No 32GB iPhone 6s

[JohnApples]

Make them all 128G and charge everyone for 128G. Worst case scenario, you'll have more storage than you'll ever need, which is a pretty darn good "worst case". ?????

You completely ignored the point I was making and made an irrelevant, hyperbolic comment. No body is asking for 128GB base storage. We're talking about 32GB base where the rest of the industry is, and has been.

For the most advanced and expensive smartphone in the world, I don't think that's asking for a lot.

 

[Apples n' Stone]

People who complain are those that want more than 16GB of space but are too stingy to pay the extra. So they moan because they want 32GB for the price of 16GB.

16GB OUTRAGE, THE: Term used when describing disgruntled customers who spent as little as possible on their iOS device and believe it is an outrage they should have to pay more for a device with a larger capacity. Despite it being their fault that they purchased a device evidently not suitable for them.

Check it out, Source: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/forum-dictionary.1908404/#post-21716008

 

[JohnApples]

16GB OUTRAGE, THE: Term used when describing disgruntled customers who spent as little as possible on their iOS device and believe it is an outrage they should have to pay more for a device with a larger capacity. Despite it being their fault that they purchased a device evidently not suitable for them.

Check it out, Source: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/forum-dictionary.1908404/#post-21716008

While I agree that if you buy the 16GB model, you have no one to blame but yourself (again the vote with your wallet concept) I disagree with the rest of the snide definition.

Paying as little as possible for an iOS device would be paying for the 2-year old model. When you buy the base flagship model, you are opting to pay a premium price for a premium product.

Once more, asking for a bump in base storage, especially after the other models were bumped without a price increase, is not unreasonable or "entitled" considering the tech advancements and drop in price for flash storage.

 

[Apples n' Stone]

While I agree that if you buy the 16GB model, you have no one to blame but yourself (again the vote with your wallet concept) I disagree with the rest of the snide definition.

Paying as little as possible for an iOS device would be paying for the 2-year old model. When you buy the base flagship model, you are opting to pay a premium price for a premium product.

Once more, asking for a bump in base storage, especially after the other models were bumped without a price increase, is not unreasonable or "entitled" considering the tech advancements and drop in price for flash storage.

To pay as little as possible for that particular device, is what is meant by "an iOS device" but I understand the lack of clarity. I shall ammend this in the post (It is a Wiki). The thing people fail to understand is that the base storage is aimed at business customers for instance, not those who wish to install every iteration of Angry Birds or shoot hours of HD porno.

If you want more storage, back in the day people paid more for 32GB. These days, you pay the same amount for double that. The marketting technique is to encourage the upper purchase with the extra 32GB promised. What people are asking for is not to pay the extra, or to reduce the prices. Apple may do this, but we should not feel ENTITLED to it.

I am glad you see this, it would be cheaper for the customer yes. But arguing that because a company is successful it MUST sacrifice some profit margins per device is what I disagree with. If they do, the tactical advantage is to aim to sell devices to a larger quanity of customers. What people fail to understand is that we do not make these decisions, Apple do.

Be thankful you are not after an S6 Edge. Where you must pay £749 which is 1152$ (for a 32GB model). And over £800 for 64GB. Which Apple charge less for the 128GB Plus model. And no SD slot anymore. I am not saying it is wrong, to hope for a storage bump. But acting like it is Apple's civic duty to offer a freebee is irritating. (I know you are not, that is just my point).

 

[Apples n' Stone]

They may do this accounting for the Flash pricing, but their *ahem* competition, are increasing their prices. It does not suggest they will or should. But your main points are nice.

 

[NayborAxi]

Can't believe some people here are OK with apple doing this. Apple has been having record profits quarter after quarter so clearly they are not hurting for money and the technology DID advance to the point where 16gb-32gb difference in cost is almost negligible yet they still want to force people to fork more money for something that should have there in the first place. Besides it's not like you get the full 16gb either that's why people complain you get like 12gb with nothing more than stock apps.

 

[Apples n' Stone]

The basic model is made for the people who only use the basic functionality?

But obviously, people should have to pay the same amount for more storage. APPARENTLY.

 

[Apples n' Stone]

Can't believe some people here are OK with apple doing this. Apple has been having record profits quarter after quarter so clearly they are not hurting for money and the technology DID advance to the point where 16gb-32gb difference in cost is almost negligible yet they still want to force people to fork more money for something that should have there in the first place. Besides it's not like you get the full 16gb either that's why people complain you get like 12gb with nothing more than stock apps.

You fail to comprehend the fact that people manage with 16GB as the capacity, it is popular particilarly for a business. They use a phone primarily as a phone, for emails and the internet. if you cannot manage with 16GB, which I agree is easy to do. Then why should you not need to pay more like the rest of us? A business such as Apple has the objective to earn profit and you are asking them to sacrifice this. Which is obviously a smart decision from their point of view. Right?

One day they may choose to drop 16GB, but that will likely be when it is not enough for the customers it is aimed at. Those who store little, not those who want to pay little. It is not aimed at users planning to use the features you suggest frequently, and with iCloud much of the storage can be handed off to the cloud. But yes, one day it will hot be enough and they will increase this as they did previously.

 

[MacRazySwe]

Wake up people, it's 2015 - 32GB should be the base model by now! Hell, HTC offered 32GB on their flagship phone back in 2013 (HTC One M7).

But of course, Apple are being greedy as **** and bean-counter Cook is improving his margins with every possible release. (iPhone 6, new MacBook comes to mind) I love my Apple-products, don't get me wrong, but honestly - it's getting obvious. Shareholders are probably stoked. I for one, am not (although I should be, shareholder and all). The main objective for Apple should be making the best possible products, not the best possible profits.

It will be interesting to see how the future evolves.

 

[Apples n' Stone]

So would you all be happy if they just chopped out the 16GB and kept all the prices as they are? Making 64GB the base model?

 

[NayborAxi]

So would you all be happy if they just chopped out the 16GB and kept all the prices as they are? Making 64GB the base model?

Nobody is saying they should offer 64gb as base. 16gb to 32gb cost apple maybe a $1 in difference yet they won't offer it just for pure greed. You are like some here that as long as it doesn't affect you personally then **** everybody else right? pathetic.

 

[joeblow7777]

So would you all be happy if they just chopped out the 16GB and kept all the prices as they are? Making 64GB the base model?

Isn't the argument that's being made that the pricing should remain the same but with 32GB capacity replacing the current 16GB model?

While I agree with what you said previously about how lots of users are in fact still fine with 16GB (storing media is not priority for all users), why would any costumer not want more capacity for the same price?

 

[C DM]

But obviously, people should have to pay the same amount for more storage. APPARENTLY.

Well, at some point Apple doubled the RAM in the phone and the price stayed the same. Same goes for many other components that became need and better as time went on but would still be part of the same price of the phone.

 

[Apples n' Stone]

Nobody is saying they should offer 64gb as base. 16gb to 32gb cost apple maybe a $1 in difference yet they won't offer it just for pure greed. You are like some here that as long as it doesn't affect you personally then **** everybody else right? pathetic.

As you may read, my signature shows otherwise. I would not be okay with 16GB but I amhapoy to pay more, for more storage.

 

[Apples n' Stone]

Isn't the argument that's being made that the pricing should remain the same but with 32GB capacity replacing the current 16GB model?

While I agree with what you said previously about how lots of users are in fact still fine with 16GB (storing media is not priority for all users), why would any costumer not want more capacity for the same price?

It would be good for us, yes! A great thing for some users to get the extra. But Apple are a company who, by definition have to bjective to make as good of a profit as possible. So I doubt they would follow this through until the Business market begins to decline in favour of a need for more storage as some software they may want installed will have storage requirements. So yes, I agree it would be nice. Just don't see it happening from their prospective.

 

[adamhenry]

Nobody is saying they should offer 64gb as base. 16gb to 32gb cost apple maybe a $1 in difference yet they won't offer it just for pure greed. You are like some here that as long as it doesn't affect you personally then **** everybody else right? pathetic.

I could never get by with 32G. The greedy jerks should give me 64G for the 16G price. People demanding a 32G base are ignoring those of us that need more than 32G. Pathetic!

 

[Apples n' Stone]

Well, at some point Apple doubled the RAM in the phone and the price stayed the same. Same goes for many other components that became need and better as time went on but would still be part of the same price of the phone.

Storage is the definitive factor, they do not make phones with different RAM configurations right now. Think of it this way, the lemonade is the same in each cup. But the cups have a small, medium and large size. Some people only want a quick snack so buy a small cup. Do people really want to drink more lemonade if all they are looking for is the small cup? If the lemonade gets better, say a higher quality. The same price would remain as the old standard is replaced.

If you were selling the lemonade, and the small was the most popular. Would you really replace this with the medium? For the same price?

 

[Apples n' Stone]

I could never get by with 32G. The greedy jerks should give me 64G for the 16G price. People demanding a 32G base are ignoring those of us that need more than 32G. Pathetic!

You are nailing it, brilliant! xD

 

[C DM]

Storage is the definitive factor, they do not make phones with different RAM configurations right now. Think of it this way, the lemonade is the same in each cup. But the cups have a small, medium and large size. Some people only want a quick snack so buy a small cup. Do people really want to drink more lemonade if all they are looking for is the small cup? If the lemonade gets better, say a higher quality. The same price would remain as the old standard is replaced.

If you were selling the lemonade, and the small was the most popular. Would you really replace this with the medium? For the same price?

When it comes to things of this nature the cheapest would essentially always be the most popular simply because it is the cheapest.

 

[joeblow7777]

It would be good for us, yes! A great thing for some users to get the extra. But Apple are a company who, by definition have to bjective to make as good of a profit as possible. So I doubt they would follow this through until the Business market begins to decline in favour of a need for more storage as some software they may want installed will have storage requirements. So yes, I agree it would be nice. Just don't see it happening from their prospective.

I don't know, I think it might be time. They've gone from a 4GB base, to 8GB, to 16GB. They've been at 16GB for a while now. And just as before, media and apps are larger files than they used to be.

 

[Apples n' Stone]

When it comes to things of this nature the cheapest would essentially always be the most popular simply because it is the cheapest.

Exactly. But some people do not want a pint.

 

[Apples n' Stone]

I don't know, I think it might be time. They've gone from a 4GB base, to 8GB, to 16GB. They've been at 16GB for a while now. And just as before, media and apps are larger files than they used to be.

With the 4GB "flight ceiling" it is something they may do. But considering the fact they just brought down 64 to the price of 32. And trying to solve the "cannot update because X free storage" with iOS 9. I think they might keep it for this year or two. A 16GB base iPhone in 2017 would be taking the mick yes.

All evidence is pointing towards 16GB with regards to the current leaks. But if those prove wrong, good for us!

 

[C DM]

Exactly. But some people do not want a pint.

And there are times when the smallest size is no longer what is generally seen as small. Things progress, and that much quicker in the mobile technology world.

 

[Apples n' Stone]

And there are times when the smallest size is no longer what is generally seen as small. Things progress, and that much quicker in the mobile technology world.

You say this, but there are still customers happy with the small. Just that one in the line haggling to get a larger cup for the small price. Eventually they probably will, but the demand is too great right now if the leaks prove to be true. Only Apple will decide when that is, for now you might just need to pay the extra £75 or whichever currency your region uses if you truly want the extra storage, if not I suggest using iCloud for some things.

 

[Retired Cat]

I am thinking that the focus on a number of GB may be misplaced. What matters is customer experience.

If 16GB results in a bad experience under iOS 9, Apple is going to take a lot of heat and lose customers.

Let's wait to see how this plays out. 1GB of RAM on the 6/6+ generated a lot of complaints here because of increased app reloading and poorer multitasking vs. even the iPhone 5 from 2012. 1GB RAM however is pretty good on a 32-but iPhone with lower res display. 16GB might be ok on the 6S… or it might be terrible if people discover that their pics and videos take up a lot more space than before due to camera changes. We just don't know yet.