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cuz its a *****torm waiting to happen with noobs not knowing what it means and just enabling it cuz the icon looks pretty. releasing something without having the other part ready for another half year or so seems very microsoft to me

Typical use case: my mother. She takes photos on both her iPad and her iPhone and wants to see all her photos on both devices. Her eight year old MacBook doesn't get used much and it's for word processing Rather than casual browsing and photo viewing. In this scenario, iCloud photos is great because all her edits will instantly be saved, and her videos too. Photostream doesn't need to be on and all her photos, pretty much forever, will be backed up online.
 
cuz its a *****torm waiting to happen with noobs not knowing what it means and just enabling it cuz the icon looks pretty. releasing something without having the other part ready for another half year or so seems very microsoft to me


I don't think it's a high percentage of iOS users that use a Mac, let alone iphoto. It does give you a prompt before enabling it. I don't think it's as big of a '****storm' as you think it will be. Yes there will be some with the issue, but a small percentage of total users.
 
I apologise if this has already been posted, but I have run into the same situation of not being able to access my photos after blindly choosing to 'optimise and store on iCloud'.
I've just tried adding compressed photos from my camera roll to a new album and when you press 'edit' there is an option to download from iCloud to store offline. It appears to be downloading now; I will post with an update if it works (fingers crossed)

Might be worth trying if others run into the same situation.
 
IMO what I think is going to happen is that when IOS8 is released iCloud on the web will be updated and you will be able to access your iCloud Photos there on your Mac in lieu of Photos for Mac being released. I imagine the web access will allow you to download the pictures. I can't imagine Apple not providing some method of getting these pictures at IOS8 release time. But then again I've been wrong about them and iCloud before. Like IOS still has no way to read pdf's stored by Preview on iCloud.
 
IMO what I think is going to happen is that when IOS8 is released iCloud on the web will be updated and you will be able to access your iCloud Photos there on your Mac in lieu of Photos for Mac being released. I imagine the web access will allow you to download the pictures. I can't imagine Apple not providing some method of getting these pictures at IOS8 release time. But then again I've been wrong about them and iCloud before. Like IOS still has no way to read pdf's stored by Preview on iCloud.

I hope you're right....the absurdity of iCloud Photo library as stands today a week before iOS 8 GM is staggering.
 
I hope you're right....the absurdity of iCloud Photo library as stands today a week before iOS 8 GM is staggering.


It's still in beta, not really the best way to judge it. We won't know anything concrete until iOS 8 launches really. For all we know, iPhoto may get a patch when iOS 8 launches, or maybe it's even just a behind the scenes switch to be flicked.

To call it absurd, when it's not the officially released product yet is the absurdity.

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IMO what I think is going to happen is that when IOS8 is released iCloud on the web will be updated and you will be able to access your iCloud Photos there on your Mac in lieu of Photos for Mac being released. I imagine the web access will allow you to download the pictures. I can't imagine Apple not providing some method of getting these pictures at IOS8 release time. But then again I've been wrong about them and iCloud before. Like IOS still has no way to read pdf's stored by Preview on iCloud.


There were rumours about preview app for iOS, icon included. That may still come yet.
 
cuz its a *****torm waiting to happen with noobs not knowing what it means and just enabling it cuz the icon looks pretty. releasing something without having the other part ready for another half year or so seems very microsoft to me

Agreed. Oddly enough when logging into the cloud on Windows 8 there weren' t any issues pulling down pictures and docs from iCloud.
 
It's still in beta, not really the best way to judge it. We won't know anything concrete until iOS 8 launches really. For all we know, iPhoto may get a patch when iOS 8 launches, or maybe it's even just a behind the scenes switch to be flicked.

To call it absurd, when it's not the officially released product yet is the absurdity.

That might be the line for Beta 1. Not the final Beta prior to GM. Not when the public launch is two weeks away. Not when the OS X release is in DP 7 and a few weeks from release, with no mention of it. Not when the next version of Mavericks has been in beta testing for a while, also with no mention. Such a thing would be tested.

So....now that we got the "its beta" misnomer out of the way....we can agree, it is absurd the way it is going to half-launch.
 
That might be the line for Beta 1. Not the final Beta prior to GM. Not when the public launch is two weeks away. Not when the OS X release is in DP 7 and a few weeks from release, with no mention of it. Not when the next version of Mavericks has been in beta testing for a while, also with no mention. Such a thing would be tested.



So....now that we got the "its beta" misnomer out of the way....we can agree, it is absurd the way it is going to half-launch.


Are you working in he developer team at Apple? Are you a time traveller?! How can you know there's no patch for iPhoto to come out?! Maybe they don't need to test anything, as it's just an expansion of photo stream, the coding is there, just needs a tweak.

Now if they don't release any patch or some way to deal with it, within a week or so after iOS 8 is released to the public, then I'll agree it's a half launch. Until then, it's all hypotheticals and guessing, being masqueraded as fact.
 
Chances are there is a beta public release of the photos app this iPhone keynote and this will tied us over until final release early next year.

This did happen with FaceTime.
 
Are you working in he developer team at Apple? Are you a time traveller?! How can you know there's no patch for iPhoto to come out?! Maybe they don't need to test anything, as it's just an expansion of photo stream, the coding is there, just needs a tweak.

Now if they don't release any patch or some way to deal with it, within a week or so after iOS 8 is released to the public, then I'll agree it's a half launch. Until then, it's all hypotheticals and guessing, being masqueraded as fact.

Sounds good! We agree. What IS going to happen is a ridiculous half launch. And I won't force you to believe it until you have to.

But just so you know....I know it isn't coming to iPhoto, because of all of the info we have on the matter.
 
Sounds good! We agree. What IS going to happen is a ridiculous half launch. And I won't force you to believe it until you have to.



But just so you know....I know it isn't coming to iPhoto, because of all of the info we have on the matter.


No, we don't agree yet.

Please provide links to this info you claim we have.
 
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