Nilay Patel was more off then I realized

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by Gooberton, May 20, 2015.

  1. Gooberton macrumors 65816

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    His horrible horrible review I now understand how bad it was having the Apple watch a month now. The notorious bar notification scene. In hindsight he was 100% reviewing with an agenda, a. Because the notifications are the same exact thing as my phone and everyone has a phone, and b. I keep my watch on mute so it never interupts anything I ever do, let alone the absurd and rediculous self serving manner he portrayed it.
    And after coming to this conclusion I realized I think he's a bad person deep down let alone on the surface when you add this to the Twitter stuff
     
  2. dannyyankou macrumors 603

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    He knew about the mute function. He just didn't want to mention it because it didn't fit his agenda.
     
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    Yeah. You know those guys at the Verge. Total Apple haters... :rolleyes:
     
  4. melman101 macrumors 68030

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    I actually agree with the OP. I felt Nilay was way off when I watched the review, and I still feel that way.

    If he doesn't want to be bothered by notifications, he can turn them off. I felt his complaints weren't really true problems with the exception of the 3rd party apps running slow.
     
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    Gotta love the Twitter picture of him flipping the bird with his Apple Watch arm.
    He really is quite the man-child. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Gooberton thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Obviously they have been all for Apple but someting changed clearly. Mabey the watch wasn't free this time. :) :) Nilay is pretty shallow so who knows what hurt his pride
     
  7. perezr10 macrumors 6502a

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    I agree with Gooberton. Nilay does terrible reviews in general though. I get the impression he's hard on things because it's fashionable. His reviews are not straightforward honest reviews but done with other aims in mind. I think he's trying to show the countless Apple haters that deluge his sight that he's honest by bending over backwards to find fault with Apple. If so, that is poor journalism that does the consumer a disservice.
     
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    To play devil's advocate, I believe his grievance wasn't just that there were too many notifications, it's that notifications were all or nothing for each app. Or, at least, they mirror the exact phone notifications for each app without the ability to further modify the notifications for the watch. So, for example, let's say I want Facebook to notify me on my phone whenever someone likes a post, but on the watch I only want notifications if someone comments on my posts, there's no way to do that. Either I lose those notifications on my phone, or I get all the notifications on my watch.

    All that being said, I do agree that the review was far too doom and gloom, and was essentially predicated on the idea that no matter what the Apple Watch did, nobody needs a smartwatch, so don't buy any.
     
  9. daijholt macrumors 6502a

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    The "I'm more aware of how many people I'm ignoring than ever before" comment is what got me.

    Oh you have a message from jim? Can you reply? No because you're busy? He'll just have to suck it up and wait won't he.

    It's as if he lives his life according to everyone else's schedule.

    Anyone who expects an instant reply in anything other than a face to face conversation needs to take 5 and learn how people with lives, jobs and responsibility actually operate.
     
  10. ddkkpp macrumors 6502

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    i love the discreet notifications that I can check later or when there's a pause in the conversation.

    I will mirror whoever I'm with, and if they check their phone, I'll check my watch at that moment. I do feel like I need my phone less now.. :D

    Overall I think Nilay was being obtuse about the Watch, but got that sense immediately upon reading it. I could tell he was stretching to hate it.
     
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    I lost all respect for Nilay back when he said he didn't see any noticeable reduction in screen glare on the iPad Air 2. The guy is a boob of a writer. I probably would have lost all respect for him way earlier if I had been aware of his crappy writing.
     
  12. cdm283813 macrumors 6502

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    OP - What do you want? Do you want everybody reviewing the watch to give it high marks and not criticize certain issues? The way I see it criticism makes products better. I spoke out against the iPhone 6 and iOS 8 when I first got it. iOS 8 was a buggy mess. Returned it for a Note 4. Then bought a iPad Air 2 a few months later and I now love iOS. Enough to make me want a iPhone 6S.
    Hate when people sweep things under the rug because they want to play the fanboy role. If everyone labeled the watch as perfect you wouldn't have updates to make the product better. What is Apple going to do? Kill it off because folks are making it out to be a bad product?
     
  13. perezr10 macrumors 6502a

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    Honest criticism is ok. It's good for everyone. Dishonest boobs like Nilay should be called out.
     
  14. cmichaelb, May 20, 2015
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    Until his apple watch review I hadn't read anything if his since his editorial in 2012 saying he was voting for Obama solely on the issue of net neutrality.

    The guy is not cut out for his job and is WAY to arrogant. If you've ever seen him on TWIT you'll know what I mean- his opinion is the only correct one for everything.

    He had some good points in his review overall, that bar scene was just ridiculous.
     
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    You've picked a rather extreme example, but we all know you can customize notifications to be different from the iPhone, as opposed to merely mirroring the iPhone. So that's a false premise.
     
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    I don't agree with his review or his Twitter tirade, but he's not a bad person, nor does he have an agenda. He does have a tendency to get hung up on things many wouldn't mind.
     
  17. Gooberton thread starter macrumors 65816

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    It's not about fanboism, he was reaching as far as he could reach for a bad review. It would be like me reviewing a 55" Samsung TV and saying , it's just to big, no one needs this I should have stuck to my radio.
    It has no merit and is missing the point of the whole review
     
  18. cdm283813 macrumors 6502

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    Let's not pretend that Nilay is the only one calling out the watch. Almost everyone reviewing the watch had something negative to say. And these were the folks that got first crack directly from Apple.
    Stop pretending that this watch is a 9 out of 10 or A+. It is just not true and that's ok. It's a first gen product that still needs work to make it a must buy. Eventually it will get there but it's not happening this year unless we see a price drop. The very first iPhone went through the same thing.
     
  19. Gooberton thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Do you own one? It's an easy 9/10

    I say this after over a month, I'm not just defending it with no experience
     
  20. perezr10 macrumors 6502a

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    At best, he's just incompetent. He's like that lazy employee who just whips stuff out without carrying how good it is. All Apple products have their drawbacks worthy of criticism. But it's like Nilay doesn't use them long enough to find out what they are. So he invents things that don't deserve being criticized. I seriously finish some of his reviews doubting he's used the product for more than 24 hours.
     
  21. Gooberton thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I looked at your posts and in fact you don't own one, how in gods earth can you say how good or bad it is? You have no clue
     
  22. perezr10 macrumors 6502a

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    No argument from me. Take you for instance, you who devote a large part of your life coming here to grouse about Apple products. Why? Who knows. But if you have a valid criticism it's great. The other negative reviews about the Apple watch rang true with me. Nilay's work is like out of left field.

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    Ha! That's so funny. I looked at his history too and its just him bashing Apple.
     
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    The Verge is a dying blog. I don't expect it to last through the end of 2016 unless they fire a lot of people and overhaul their website. Everyone knows he is full of crap. It does wonders for the image of The Verge to have such a racist luddite on staff pushing his personal agenda.
     
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    Other than trashing someone you don't even know....

    Do you have a point?

    Is this supposed to contribute to anyone's knowledge of an Apple product?

    Just asking :)
     
  25. Natzoo macrumors 65816

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    Think he is trying to say is that the apple watch is not apple quality good.
     

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