This idiotism gets repeated over and over again.
It's not the size of a display that matters, it's the angle of view.
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No Bluray in new MBP
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It's not the size of a display that matters, it's the angle of view.
Hugely. I will not buy a computer now that dosen't support Blu Ray. We're WAAAAAAY past the point where that makes any sense if you like shows/movies.
That is incredibly lame. Lets see. Higher prices, no rental/resale market, MUCH lower resolution video/sound quality, no extras, worse selection...
And to date Apple has NEVER SOLD A MOVIE ONLINE. Not one. Zip, zero, zilch. If something requires activation, you ARE NOT BUYING IT.
Other than those "minor" issues, sure, Apple's store is just fine
As mentioned by many others, no, absolutely not. It's typically <$200 now, and that's for a slot loading drive in many of Dell's systems.
No, no, no, no, no, and no. 15" is no more a joke to watch Blu Ray on than it is to do anything else on. A larger screen would always be nice, but regardless... And no, you don't need an HDMI port (though an adapter would be nice), and you should be able to adapt these to HDMI easily enough anyway...although you'd have to do audio separately. Plenty of systems have shipped with Blu Ray and no HDMI. And the 9600GT is COMPLETELY adequate for accelerating Blu Ray. The integrated 9400 won't do as good of a job, but it's fine too (heck, plenty of systems ship with INTEL'S graphics and Blu Ray).
Nope, because Dell ships systems with slot loading Blu Ray drives that add $200 or less, and has been for months and months.
YES! Couldn't say it better! What, I have to buy and rent separate movies because I can't run them on my laptop?
Yes, and there are also more notebooks with integrated graphics than real GPUs. That's not a compelling argument for me to rush out and buy some low end junk.
And the price difference between new DVDs and Blu Rays isn't as big as you're making it out to be typically, and even if it were, we should still have that option. Geez, Blu Ray is now cheaper than DVD prices were when I was buying tons of shows on DVD.
Even better question:
where are mini-displayport-to-standard-displayport adapters and how many hundreds they will cost?
As laptops go it's absolutely pointless and as a format really, there isn't much need for it anymore baring HD movies in the front room.
Storage? It's old hat, who really stores stuff on DVD's anymore? I haven't burned a disc in years or been given one. You can buy a 200GB external drive thats smaller than the iphone for moving stuff. The people who would actually use it are a small minority of potential buyers.
It would eat battery life and drive the price up and maybe the other specs' down.
Everything will be digital soon enough, blue-ray seems to be a semi stop gap that Sony haven't took advantage of and company's like Apple and Microsoft are stalling it with great download services.
Storage? It's old hat, who really stores stuff on DVD's anymore? I haven't burned a disc in years or been given one. You can buy a 200GB external drive thats smaller than the iphone for moving stuff. The people who would actually use it are a small minority of potential buyers.
It would eat battery life and drive the price up and maybe the other specs' down.
Everything will be digital soon enough, blue-ray seems to be a semi stop gap that Sony haven't took advantage of and company's like Apple and Microsoft are stalling it with great download services.
Not much need...unless, you know, you LIKE TV AND MOVIES. Which many people do
Yeah! Who likes TV or movies? Those are such strange things. I sure don't! I only sip lattes as I read books published prior to 1860!
How would it manage to do either of those things? If you're not playing a movie, it's not sapping battery life. If you make it optional, it's not adding to the price (and for the prices Apple charges they could give you multiple Blu Ray drives if they wanted to).
Uh...Blu Ray is digital. If you're talking about these cheesy download services, lets HOPE they never take off in their current form.
Higher prices, no rental/resale market, MUCH lower resolution video/sound quality, no extras, worse selection...
And to date Apple has NEVER SOLD A MOVIE ONLINE. Not one. Zip, zero, zilch. If something requires activation, you ARE NOT BUYING IT.
Sure, Blu Ray is a "stop gap" in the way DVD is...although if anything it'll probably be with us as DVD could have been on the market for 50 years, had it been possible to make it when color TVs first came out. As it is, we won't really need a replacement for Blu Ray until ATSC gets replaced, and that hopefully won't be for decades, if not longer.
I think they're usually behind the times. They were slow with DVD. Slow with CD-RW, etc. This dosen't really surprise me that they're so far behind, other than that they're actually an early supporter of the format, so I hoped that meant they were on the ball and would be one of the first (instead of dead last) out of the gate.
Honestly a company in 2008 that dosen't sell Blu Ray equipped computers at ALL? Not so hot...
Did they? I thought the were a bit behind on that, but I might not be remembering right. I know they put DVD-RAM drives in early, but then...
And they were way behind on DVD and CD-RW, and then combo drives, and they STILL sell a system without DVD+/-RW...which at this point borders on some kind of art
And they were way behind on DVD and CD-RW, and then combo drives, and they STILL sell a system without DVD+/-RW...which at this point borders on some kind of art
733MHz G4 in 2001 was one of the first which had dvd-r and for a long time apple branded dvd-r disks were the cheapest.
Not even close, Plenty of PC laptops available with Blu-ray for around $1200-$1300. The problem is they are all 12.5mm drives that will not fit in Apple's thin laptops (only the current 17" uses a 12.5mm drive).
Just look at how expensive a replacement Superdrive is for the MB or 15" MBP compared to a MBP 17.
Until a reasonably priced 9.5mm slot-load Blu-ray is available, Apple will (most likely) not offer the option.
Cheers,
hmmm...something just came to mind.
To play blu-ray movies, doesn't the display need to be able to handle HDCP?
To play blu-ray movies, doesn't the display need to be able to handle HDCP?
a good argument and i Phil Schiller used this as an arguement aswell but some countries like mine dont have unlimited downloads and so downloading an HD movie chugs thru our download limits.
I would buy a macbook pro when it has:
1.HD 1080p screen (1920x1080)
2.blu-ray
3.quad-core cpu
4.ability to fully run games like crysis at native resolution and highest settings at 50fps or higher = similar performance as HD4850 on desktop
5.cheaper SSD upgrade
6.new OS
This is what I think is good value of money. How long do I have to wait?
1.HD 1080p screen (1920x1080)
2.blu-ray
3.quad-core cpu
4.ability to fully run games like crysis at native resolution and highest settings at 50fps or higher = similar performance as HD4850 on desktop
5.cheaper SSD upgrade
6.new OS
This is what I think is good value of money. How long do I have to wait?
i was under the impression that there were NO 9.5mm slot loading BluRay drives available on the market.....
i was under the impression that there were NO 9.5mm slot loading BluRay drives available on the market.....
I know there is a 12.7mm version and I was under the impression that a 9.5mm version was also available. The problem right now is quality vs. price. The slot loading Blu-ray drives are very expensive and very slow at the moment. That doesn't really help them all that much.
toshiba has announced one, as has panasonic and sony.. i am yet to see/find any proof that they are actually available.
i know your being a smart arse, but im gonna bite anyway..
1. hope you have very thick glasses.
2. hope you like your 17" MBP's
3. hope you have lots of money
4. goodluck with that..
5. meh
6. wait till next year!
Maybe apple should go around hdcp in OS.
Just add bd drive to laptop or sell external one and put hdmi output to it.
Then add hdmi input to standalone & computers' displays.
In laptops this cabling could be internal.
It would be also very nice to be able to use iMac's screen with stb/bd-player/ps3...
Just add bd drive to laptop or sell external one and put hdmi output to it.
Then add hdmi input to standalone & computers' displays.
In laptops this cabling could be internal.
It would be also very nice to be able to use iMac's screen with stb/bd-player/ps3...
You don't need HDCP on the monitor if it's built into the laptop. So long as the graphics card is HDCP-compliant, it'll play just fine. I do this with my MBP on occasion (although I have to boot from Win XP and use my external BR-ROM drive to do it). I can also play to my Samsung 40" LCD HDTV, too, but only if I turn off my MBP display in Win XP.
Years and years for a lot of those. You can get FAIRLY close right now with an upcoming (if it hasn't already launched) HP laptop, and one Dell Precision has most of that except I think no Blu Ray built in (BOO!) and there is no mobile equivalent to the 4850, though the 9800GTX is still awesome.