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Well we should all know that Nintendo has a new DS coming at E3 this year in June. The system will be capable of 3D effects without the use of glasses. I think Nintendo will make their system different enough from what Apple offers on the iPhone.
 
It's amazing how childish some people are. Everything revolves around what they love the most in life, in this case Apple. With their logic I guess Apple copied Nintendo and their 1980 game and watch series. Perhaps Nintendo copied the black DS from one of those black laptops.

I've gamed for 20 years. I know what a G&W is - played it the first time around. Grew up on Nintendo. Clearly the DS, and even the GBA SP were throwbacks to that form factor. But to deny that between the DS and DS Lite, that Nintendo didn't look around and observe other design cues (a la Apple) is absolutely mind boggling to me.

I've found myself trying to convince internet strangers that two products that look similar, look similar. Beyond being white and having a hinge. Another fail for common sense and observation I guess.
 
Device pricing and game IP are the areas that Nintendo has over Apple.

Also think both have their core markets and the overlap is where they'll be fighting for a bit of extra pocket money, on top of the considerable profits they make anyway :D
 
I've gamed for 20 years. I know what a G&W is - played it the first time around.

See, now we know you're just trying to save face.

G&W was produced from 1980 to 1985. To have "played it the first time around", you would've needed to be gaming for 25 to 30 years (we're in 2010...).

And as for your design cues, what besides white plastic makes them "alike" ? Seriously, you have nothing because what you're trying to convince us is "factual to anyone with eyeballs" isn't actually there to begin with.

Come back to reality for a second and realise that everything does not revolve around Apple. Apple aren't the only ones that can design something and they haven't somehow trademarked white plastic.
 
Totally agreed!

Nintendo and Nokia beat Apple on quality from head to toe.

Take the Nokia 3300's series for example: A car runs over the darn phone and you can still make calls from it... even after the shell shatters.

Now on Nintendo's side: The original gameboy took the same abuse with a car running over it. Still work like nothing happened...

How do I know? I had BOTH of these situation happened to me.

I haven't seen ANY Apple product stand up to that kind of abuse. Not even the original iPhone that was built out of aluminum can stand up against such abuse. The gameboy and Nokia 3300's have plastic shell mind you.

Apple's quality has definitely slipped over the years as they've gotten bigger and bigger, but I have to say when I dropped my iPhone getting out of my car the glass screen shattered, but everything still worked. I guess that's why they make those cases.
 
Traditionally, Nintendo has always geared their products toward kids, though with the Wii and DS, they were able to expand that. I wonder if this thing with Apple will affect their strategies at all.
No no no. Nintendo are universal, they develop mature games (Metroid), universal games (Mario), hardcore games (F-Zero, Smash Bros). They don't develop games specifically for children unlike Ubisoft and Sony.

Now thats been said, I ask you all. Why is this even a debate, how does Apple NOT win in this situation?
Because the games on Apple's system are nowhere near as good as the games on Nintendo's system. That's why they don't win.
 
Well we should all know that Nintendo has a new DS coming at E3 this year in June. The system will be capable of 3D effects without the use of glasses. I think Nintendo will make their system different enough from what Apple offers on the iPhone.

I agree. Nintendo's becoming a much more experimental if gimmicky company. The 3DS might be the next big thing in gaming, but my money is on AR.

Oh, and in reference to Nintendo's quality over Apple's, I believe both companies have been slipping. Apple obviously uses higher quality materials, but they're often shottily put together overseas, or not built sound enough forthe abuses of the American public. They're slick just the same. No one beats Apple's industrial design. Nintendo, on the other hand, builds devices specifically for the wear and tear of children, their primary market before going all blue ocean strategy on everyone. That said, I've know of at least half a dozen people that have bricked their Wiis when their power went out. Even the tiniest powersurge seems to affect the Wii. I know, I know use a surget protector, duh, but this is the gen pop where talking about. The Wiimotes aren't very shock, or temperature resistant either. I don't know how many of those I've gone through. It's really a balance between cost and durability of said materials versus a companies ability to make a profit.
 
I agree. Nintendo's becoming a much more experimental if gimmicky company. The 3DS might be the next big thing in gaming, but my money is on AR.

Becoming ? Someone missed R.O.B., the Power Pad, the Power Glove, the Nintendo Mouse, the Superscope, Virtual Boy... do I really need to go on ?

Nintendo has always been an experimental gimmicky company. Some of the posters in this thread are really ridiculous...
 
That said, I've know of at least half a dozen people that have bricked their Wiis when their power went out. Even the tiniest powersurge seems to affect the Wii. I know, I know use a surget protector, duh, but this is the gen pop where talking about. The Wiimotes aren't very shock, or temperature resistant either. I don't know how many of those I've gone through. It's really a balance between cost and durability of said materials versus a companies ability to make a profit.

If you do the same to your precious iMac, MacBook, or any Apple product, you'll get the same result: a brick. That's not to say that only Apple products would suffer such abuse. ALL electronics suffer the consequences of a power surge. That's why they make surge protectors to start with. They also warned you in their manual that you need to plug your new toy (TV, game system, DVR, etc.) into a surge protector. My friend's iMac stopped working when she left for a week WITH the surge protector plugged in. There were two power outages in her neighborhood during the period that she wasn't home. I told her to get a UPS to make sure she has power for her computers just in case it happens again or just unplug her iMac when she goes on vacation again. She couldn't get her iMac working until she call Apple to fix it.

I have two Wii's 1 that's now 2 1/2 years old and the other is a year old. Both still work really well. The one that's 2 1/2 years old is being used by my friends, my niece and her friends, and my students. Nothing happened to it just yet. That screams quality to me.
 
No no no. Nintendo are universal, they develop mature games (Metroid), universal games (Mario), hardcore games (F-Zero, Smash Bros). They don't develop games specifically for children unlike Ubisoft and Sony.


Because the games on Apple's system are nowhere near as good as the games on Nintendo's system. That's why they don't win.

This is a good summary to why i sold my Wii and DS. Nintendo have some great games like the ones you mention but beside that there is very little games for "hardcore" gamers. I want a console for more then 3-4 games a year and with other stars then Mario/Metroid/Zelda.
Also the fact that the graphic is lousy dont help. I know graphic isnt everything but today there are just sooooo many great games available on both PS3 and 360 that graphic comes into the mix.
For the time being Nintendo have found itself a niche market with the "family" games but soon enough they wont have that market all for them self since Sony/MS are going after that market as well.
My guess is Nintendo will eventually disappear as Sega did (this is my believe atleast) since they dont have the money/hardware/developer support to compete on both fronts (portable and console) and in this business 3 is 1 to many as we seen earlier.
 
My guess is Nintendo will eventually disappear as Sega did (this is my believe atleast) since they dont have the money/hardware/developer support to compete on both fronts (portable and console) and in this business 3 is 1 to many as we seen earlier.


Don't make me laugh. Nintendo will never disappear as the company has been around a LOT longer than Apple. It started in Japan since 1889. Look it up. Some of you Apple fan bois thought Apple should buy Nintendo out. Dream on. Microsoft TRIED to years ago but the japanese head honchos said 'no thank you'.

This site is so full of 'Duh, Amerika" that it's so nauseating.

Oh, and SEGA is still around.
 
I agree. Nintendo's becoming a much more experimental if gimmicky company. The 3DS might be the next big thing in gaming, but my money is on AR.

Oh, and in reference to Nintendo's quality over Apple's, I believe both companies have been slipping. Apple obviously uses higher quality materials, but they're often shottily put together overseas, or not built sound enough forthe abuses of the American public. They're slick just the same. No one beats Apple's industrial design. Nintendo, on the other hand, builds devices specifically for the wear and tear of children, their primary market before going all blue ocean strategy on everyone. That said, I've know of at least half a dozen people that have bricked their Wiis when their power went out. Even the tiniest powersurge seems to affect the Wii. I know, I know use a surget protector, duh, but this is the gen pop where talking about. The Wiimotes aren't very shock, or temperature resistant either. I don't know how many of those I've gone through. It's really a balance between cost and durability of said materials versus a companies ability to make a profit.

It happened to my cousin's Wii when they suddenly disconnected it or something. It's very easy to fix, just plug it into one of those bathroom outlets that have a reset button, press reset, and that's it. It actually works. Just Google "Wii won't turn on." It's a rare problem, but very easy to fix.
 
It happened to my cousin's Wii when they suddenly disconnected it or something. It's very easy to fix, just plug it into one of those bathroom outlets that have a reset button, press reset, and that's it. It actually works. Just Google "Wii won't turn on." It's a rare problem, but very easy to fix.

You do understand what that reset button does right ? It has nothing to do with what is plugged into the outlet.

What you said makes no sense.
 
You do understand what that reset button does right ? It has nothing to do with what is plugged into the outlet.

What you said makes no sense.

Makes no sense to you, but it has worked for those who's had a brick Wii due to a power surge and did a google search. Don't knock something just because you don't understand it. It's as simple as plugging it in and pressing the reset button. It resets the Wii.
 
Tried doing a google search, but can't seem to find the page that I found when I fixed my cousin's Wii. The only thing that I found when I did a google search for "gfci wii won't turn on" was a dead link, that on it's preview had this written - "So basically, it won't turn on and I don't know why. ... Re: Wii won't turn on :s .... Resetting it using a GFCI outlet totally worked. ..." I believe that's the thread that I found when I originally did the search, lucky that I did it when it did, else I wouldn't have found the solution so easily. By the way a GFCI outlet is the outlet that has a reset button.
 
Whining CEO's

Nokia and now Nintendo...arghhh...just because they don't have the winning gadget of the last decade - they whine and complain.

Just because innovation and market share is being sucked from them...

Just because they lost their marbles to a better player...

Grow up Nintendo!! :apple:
 
Don't make me laugh. Nintendo will never disappear as the company has been around a LOT longer than Apple. It started in Japan since 1889. Look it up. Some of you Apple fan bois thought Apple should buy Nintendo out. Dream on. Microsoft TRIED to years ago but the japanese head honchos said 'no thank you'.

This site is so full of 'Duh, Amerika" that it's so nauseating.

Oh, and SEGA is still around.

Giggle - FanGirl and loving it! :apple:
 
Nintendo doesn't need to make an enemy of anyone, they are in their own "niche". Nintendo was doing touch and tilt gaming long before Apple was, so now that Apple devices are really making use of touch and tilt gaming, Nintendo probably feels Apple is stepping over into their area of entertainment. I don't think Nintendo can hope to compete with Apple though, when Nintendo's CEO believes "low-tech" re-invented is the way of the future.

I worked on a Nintendo Wii game before, and though the Wii had decent texture memory, the GPU was sorely underpowered. I don't think that leads to just "creative solutions" in this day and age, it leads to "compromises". We came up with a few creative solutions mind you, but always- at the expense of something else. We found ourselves stripping things down all the time. That's not really the best way to produce quality entertainment.

Nintendo makes great family entertainment devices. The Nintendo Wii is fun (though the drive in mine stopped working after 1 year.) The Nintendo DSi XL looks awesome, and I'd get one- if the graphics didn't look so outdated.

Kids love Nintendo products and games, and many of the games are very kid friendly- that's great! For adults however, Nintendo offers little more than brief distractions. I love Animal Crossing, on the Gamecube, DS and Wii. Legend of Zelda and Metroid are awesome games that can only be played on a Nintendo system. The one thing that disappointed me though, were all these crappy small-bundle game packs that flooded into the Wii market. Junkware.
 
Nokia and now Nintendo...arghhh...just because they don't have the winning gadget of the last decade - they whine and complain.

They don't have the winning gadget?
The NES, the Super Nintendo, the Gameboy, the GBA, the DS, the Wii, the DSi XL have all been the best selling systems in their markets. Mario and Pokemon are the 2 best selling game franchises ever. The Wii is set to become the best selling console ever.
http://www.vgchartz.com/
Also use the multiquote/edit function.

I don't think Nintendo can hope to compete with Apple though, when Nintendo's CEO believes "low-tech" re-invented is the way of the future.
The Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2, it was almost on par with the original Xbox too. The N64 was very powerful too. It is just this previous generation that they didn't go for power. This is not indicative of where they're going next. It has been long rumoured the next DS will use a Tegra chip too.

The one thing that disappointed me though, were all these crappy small-bundle game packs that flooded into the Wii market.
Oh my yes. Though Nintendo are not to blame for their 3rd party output.

I don't get how people can complain about the amount of shovelware on the Wii yet use the iPhones huge list of cheap shovelware games as something to celebrate. (Not directed to the guy I'm quoting)
 
why does nintendo take apple as a threat they have different category in gaming. nintendo is more on video games and apple for PC and mobile games. why dont nintendo just concentrate in developing new and improved video games. well I still love mario :p
 
why does nintendo take apple as a threat they have different category in gaming. nintendo is more on video games and apple for PC and mobile games. why dont nintendo just concentrate in developing new and improved video games. well I still love mario :p

Bolded part is what Nintendo is worried about.


My 2cents:
I don't see Apple putting Nintendo out of business in the handheld front. Nor do I see Apple moving into home console hardware.

For all those that still like to believe that Nintendo doesn't innovate, please explain the Playstation Move and Natal with a straight face. You may want to dwell on the parts where MS and Sony have basically admitted that "waggle" is where it is at.
 
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