something more like "Crisp" and "Soft" would be better, or "Focused" and "Relaxed".

Really though, I think Apple has begun to offer too many options in their software, so I'd rather they get rid of that slider and not allow manual control at all. I'd also re-design the whole settings interface and make it more icon-based.
 
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Apple should be describing color changes not in terms of "less/more warm", which means nothing to a typical user, but the effect it has on them or the situation in which the setting would be used. Look at the way lightbulbs are marketed – LED is usually marketed as more "revealing" while traditional yellowish bulbs are marketed as "soft" lighting. So something more like "Crisp" and "Soft" would be better, or "Focused" and "Relaxed".

Since the idea of Night Shift is to keep the blue light from supposedly disrupting the user's sleep cycle, maybe the "warm" end of the slider should have an icon of a bed, and the "cool" end should have an icon of a running figure (or something else signifying "awake")...

(I would suggest "moon" and "sun" icons, but those are already both used elsewhere in the control center.)

EDIT: Though I guess a "bed" isn't even necessarily culturally universal, huh? How about "closed eyes" and "open eyes"?
 
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I know this doesn't realllly matter but it's one of those little attention to detail things - but the night shift button doesn't fit with anything else in that row of the control centre. it would be better suited at the top - but of course there isn't room. Makes me think control centre will be up for a real reorganisation in iOS 10

I am really hoping for a user configurable control center. I would really like to swap the calculator (that I never use) for a button to turn my hot spot on and off (something I use frequently).
 
Of course it's a metaphor. While there is a scientific basis in color temperature as it describes light coming from a comparable heat source, 'warm' and 'cool' are not related to this. It is a psychological association with these colors – blue is viewed as 'cool' by us (or at least in Western cultures), while red/yellow is seen as hot, even though in terms of color temp. a bluish tint comes from a higher temperature. From the Wikipedia page on color temperature:


Apple should be describing color changes not in terms of "less/more warm", which means nothing to a typical user, but the effect it has on them or the situation in which the setting would be used. Look at the way lightbulbs are marketed – LED is usually marketed as more "revealing" while traditional yellowish bulbs are marketed as "soft" lighting. So something more like "Crisp" and "Soft" would be better, or "Focused" and "Relaxed".

Really though, I think Apple has begun to offer too many options in their software, so I'd rather they get rid of that slider and not allow manual control at all. I'd also re-design the whole settings interface and make it more icon-based.
So that's the actual terminology that is being used in relation to it, not a metaphor, right? As opposed to calling it non-standardized thorns like "crisp" or "relaxed" which plenty of people wouldn't know what that would mean and many would interpret the meanings of those things differently (more like a metaphor). Thankfully Apple is offering more options so that those that might care could adjust them if they want, and those who don't can leave them be as if they aren't there--works out better for more people rather than limiting things.
 
I find this kinda stupid.

When is battery at its lowest? At night after you've been using your phone all day. Now the user needs to choose between Low Power Mode and Night Shift mode at a time when both are desired and were designed to be used.

I know I sound like a broken record, but God I miss the days when Apple put user experience at the core of its design philosophy.
 
I find this kinda stupid.

When is battery at its lowest? At night after you've been using your phone all day. Now the user needs to choose between Low Power Mode and Night Shift mode at a time when both are desired and were designed to be used.

I know I sound like a broken record, but God I miss the days when Apple put user experience at the core of its design philosophy.
While I agree that it would be good to be able to use both, perhaps user experience is part of why Apple made the change, so that Low Power Mode's usefulness isn't undermined by something that needs more battery power.
 
Apple with some really bad grammar here. It should be more warmth, and less warmth. Not "more warm", "less warm" - what are we? cavemen?
 
I don't want my screen to ever turn yellow!

I've been waiting for Dark Mode!

Apple can't even seem to properly implement dark mode in maps app...it only works when turn-by-turn directions are active, and it does not come on soon enough for me, but, there is no on/off button.
 
Now the user needs to choose between Low Power Mode and Night Shift mode at a time when both are desired and were designed to be used. ...I miss the days when Apple put user experience at the core of its design philosophy.
Making a design decision that doesn't align with your opinion of how something should work doesn't mean that a designer isn't putting user experience first. If a feature draws more power, it's reasonable to switch it off, based on the assumption that most users would like to use their phone for longer than they would if the phone shut off because that power drawing feature was enabled.
If Apple enables a feature in low power mode that draws more power, users would also complain that Apple isn't cutting user experience first and is causing phones to run out of battery prematurely. Consequently, you can see that this is not as simple a choice as you appear to think it is.
Alternately, this is just a bug that hasn't yet been resolved by Apple.
 
Has anyone else had an issue with Night Shift not turning off automatically if you have it set on a schedule? I have mine set to turn off at a specific time (7am), not with the sun, and it has still been on hours later on many different days.

The icons don't show that it is on, so I have to switch those to on and then back to off to get the screen back to the normal daytime color temperature. It was every day in the earliest beta, but now it is about half the time. I've sent in feedback about it, but haven't seen anyone else mention it and it hasn't been fixed on my device.
 
Just doesn't make common sense. When would you most likely need low power mode. At night. When would you most likely need night shift? At night. Get a clue Apple and at least give us the choice.
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You can turn night shift on in low power using Siri.

Daaaaamn son...nice find!
 
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